Taito Legends game list (again, sorry)

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:02 pm

Sorry for another Taito collection thread but I'm getting a bit confused now over the different line ups there is.

Is there a definitive list of what games are going on the compilation?

Play.com has this list for Taito Legends on the PS2, XBOX and PC which is very different to the other lists i've seen.

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr ... tle=615788

Full List of Games
Space Invaders
Phoenix
Space Invaders Part II
Colony 7
Electric YoYo
Jungle Hunt
Zoo Keeper
Elevator Action
Great Swordsman
Sea Fighter Poseidon
Bubble Bobble
Gladiator
Scramble Formation
Exzisus
Plump Pop
Operation Wolf
Rainbow Islands
Rastan
Super Qix
New Zealand Story
Operation Thunderbolt
Battle Shark
Continental Circus
Plotting (AKA Flipull)
Volfied
Aqua Jack
Ninja Kids
Space Gun
ThunderFox
Double Axle
Dungeon Magic
Rayforce
Tube It
Bubble Symphony
Darius Gaiden
Pop N Pop

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:26 pm

My guess is that the UK release is different from the Japanese one, which is titled Taito Memories. Gamespot has reproduced Famitsu's list for Memories:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tait ... 23010.html

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:31 pm

I am getting both the US and JP releases because both of those lists are great. I wonder if they will include light gun support for Operation Wolf?

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:51 pm

Brian wrote:I am getting both the US and JP releases because both of those lists are great. I wonder if they will include light gun support for Operation Wolf?

I hope so, but is the Guncon 2 designed for rapid fire? The zapper isn't. The NES Operation Wolf actually plays better with a pad than with a zapper.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:07 pm

Meh, it's neat the UK release has a few like Rainbow Islands but that will probably be on the memories vol 2 anyways.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:14 pm

Hmmm, no Metal Black but it does have Rayforce.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:45 pm

I just can't understand for the life of me WHY Taito would leave out BOTH Arkanoid games. They were VERY popular over here in the states; the first one got a NES port, and even a friggin' Mac Plus port, and was ported to multiple home computers, as was the second one.

Honestly, IMO, this is like Cave doing a compilation and leaving out DonPachi or DoDonPachi.

At any rate, the PC Engine port of Operation Wolf also plays fine with the D-Pad, so I wouldn't worry about light-gun support.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:19 pm

Heh, I had a feeling that PuLiRuLa wouldn't make it beyond the Japan release.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:04 pm

man i have to order both of those packs. so many games i want to play. i'll feel kind of sucky not springing on the us release though. but i am sure pulirula and a handful of others will dull the pain.

yes, i am a bastard.

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:10 pm

Anyone know if a US PS2 release is confirmed? Better be..

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:05 pm

LoneSage wrote:Anyone know if a US PS2 release is confirmed? Better be..

It's still "TBA 2005". Empire Interactive is supposedly bringing over a volume to the US, but there's no final release date, or game list.

In any case, I'm getting a region-modded Saturn, and with all the Saturn shmups on the Japanese volumes, this collection isn't worth owning if you have a Saturn, IMO. And a lot of the other games are playable on other formats.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:35 pm

dave4shmups wrote: In any case, I'm getting a region-modded Saturn, and with all the Saturn shmups on the Japanese volumes, this collection isn't worth owning if you have a Saturn, IMO. And a lot of the other games are playable on other formats.

You mean like buying them once vs. many separately and for more cash?

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:56 pm

BrianC wrote:
Brian wrote:I am getting both the US and JP releases because both of those lists are great. I wonder if they will include light gun support for Operation Wolf?
I hope so, but is the Guncon 2 designed for rapid fire? The zapper isn't. The NES Operation Wolf actually plays better with a pad than with a zapper.

Guncon 2 is definitely designed for rapid fire. In Crisis Zone and Time Crisis 3, you use a fullauto machine gun.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:49 am

Rob wrote:
dave4shmups wrote: In any case, I'm getting a region-modded Saturn, and with all the Saturn shmups on the Japanese volumes, this collection isn't worth owning if you have a Saturn, IMO. And a lot of the other games are playable on other formats.
You mean like buying them once vs. many separately and for more cash?

Well, for people like me that are getting or have a Saturn, yeah it does make more sense, IMO. And not all of these games are THAT expensive; Darius Gaiden is ridiculously cheap.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:49 am

I lifted the following lists from Play-Asia:

Taito Memories Vol. 1 contains the following classical games on one compilation:
Elevator Action Returns
Space Invader Color
Darius Gaiden
Lunar Rescue
Alpine Ski
The Fairyland Story
KiKi KaiKai
Bubble Bobble
Rastan Saga
Kuri Kinton
Syvalion
Jigoku Meguri
Cameltry
Don Doko Don
Flipull
Kyuukyoku Harikiri Koshien
Majestic Twelve - The Space Invaders Part IV
Runark
Pulirura
Metal Black
Grid Seeker: Project Storm Hammer
Space Invader DX
Light Bringer
Cleopatra Fortune
Puchi Carat

Vol. 2 contains the following games:
Space Invader
Space Invader Part 2
Crazy Balloon
Balloon Bomber
Qix
Wild Western
Elevator Action
Chack'n Pop
Front Line
Legend of Kage
The New Zealand Story
Rastan Saga IIRaimais
Insector X
Cadash
Violence Fight
Gun Frontier
Hat Trick Hero
Mizubaku Daibouken
Arabian Magic
Gekirindan
Puzzle Bobble 2
Raystorm
G-Darius

BTW, which of these are shmups? I know the following are:
G-Darius
Space Invaders (various versions)
Raystorm
Gekirindan
Metal Black
Darius Gaiden

Am I overlooking something?

