[X360] Mushihime-sama Futari Ver. 1.5 is region free

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CaptainRansom wrote:So hopefully I'm reading all of this right:

If I ordered the LE from NCSX, it should have the DLC card, yes? I pre-ordered on 10/1 and got my shipping confirmation today.
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What other places are confirmed to have the DLC cards? Videogameimports? Any others?
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When i play the level 4 boss the audio volume gets very low. I would say it happens every now and then. Is this a glitch in the game? Has anyone noticed this? Thanks
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Special World wrote:So you can in fact redeem the code on a US account?
Yes. I did.
Special World wrote:And what about Black Label? [...] Or do these things apply themselves to all accounts as long as you have the same 360?
You can play anything from any account as long as it's on the same console.

...Things get slightly more complicated if you move to a different console, but you can leap that hurdle when you get to it.
lawnspic wrote:When i play the level 4 boss the audio volume gets very low. I would say it happens every now and then. Is this a glitch in the game? Has anyone noticed this?
I thought it might have just been my ears, but since it's happened to somebody else...
It was on the final boss for me though, and has only happened once.
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Yeah, it only happens to me on the 4th boss, strange. Maybe a patch in the future though its no that big of a deal.
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Hrm, maybe I should have redeemed the DLC on my US account rather than my JP account... oh well, only time it'll matter is if my JP 360 dies. *knockknockKNOCK*
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Ah, so we've confirmed that it works just fine with a US account? Good! Guess that means I don't have to go make a Japanese one then, whew! XD

I hope I get the DLC card. Actually, I just hope I get my game soon.

BTW, has anyone made any videos of Novice Ultra yet? Just curious, that's all. Although first level of general Ultra mode looks insane. I seriously can't do that. XD

This is because my Japanese friend has said I should check that one out once I get my game and... I'm curious! What the heck would a "Novice Ultra" mode even look like?! Sounds like a conflict of meaning?
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Zaarock wrote:nZero: what exactly lowers and raises the overall counter in arrange mode? I was trying to get the 100,000 overall counter achievement, seemed pretty possible in Stage 3 Ultra Arrange but the counter went down every once in a while without me realizing why.
The main counter? Collecting items raises it; dying, bombing, or being at a boss causes it to lower. Basically if you can get fever mode 2 or 3 times and let stuff live long enough to reflect everything it can throw at you in stage 3 or 4 without dying (or bombing for purposes other than character counter recharge) then you'll probably have over 100,000 on the big counter. The subcounter will drop whenever you kill stuff with A shot but that's not the one you have to worry about for the achievement anyway.
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BrightSuzaku wrote:This is because my Japanese friend has said I should check that one out once I get my game and... I'm curious! What the heck would a "Novice Ultra" mode even look like?! Sounds like a conflict of meaning?
Novice in general gives you lesser bullet amount+density along with autobomb. That's the gist of it anyway.
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Black Label DLC - 1200 MS points
Black Label + 1.01 DLC - 1400 MS points

Come on Cave, make it happen!
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this game is awesome, it is great to finally be able to play a recent Cave vert..!

to add to the stats, i got the 2nd edition also despite pre-ordering from Play-Asia far in advance and it shipping in the first batch, kind of lame but whatever, I don't think I'm using them as a first choice anymore.

btw this game is awesome.
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Special World wrote:So you can in fact redeem the code on a US account?

And what about Black Label? If I decided I wanted it but then had 1.01 on my US account, would I then have to split it between accounts? Or do these things apply themselves to all accounts as long as you have the same 360?
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Possible inability to use the Xbox DRM transfer tool after a hardware failure, with an overseas account, could become a problem years down the line, for example. Or increased IP-lock restrictions on free overseas marketplace content, is another possible worst-case DRM future. Or your overseas account could get banned by Microsoft (I've read from some people that this has happened, but I don't know the circumstances). It's also hard to realistically predict how Xbox Live DRM will evolve in the next couple of years, after Microsoft release the new Xbox.
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One question: Is all LE edtion come with the DLC card?

If this is true, it seems to be the best way to make sure you got the DLC card.
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Yes. All LE copies have the DLC card.
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lawnspic wrote:When i play the level 4 boss the audio volume gets very low. I would say it happens every now and then. Is this a glitch in the game? Has anyone noticed this? Thanks
This happened to me a few times on the last boss.
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What a monumental fuck-up. Make Cave aware of this and I'm sure there will be some form of recompense.

They listened to demands for region-free so maybe not all is lost.
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You guys are honestly going to complain to Cave about a mistake that play-asia made? That is how you want Cave to think of their fans, that they are little ungrateful itches? That's hilarious, but come on just enjoy the game and hope that 1.1 will be available as DLC. While your at it why don't you complain about the Ketsui delay and DOJBLEX bugs... 1.1 is such a small thing when you look at the whole package, we are lucky these games exist in the first place.

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I think they're talking about the audio glitch...
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Mine shipped from P-A finally. I doubt I'll be getting the DLC card though. But since it's pretty much confirmed that it's an unlock key, I don't really care. Even if they offer it for purchase on the XBL Marketplace I won't buy it. I will not encourage the sale of unlock keys.
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When you are on the Maniac Settings Screen press A while on "Layout Setting" or "Picture Setting", you can edit the individual options for each preset. There are 2 different menu's, one for the layout and one for the picture, you can turn the filter off on the Picture Setting menu.
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Cuilan wrote:Mine shipped from P-A finally. I doubt I'll be getting the DLC card though. But since it's pretty much confirmed that it's an unlock key, I don't really care. Even if they offer it for purchase on the XBL Marketplace I won't buy it. I will not encourage the sale of unlock keys.
Yeah you'll just encourage... not getting content.

