ever tried playing shmups on amphetamines?

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:18 pm

i'm playing dangun feveron at the mo, and this is a serious question. (pm for anonymity

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feel free to mention your experiences of playing under the influence of other narcotics as well

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:24 pm

I'd recommend sticking to caffeine.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:33 pm

i practically live on caffeine, nicotine, and sugar (not recommending this by the way

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Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:34 pm

jpj wrote:feel free to mention your experiences of playing under the influence of other narcotics as well

I vaguely recall there already being a thread like this...

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:35 pm

Either load up on Mountain Dew or Jolt Cola would do the trick, caffeine-wise. Gotta have that crucial edge for split-second decisions in those serious arcade/console shmup sessions. Or just by getting "into the Zone" state of mind (without any stimulants or narcotics whatsoever), no matter what the CPU throws your way, you can overcome any such obstacles with ease. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Plastic · Post by **Plastic** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:49 pm

Yeah, no.

But every time I start drinking (every night?) I think shmupping sounds like a blast. And I always fail.

dmzach · Post by **dmzach** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:45 am

I used to do heroin and I would play Gradius IV and play at least 2 loops in one sitting some times more, Hope this helps you out.

also, now when I play Battle Garegga I really feel the urge to smoke, so after a few credits I usually go out side and light up

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:04 am

Strangely enough, I play much better at Xevious while drunk... and I hate the goddamn game. For everything else, there's Bawls and frappuccino.

Master O · Post by **Master O** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:21 am

jpj wrote:i'm playing dangun feveron at the mo, and this is a serious question. (pm for anonymity )

feel free to mention your experiences of playing under the influence of other narcotics as well

Actually, you should try listening to anything by Sun Ra as loud as possible while playing shmups like Parodius or Space Bomber.

The music fits really well for some strange reason.

Nate · Post by **Nate** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:32 am

You don't mean "methamphetamines"...cause that would just be ridiculous.

I remember doing coke all night back in '97 - I came home and could absolutely not play Super Darius to save my life; so, I swore off the drug.

Now, it's booze and weed strictly.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:42 am

I find that stimulants ruin my fine motor control, all but nullifying the benefit of drug-enhanced reaction speed. Monster energy drinks have helped eliminate me from tournaments.

Performance enhancing drugs have a knack for appearing in just about any competition you can think of.

Back when I was foam fighting, there were a lot of fighters out there who'd puff on alupent before tournaments.

I also knew a guy who used to be really into FPSs and would take meth and valium in combination before big matches. He claimed that this was fairly common behavior.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:20 am

The only drug I use is life. Nothing else leaves you fucked up quite like it does.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:22 am

jpj your assistance is cordially requested in this topic since you seem to have knowledge about such things

Plastic · Post by **Plastic** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:32 am

howmuchkeefe wrote:I find that stimulants ruin my fine motor control, all but nullifying the benefit of drug-enhanced reaction speed. Monster energy drinks have helped eliminate me from tournaments.

Performance enhancing drugs have a knack for appearing in just about any competition you can think of.

Back when I was foam fighting, there were a lot of fighters out there who'd puff on alupent before tournaments.

I also knew a guy who used to be really into FPSs and would take meth and valium in combination before big matches. He claimed that this was fairly common behavior.

Sounds like an MSNBC special...

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:13 am

howmuchkeefe wrote:I find that stimulants ruin my fine motor control, all but nullifying the benefit of drug-enhanced reaction speed. Monster energy drinks have helped eliminate me from tournaments.

Performance enhancing drugs have a knack for appearing in just about any competition you can think of.

Back when I was foam fighting, there were a lot of fighters out there who'd puff on alupent before tournaments.

I also knew a guy who used to be really into FPSs and would take meth and valium in combination before big matches. He claimed that this was fairly common behavior.

long time no see

i guess i don't really understand enough about how stimulants affect you. how does it affect your motor skills? too twitchy/shaky?

PooshhMao · Post by **PooshhMao** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:32 am

Ampetamines make me want to walk around and talk about myself to people, not sit down and play a video game.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:49 am

jpj wrote:i guess i don't really understand enough about how stimulants affect you.

They overexcite your nervous system, effectively making the fuses that make reactions go off much shorter. That naturally enhances your reflexes, but also:
1) makes you react to more stimuli than usual (less dead zone that lets you ignore a short/insignificant enough stimulus), and
2) increases the risk of reaction misfires, thus making it much harder to micromanage the priorities of your movements on frame level.
Both make your movements unnecessarily twitchy and less precise in general.

Nate wrote:You don't mean "methamphetamines"...cause that would just be ridiculous.

The difference isn't that significant. Both are used for overclocking nervous system akin to large doses of caffeine. Meth just hits harder.

