The Neo Geo Shooting Special

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just a test to see who's watched the video :lol:

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Post by Danny »

Thats one great video you did there kiken but do you mind me asking which programe you used to make the video? I've tryed fraps in the past but that requires the user to have fraps to be able to watch the video.

again thanks for the video!
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Danny wrote:Thats one great video you did there kiken but do you mind me asking which programe you used to make the video? I've tryed fraps in the past but that requires the user to have fraps to be able to watch the video.

again thanks for the video!
4 different programs were used to make this video.

The video capturing (from videotape to PC) was done in VirtualDub, as was the final compression of the video.
All video editing was done in Adobe Premier.
Captions, credits, masks and additional overlays/graphics were all done in Adobe Photoshop.
The commentary was recorded using SoundForge.
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Post by captain ahar »

kiken that was absolutely incredible.

i was interested in the neo some time ago, but between the cost and the lack of verts and abundance of horzie shooters (which my eyes had yet to open to) i dismissed it as too expensive and just not fun for the games.

i was wrong. some of that stuff looks incredibly kick ass and certainly worth a try. thank you very much for the video, it was great.
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Post by Twinbee »

finally got a chance to check this out, and that was a nice treat! Finally got to see games I've been curious about for a long time, but are well out of my price range.

(BONE-US! BONE-US! POWER-UP! BONE-US!) -tee hee hee :lol:

now I need to go find a video of Pulstar, or whatever it's called...
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Post by Platypus[gEc] »

Yep, great vid...

And to the people askin' what Kiken's problem with kids is... who do you think hold him up at the arcade... that's right... :wink:
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Dead link on the Mirror, sir.
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Post by Sundance »

Great Job..i enjoyed it very much.
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Post by incognoscente »

Thanks for the video, Kiken.

Good:
Intros. Not really necessary, but I like that they were included.
Explaining in which formats the game is available and which was being shown.
Length of each game's segment.
Seeing multiple stages from games.
Seeing Brikin'ger.
Seeing Twinkle Star Sprites being played by someone who knows what he's doing (that is, not me the one time I tried it :) ).
[Made me want to look into a couple of the games I hadn't played or had previously written off. I think that's a positive?]

Favorite comments:
Everything regarding Ghost Pilots. (5:51-9:10)
Ninja Commando - "Yes, we're going to need to attack dinosaurs, tanks, and ninja because those things go together and eventually they'll all merge into one." [There you go, Minzoku] (14:06)
Viewpoint - "Ahh, kids die! ..." (24:34)
Sonic Wings 2/Aerofighters 2 - "... take out all those kids, that's awesome." (51:14)
Pulstar - "...this pretty much is sort of a 'R-Type Shin Hyper Complete 2.0 For Matching Service'." [thanks, Skyline] (78:00)

I did not feel the lack of a script harmed the commentary overall.


Negative... ish: voice balancing, which has already been touched upon.


If there is another video for another system, I want more jokes about killing children. ;)
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Wow, you're pretty cruel with your reviews, dude. ASOII didn't look too bad to me, but it's your video so... :lol:
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Post by Thunder Force »

I watched this video today, nicely done. Although I'd have been less harsh on ASOII/Alpha Mission II, but hey that's just me. :) Surprised at how manic the Neo version of Strikers can get, I never did see that one in the arcades anywhere.
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Thunder Force wrote:Surprised at how manic the Neo version of Strikers can get, I never did see that one in the arcades anywhere.
I had the good(bad?) fortune of playing it on that difficulty at my school, before they took it away. That's why it was strange when I played it in Japan and it was so much easier, considering I thought the difficulty would be higher in Japanese arcades. Now I found another one at Pier 39 at Fishermen's Wharf that seemed to be at that difficulty level(Kiken's video).
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IlMrm wrote:
Thunder Force wrote:Surprised at how manic the Neo version of Strikers can get, I never did see that one in the arcades anywhere.
I had the good(bad?) fortune of playing it on that difficulty at my school, before they took it away. That's why it was strange when I played it in Japan and it was so much easier, considering I thought the difficulty would be higher in Japanese arcades. Now I found another one at Pier 39 at Fishermen's Wharf that seemed to be at that difficulty level(Kiken's video).
I was playing the game on default MVS settings, which must mean that some arcades turn down the difficulty to either 3 (Normal) or possibly 2 (Easy) stars.