Truly a masterwork of logic you're running with, here.

I'm pretty sure you supported unlock keys by buying the game, dude.
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On the YesAsia front, I just received this mail:
Thank you for shopping with YesAsia.com!

With reference to the following item 'Mushihime-sama Futari Ver1.5 (First Press Limited Edition) (Japan Version)' in your order [snip!], the expected ship out date has been revised to Dec/07/2009.

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding and support.
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My casual initial impressions of this wonderful shmup release...

As a player that usually tries to play shmups for survival not score, and who likes the first Mushi a lot, this game feels like "more of the same" in the best possible way. The visual quality of this port is really beautiful, which allows the charming personality of the art/setting to come through to its full extent. The PS2 port of the original Mushi feels so very muted and muffled by comparison to this, although the core game is still great fun in both cases (to put things in perspective, I will still definitely go back to the original PS2 Mushi from time to time, even though I own this sequel).

Ultra Mode doesn't seem playable by 99.9% of the population, feels even more hopeless than Ultra on the original Mushi. Maniac Mode and its bullet storms are exactly what I expected from a new Cave game, almost stereotypically so, should be a real crowd pleaser for Cave's biggest fans. Personally the Original Mode is closer to my favorite kinds of games, and I appreciate Cave including that mode, which I am really enjoying so far (first attempt reached stage 3, difficulty curve seems more fair). The visibility of bullets in this port is really excellent though, so I might use this port to practice in Maniac Mode, to maybe try to improve my sad danmaku skills. There are nice extras too, like Cave providing a good variety of in-game background wallpaper artwork to choose from, and several of them look quite colorful and beautiful on the HDTV.

As a 20GB 360 hard disk owner, who hates the noise of the console, I also appreciate the small install size to allow conveniently lowering the noise level down to be in line with XBLA games. Oh, and the PS2 arcade stick to 360 converter works great!
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Special World wrote:I'm pretty sure you supported unlock keys by buying the game, dude.
I'm pretty sure I bought it before I knew it was an unlock key, dude.

If it comes with the game, that's fine with me, since I'd basically be getting it for free. If Cave decides to give it away for free later on, that's fine too. But I refuse to pay for content that's already on the disk that I own.
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Ah, right.

It's late and I read your post wrong.

There was no need to get pissy.
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Special World wrote:Ah, right.

It's late and I read your post wrong.

There was no need to get pissy.
Ok then. Sorry about that.
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Seems like P-A got new stock as well.

My copy was supposed to ship on the 7th, shipped today. And I just ordered it last friday :)
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neojma wrote:You most certainly do not "own" the content on the disc. You own a physical disc, a plastic case, and some paper inserts and manuals. You also have a license to use the software code that is on the disc. Copyright law regarding software in the US, Europe, Japan, and most countries would agree.
If you want to get technical I bought a game not a license. And hopefully then also have the right to play what is on the disc? Why should costumers have to care about how software licenses work? It feels shady and could potentially stop my future purchases of such games.

If they wanted to nullify discbased distribution they could have gone the route of releasing as a downloadable game.
What happens when your 360 dies? Can you redownload the DLC to a new console?

I can see how the extra content could boost the number of preorders but that's a rather weak argument.

And there is no reason it should be like this. If they add that DLC to other regions XBLA for free or not, problem solved.
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Inkvisitor wrote:If you want to get technical I bought a game not a license. And hopefully then also have the right to play what is on the disc? Why should costumers have to care about how software licenses work? It feels shady and could potentially stop my future purchases of such games.
Unfortunately, the way things are going now, it works exactly like that: you are buying a license to play a game, but not buying the actual game or any of its contents (both are still the property of its publisher, and you can't do anything else with them that you aren't explicitly allowed to); the disc is merely a medium that goes together with it. It feels shady because it is shady: you think you're buying a game, but de jure, you aren't. Yeah, of course it sucks, but otherwise what is known as piracy would be legal enough to rob the developers/publishers of all profit. And as long as both of them remain private businesses not sponsored by third parties (or government) in ~95% of cases, it's going to remain that way.
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Inkvisitor wrote: If they wanted to nullify discbased distribution they could have gone the route of releasing as a downloadable game.
What happens when your 360 dies? Can you redownload the DLC to a new console?

See, the funny thing is where you said 'when your 360 dies' and not 'if your 360 dies'. It's pretty much a given that 360s are going to fuck up early in their lifetime, and I can personally vouch for this, having to send in one of mine nine fucking times for repairs/replacement. I'm almost unwilling to use my DLC card right away once I get it, and wait for my current 360 to fuck up and I get it repaired or replaced, and then use it. I'm already getting disc read errors with the one I'm using right now, and I haven't even had it for more than a couple months-- not to mention I've hardly even played the thing. This is why DLC sucks and it always will, especially in the case of the 360. Electronics in general are prone to mess up eventually, and all of the stuff you downloaded will be gone. I will always support hard copies of games over intangible DLC.
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