Cho Ren Sha 68K - won't run full speed on my laptop

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Cho Ren Sha 68K - won't run full speed on my laptop

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I'm using a Compaq Presario CQ50z-100, and ever since I got it, I've been unable to play a round of Cho Ren Sha 68K. It works, but it only runs at a fraction of its speed, which for me translates to "fuck this, I'm not playing it."

At first I thought it was just the OS it shipped with (Vista, aka VistASS). Then I downgraded to XP, and that still didn't change a thing.

Is there any way to get CRS to run at 100% on this laptop, or will I never see that again until I get a new laptop?

If it helps, here's the specs of my laptop (aka, please permaban me because my laptop, by everyone's stingy PC standards, is criminally horrible):
- Windows XP Pro SP3 (32-bit, I believe)
- AMS Sempron S1-40, 2 GHz
- 896 MB of RAM
- NVidia GeForce 8200M G
-- Driver version: 185.85
-- Stream processors: 8
-- Graphics clock: 400 MHz
-- Processor clock: 800 MHz
-- Memory clock: 675 MHz (1350 MHz data rate)
-- Memory interface: 64-bit
-- Memory: 512 MB
-- Video BIOS version: 62.77.2F.00.07
-- IRQ: 22
-- Bus: FPCI
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VistASS.

Have you tried compatability mode?
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Yes, and that was as effective as shouting at my laptop.

Oh! And mods, I was gonna delete this thread and remake it in Hardware. If it belongs there, just move this thread.
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I personally don't think it does, exactly
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Cho Ren Sha 68K is a finicky program, sound tears even on XP for me.
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Just get an X68k emulator and get X68k version - works wonders :wink:
I didn't even know there was a windows version :oops:
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CRS68K windows version works fine on a Pentium 3 500Mhz under win2k. I just tried it under win7rc on my fast PC and it won't run smoothly though (it doesn't run slow, but it hiccups regularly). Looks like an OS issue. I could never get the game to work under the emulator, the controls were always messed up for some reason.
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Can someone please link to a 68K emulator that's easy to setup?
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Ed Oscuro wrote:Cho Ren Sha 68K is a finicky program, sound tears even on XP for me.
Sound tearing happens for me too on Win7rc (and Vista), I just run it in win95 compatibility mode and it's fixed.
ED-057 wrote:CRS68K windows version works fine on a Pentium 3 500Mhz under win2k. I just tried it under win7rc on my fast PC and it won't run smoothly though (it doesn't run slow, but it hiccups regularly). Looks like an OS issue. I could never get the game to work under the emulator, the controls were always messed up for some reason.
Works just fine on win7rc for me. I've played this on 4 different computers and 4 different OS and I've never had any issues with this game besides the sound tearing.
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emphatic wrote:Can someone please link to a 68K emulator that's easy to setup?
http://www.geocities.jp/winx68khighspeed/
I recommend 5th link from top - It's the English version. Don't forget the boot/bios roms; google is your friend :wink:
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This happens on a lot of newer machines. I swear it's the graphics card, probably something to do with the DirectX 5-era calls Cho Ren Sha is using for it's drawing...

But yeah, an x68k emu is the way to go here. Also, try running it on Linux in Wine.
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A little argument I just got into led me to say this:

It's not me running shit in the background. The way my computer is right now, if I were to plug it in and start up any Touhou game or any emulator, it will run fine. Closing every other process will not make CRS run any faster.
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i would of suggested using task manager to run the game using only 1 processor but since u r not using a multi core processor it wont apply.

i read on a website that there is a option in the bios which fixes slow framerates when the PC has enough horsepower to run games at normal speed but ive lost the link but u could try asking a tech forum which command it is. Other then that all i can guess at is vsynch
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ZOM wrote:
emphatic wrote:Can someone please link to a 68K emulator that's easy to setup?
http://www.geocities.jp/winx68khighspeed/
I recommend 5th link from top - It's the English version. Don't forget the boot/bios roms; google is your friend :wink:
Actually they're up at the game's website but I know nothing about X68, at least not enough to get them to work.
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Laptops are always a pain in the ass. Try disabling any hardware power saving options (Cool'n'Quiet on AMD processors) in the BIOS and see if that helps.
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lgb wrote:
ZOM wrote:
emphatic wrote:Can someone please link to a 68K emulator that's easy to setup?
http://www.geocities.jp/winx68khighspeed/
I recommend 5th link from top - It's the English version. Don't forget the boot/bios roms; google is your friend :wink:
Actually they're up at the game's website but I know nothing about X68, at least not enough to get them to work.
You just need to drop boot.rom, ipl_cg.dat, iplrom.dat and cgrom.dat into the same folder where winx68khighspeed resides. IIRC you don't even need a font map.
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Btw. is there a tate option?
It seems you can configure the keys to rotate by 90°. But I haven't figured out how to rotate the screen by 90°. Anyone knows? Is it possible to configure the scan lines, like 100%,50%...
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I tried the X68K version. Not too bad, though I hate how it runs at 55 FPS instead of the full 60.

I don't remember how to clear stage 2-0. (My best is like 8 mil, set roughly 2,000 years ago.)
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THE wrote:Btw. is there a tate option?
It seems you can configure the keys to rotate by 90°. But I haven't figured out how to rotate the screen by 90°. Anyone knows? Is it possible to configure the scan lines, like 100%,50%...
CRS68K is a vertizontal game. I don't see why you'd want a tate option... :?
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Magic Knight wrote:
THE wrote:Btw. is there a tate option?
There is on the X68000 version at least:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... lit=rensha
This ONLY works for X68000, right? Because I tried those settins in the win version and it did not work.
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Danbo Daxter wrote:
THE wrote:Btw. is there a tate option?
It seems you can configure the keys to rotate by 90°. But I haven't figured out how to rotate the screen by 90°. Anyone knows? Is it possible to configure the scan lines, like 100%,50%...
CRS68K is a vertizontal game. I don't see why you'd want a tate option... :?
Because I want to play in on my Egret 3 in tate, I bought the E3 mostly for CRS68K and Raiden IV :oops:
And it's not a vertizontal, it was made with both tate and yoko in mind.

The x68k version runs fine with tate, thanks for the tip :o
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Does a working X68000 emulator for DOS exist? Preferably with command line rom loading.

Edit: Just remembered AdvanceMESS.
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