I have noticed though that the default settings for Japan and The West are different.

One other thing, despite the fact that I do not personally like ASO II, I did give it an above-average score (6 out of 10) in the video. I just feel that it pales in comparison to much of what else the Neo has to offer (save Ghost Pilots).
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Post by Ceph »

Thanks a lot Kiken! Good job!! Your video returned some of those poor babies which had been collecting dust on my shelf for the last couple of years to their original purpose.

Also, Blazing Star looks so awesome!! Owning only a Neo Geo CD, I had never seen its greatness before. Why is there no CD version?! Will I need an AES just for this??? Why God, why?
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Ceph wrote:Also, Blazing Star looks so awesome!! Owning only a Neo Geo CD, I had never seen its greatness before. Why is there no CD version?! Will I need an AES just for this??? Why God, why?
6 of the 16 shmups shown in the video are available in cart format only:
Prehistoric Isle 2
Captain Tomaday
Strikers 1945 +
Operation Raganarok/Zed Blade
Andro Dunos
Blazing Star

After finally being able to sit down and compare the cart and CD versions of Pulstar side-by-side, I came to the conclusion that Blazing Star just would not have turned out well on the Neo CD. Pulstar does well enough, but even then, the Neo CD rev suffers from a lot more slow-down than the original cart. You also have to take into account that Blazing Star is 2-player simultaneous with a selection of 6 different ships. In the end, I just think it would have been too much info on a per-stage basis... and mid-level loading (like in Metal Slug 2) would not work at all in a shmup.

And you do have the choice of going MVS... which is certainly cheaper than AES.
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Post by fraggore »

just watched the vid, i enjoyed it very much, funny good reviews and all the top neogeo shmups out there. top job man.

be good it someone did a pc engine one. butt that would prob be 6 hours long lol
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Post by Danny »

Might have to buy some of these games now that I brought a MVS supergun yesterday lol. I think I'll go for Viewpoint or Blazing Star first although the first game I buying is the orignal King of the Monsters heh.
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What an awesome vid Kiken! I'm new to the Neo scene as well so this points me in the right direction. Thanks. :)
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Post by ArrogantBastard »

Man, these Neo-Geo games looks really cool. I wouldn't mind having a Neo-Geo MVS system, but there isn't that many vertical-scrolling games compared to horizontal-scrolling games that seems to be popular with the MVS system.

Great video, Kiken! Thanks for sharing with us. :)
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Post by bigbadboaz »

Kiken, I'm enjoying the video. Thanks again for taking the time to put it together.

There are actual gameplay (speed) differences between Pulstar CD and cart? That's the first time I've seen that confirmed. Damn. I have always enjoyed the CD version more due to the super-clean soundtrack, but never got good enough at the game to notice what you did. If I have to stick to the cart to get the full experience, that's disappointing.
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Hey playboy what do you think about Iron Clad-Birkinger, did you like it or was it average? everytime i look at the screenshot it reminds of Progear. Can you spread some of your opinions to us.
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Thanks for the video Kiken!! I'm sure you put a lot of time and effort on it. Found the post by pure luck and I must say I enjoyed watching it very much! Love my Neo Geo AES more now ;P Would be great to see similar videos of shmups on other platforms as well.

Great work!!!
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None of the .avi links work.

I keep getting 404 Not Found. :(
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Post by Zeether »

I could watch this vid over and over.

Great stuff.
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Master O wrote:None of the .avi links work.

I keep getting 404 Not Found. :(
The Archive.org link should work.
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Awesome movie thank you a lot :)
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Post by lilmanjs »

just finished watching this and your video helped me decide to get strikers 1945 plus for mame. great video.
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i just watched the whole thing last night and couldnt believe how fast the time flew by ! awesome video from start to finish , im certainly in support for more of these kiken , good job.
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Post by captpain »

Cool video, thanks for making it.



Might want to work on the mic placement next time cause your p's and t's blow up in the mic... personal pet peeve of mine, drives me crazy. (edit: and yeah of course people have already mentioned this :? whoops)

I'm not trying to be negative though, awesome video.
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Post by Shelcoof »

Why am I the only one who can't seem to download the video?
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