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:01 am

Well, you did miss Gun Frontier. And Elevator Action Returns is also available on the Saturn.

But I see your point from those lists; these compilations really do look like they're worth owning-so I retract my previous statment that they are not, if you're a Saturn owner.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:44 am

BulletMagnet wrote:Heh, I had a feeling that PuLiRuLa wouldn't make it beyond the Japan release.

No big loss imho.

I had the PS1 version for a little while, and while the setting was unique, I didn't like the game one bit.

PepsimanVsJoe · Post by **PepsimanVsJoe** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:11 am

Glad Dungeon Magic is there.
Awesome Isometric Beatemup.

PuliRula is freaking weird as heck but it sucks.
http://www.angelfire.com/ri/returns/pulirula.html

The UK(US?) release has Darius Gaiden, Bubble Symphony, Ninja Kids, Space Gun, Dungeon Magic, Gladiator, and Rayforce among many others so it IMO is a steal for whatever price it goes for.

Of course I'll still hold onto my Saturn releases of Darius Gaiden(I can't 1CC the arcade version) and Bubble Symphony(It costs over $45! But hey there's a few Saturn exclusive extras)

There needs to be some release dates announced post haste..If this can get to the US before 2006 I'll be a happy camper(Though I'd be happy regardless of when it came out)..nevermind I'm rambling.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:48 pm

dungeon magic looks great:

also, prof was asking.

gun frontier
grid-seeker
insector x
----are what i recognize

and space invaders, DX, and magestic twelve if you'd like to include

and whats Kyuukyoku Harikiri Koshien?

velocity7 · Post by **velocity7** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:17 pm

Why does Taito Legends have Rayforce but not Taito Memories vol. 1? o_O

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:03 pm

captain ahar wrote:dungeon magic looks great:

also, prof was asking.

gun frontier
grid-seeker
insector x
----are what i recognize

and space invaders, DX, and magestic twelve if you'd like to include

and whats Kyuukyoku Harikiri Koshien?

Thanks, Captain. This is looking more and more like a must-have each day. How can they get all of this on one disc?

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:06 pm

Doesn't anyone else think these very different game lists for regions is quite strange? If they're doing something other than running emus on the PS2 then why go to all the trouble of coding games and then excluding them. Until we see the actual releases I'm *very* hesitant to believe all these varying lists

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:35 am

I'd figure they'd vary the releases by region since not all the games from one collection ever made it to another (and thus they wouldn't be recognized), or even if they did they wouldn't be well-received by most of the audience. That's why on the previous Taito Collections thread (as well as here) I singled out PuLiRuLa (though other games are obviously in the same boat), since I can only imagine what kind of general reaction a whacked-out game like that would get in the West. I wouldn't doubt that there might be some variation between the Europe and NA releases of this, though probably not as drastic as the differences between Japan's and Europe's.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:58 am

i think...oh wait, i dont.

K-J N. · Post by **K-J N.** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:16 am

Well here are the boxarts for the two Japanese versions.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:14 pm

Bar81 wrote:Doesn't anyone else think these very different game lists for regions is quite strange? If they're doing something other than running emus on the PS2 then why go to all the trouble of coding games and then excluding them. Until we see the actual releases I'm *very* hesitant to believe all these varying lists

another consideration is that all regions will probably not get both collections. maybe they are just editing down the two comps into one for American (or Euro, not sure of the market there) submission.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:52 pm

captain ahar wrote:
Bar81 wrote:Doesn't anyone else think these very different game lists for regions is quite strange? If they're doing something other than running emus on the PS2 then why go to all the trouble of coding games and then excluding them. Until we see the actual releases I'm *very* hesitant to believe all these varying lists
another consideration is that all regions will probably not get both collections. maybe they are just editing down the two comps into one for American (or Euro, not sure of the market there) submission.

My guess is that they will start with one vol. in the US (and UK), just as Midway did. When the Midway compilation sold well, they came out with a second volume. Taito probably has the same plan in the US. They are likely more confident that the volumes will sell sufficiently well in Japan from the start.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:50 pm

Good point; they may well release additional volumes here if the first one does well.

I still can't believe that Taito left out BOTH Arkanoid games. I was on the Ultracade website the other day, and they're both on that format, so why leave them out of these collections? It just makes no sense, IMO.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:47 pm

What good Arkanoid be without the spinner control? I have Arkanoid 2000R and it plays okay with the PSX mouse, but without the spinner it is just not the same.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:26 pm

Well the SNES one plays fine with the SNES controller, IMO.

But you're right; I'd probably be better off getting a NES with the game and the paddle controller-plus, 2 came out on the Famicom!

At any rate, I'm happy that they're including Gladiator-that is one awesome Rastan arcade game!

I've played it on MAME and it rocks!

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Taito Legends game list (again, sorry)

Taito Legends game list (again, sorry)

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