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:28 am

Beta blockers would be the drug of choice as it takes your stress away. I've never played any game while on drugs, so I can't say it's any good. Lots of red wine + a friend + any Metal Slug on free play is very fun though.

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:32 am

i play with a coffee on one side of the control panel ashtray and spliff on the other.. coffee helps you stay awake and alert and the ganj takes away the twitches and helps you relax and takes away the pain of repeating the first stages again and again

i think if i played on speedy stimulants i would have a heart attack. when i'm on a good run and the heart starts pumping and the adrenaline carrys you through crazy patterns you feel out of control as it is.

Aquas · Post by **Aquas** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:11 pm

Coffee on the side, please. Methamphetamines seem a bit too haphazard to be useful...

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:07 pm

emphatic wrote:Beta blockers would be the drug of choice as it takes your stress away.

but wouldn't the stress be a result of adrenaline, and am i right in thinking adrenaline helps because it raises your awareness levels...?

charlie chong wrote:i play with a coffee on one side of the control panel ashtray and spliff on the other..

is that why mark wants an egret 29?

what affect does caffeine have on stress levels?

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:51 pm

Plastic wrote:But every time I start drinking (every night?) I think shmupping sounds like a blast. And I always fail.

I got my high score in DDP DOJ while decently drunk on vodka. Cave games while drunk are a lot of fun

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:00 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:I vaguely recall there already being a thread like this...

Damn Skippy A
Damn Skippy B

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:03 pm

meth for gaming would be pointless...because you wouldnt be able to sit still or shut the fuck while you were on it

you cannot concentrate on meth...its like drug induced A.D.D....its becomes very difficult to keep a train of thought let alone focus on something like a game

used to do meth in the 90's when i raved...havent touched it in like a decade

wouldnt recommend it to anybody...its a dirty drug

its very easy to binge with meth...cuz you go a few days without sleep(or food) and then rather than crashing(like hitting a brick wall) you keep doing more to keep yourself up

and extended sleep deprivation is very bad for mental health and stability

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:20 pm

Last night I was playing Trigger Heart Excelica while coming up on MDMA.When it hit I just sat there completely mesmerized by the bullet patterns for a few seconds until I died and then I got up and gave everybody a hug and completely forgot about the game for the next six hours. Not exactly performance enhancing.

DJ Incompetent wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:I vaguely recall there already being a thread like this...
Damn Skippy A
Damn Skippy B

I know there have been at least two other threads on the subject...

jonny5 wrote:its very easy to binge with meth...cuz you go a few days without sleep(or food) and then rather than crashing(like hitting a brick wall) you keep doing more to keep yourself up

and extended sleep deprivation is very bad for mental health and stability

Not to be a dick or anything but that's completely your fault for not setting up boundaries for yourself and not exercising self control. It's good you don't do it anymore though.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:29 pm

^ i was waiting for the expert opinion...

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:47 pm

Ozymandiaz1260 wrote:
jonny5 wrote:its very easy to binge with meth...cuz you go a few days without sleep(or food) and then rather than crashing(like hitting a brick wall) you keep doing more to keep yourself up

and extended sleep deprivation is very bad for mental health and stability
Not to be a dick or anything but that's completely your fault for not setting up boundaries for yourself and not exercising self control. It's good you don't do it anymore though.

i was speaking more about people i saw using it heavily....i mainly just used it at parties and stuff.....

and aside from that moderation and self control do not really lend themselves well to physically addictive substances....the body usually wins over the mind...especially when you are fucked outta your gourd

personally i think doing physically addictive drugs and thinking you can control it mentally is asking for trouble....

put it this way....when doing mind altering drugs...well....your mind is altered...your mood....your thoughts.....you arent the same....thats a hard situation to control

Pulsewidth · Post by **Pulsewidth** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:27 pm

emphatic wrote:Beta blockers would be the drug of choice as it takes your stress away.

I've played STGs on propranolol, and as far as I can tell it slightly harms performance. Propranolol crosses the blood-brain barrier and impairs reaction time, which counteracts the benefits of smoother motor control. I'd be interested in trying a purely peripheral beta-blocker like atenolol.

The ideal drug for gaming is modafinil. Amphetamine level concentration with none of the twitchyness. I've played FPSs on modafinil a few times, with noticeable performance increase.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:56 pm

Amphetamins and coffeine are equally bad. Tried both and my performance went downhill pretty quickly. I recommend drinking tea. It doesn't help to concentrate better, but I get the feeling I can't beat Garegga's last boss without a tea that helps me to calm down. I usually get very nervous during the last stage of any shmup.

The only other thing I still want to try out someday is magic mushrooms + REZ. Anyone ever tried this combi?

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:03 pm

you do realize there is caffeine in tea plasmo

and depending on the type, it has more than some coffees beverages

i drink coffee while i play, but really only because i drink so much during the day that if i dont continue drinking when i get home i crash hard and fall asleep

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