2 gunsprees on the same day; wtf

D · Post by D » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:30 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/11/ala ... index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03 ... index.html
On the same day? wow! R.I.P. to these dead and thoughts go out to the families. Maybe fps's really are not good for people? I hate fps anyway, I could care less.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:45 pm

what the hell is wrong with german kids, man...?

it'll be masterpaul next

and why a school all the time? if they were bullied, or school made their life a misery, don't kill a bunch of random people

go after the ones who wronged you

it's a shame people don't have small hitboxes in real life

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:16 pm

Well...if this doesn't cause Obama/Holder to push for a firearms ban, or at least a reinstitution of the Brady Bill, I'll be very surprised.

I expect this weekend's gunshow to be big.

Khan · Post by **Khan** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:16 pm

a real tradegy I feel really bad for the families of lost loved ones

may those who died RIP.

Momijitsuki · Post by **Momijitsuki** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:20 pm

My frothing disdain for the human race in general increases.

Square King · Post by **Square King** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:21 pm

Momijitsuki wrote:My frothing disdain for the human race in general increases.

This.

Jonathan Ingram · Post by **Jonathan Ingram** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:23 pm

Gotta love capitalism. Something like that would never have happened in the good old DDR.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:35 pm

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:39 pm

D wrote:Maybe fps's really are not good for people?

It can't be that you really believe that bullshit ?

Momijitsuki · Post by **Momijitsuki** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:42 pm

PROMETHEUS wrote:
D wrote:Maybe fps's really are not good for people?
It can't be that you really believe that bullshit ?

Yeah, seriously. I'm not adverse to popping some jerk in the face on Halo 3 or Call of Duty, but I'd never ever ever ever aim a real gun at someone. There's a line between reality and fiction that gets a little more distorted every time someone links shootings to video games. I blame the person, not the game.

Post by **system11** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:48 pm

jpj wrote:
and why a school all the time? if they were bullied, or school made their life a misery

Kind of answered your own question - school is the worst place in the world for some people.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:54 pm

Can't speak for Germany, but on the home front I offer this.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:03 pm

I love how the 2nd amendment is used to attack the other original amendments and the fourteenth

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:47 pm

jpj wrote:what the hell is wrong with german kids, man...?

it'll be masterpaul next

masterpaul is a lucky bastard not to be in regular school anymore!
Weve got to keep an eye on him anyway, poor guy

antron · Post by **antron** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:48 pm

Jonathan Ingram wrote:Gotta love capitalism. Something like that would never have happened in the good old DDR.

yeah, people with real problems rarely commit things like this. suicide is for the rich.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:51 pm

Damocles wrote:Well...if this doesn't cause Obama/Holder to push for a firearms ban, or at least a reinstitution of the Brady Bill, I'll be very surprised.

I expect this weekend's gunshow to be big.

And so the number of normal people at gunshows continues to decrease... I expect the next gunshow to be filled to the brim with crazy fundamentalist kons, survivalists preaching about the upcoming apocalypse, neo-Bushites, and lots of those guys who think owning rocket launchers is a constitutional right(it's in there somewhere), and of course those guys trying to convince you that you need a 50 caliber sniper rifle or a pre-ban assault rifle to hunt squirrels.

Geez some people just want something for home protection when Mexico decides to invade...

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:08 pm

It's sad the number of people that think gun shows are like that. For the most part the worst you would encounter are wannabe gangstas attracted to any pistol small (or big) and shiny or felons. One can be identified when they pick up a pistol and hold it cockeye, the other when they ask "Is your stuff papered? (have to be called in to the FBI before sale)...which most guns are.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:15 pm

Damocles wrote:It's sad the number of people that think gun shows are like that. For the most part the worst you would encounter are wannabe gangstas attracted to any pistol small (or big) and shiny or felons. One can be identified when they pick up a pistol and hold it cockeye, the other when they ask "Is your stuff papered? (have to be called in to the FBI before sale)...which most guns are.

I've been to gunshows. They have always attracted the above mentioned types. However, it seems that ever since Obama has been elected, the number of crazies at gun shows has only gone up. Of course this could be because I live in Texas, gun lover capital of the world.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:21 pm

Gun owners are very, very afraid. They have a long history with Emanuel, Pelosi, and Holder. Add in Clinton and all of their cronies and it's a sure-fire thing there will be more restrictions. As such, gun shows as of late have been packed, and virtually everything is on back-order. There is high demand for everything before the bans start coming.

ave · Post by **ave** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:23 pm

jpj wrote:if they were bullied, or school made their life a misery, don't kill a bunch of random people go after the ones who wronged you

I bet they tried to. But if people are bullied everyone becomes an enemy, not just the initiators. I guess that's why those people just ran amok, to show who's the boss after years of humiliation.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:42 pm

Damocles wrote:SOME gun owners are very, very afraid. The crazy gun owning Kons have a long history with Emanuel, Pelosi, and Holder. Add in Clinton and all of their cronies and it's a sure-fire thing there will be more restrictions. As such, gun shows as of late have been packed, and virtually everything is on back-order. There is high demand for particular firearms before the bans start coming.

Fixed it for you. I'm tired of gun owners being labeled with this huge ass stroke of the brush. Not all gun owners are hardcore crazy Kons. I'd even say most of them understand that there are many weapons that don't belong in the hands of the general public. Then you have the "others." These guys are small sect of gun owners but yet they are the ones that get on fox news. They are the ones that get interviewed whenever the news orgs need a sound bite. They know they are the minority too. So the best they can do it whip up this anti-obama conspiracy bullshit that he's out to "take hurr guns."

It's really fuckin sad because these loonies are responsible for the fast and loose nature of Texas gun shows. Whenever the gov tries to regulate, these idiots start the whine train until the gov backs off. The result is that the majority of firearms used by the Mexican drug cartels come from Texas gunshows. I hope these crazies aren't just masturbating to their gun magazines because if Mexico collapses, they're going to have to actually use a gun.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:06 pm

The n00b wrote:
Damocles wrote:SOME gun owners are very, very afraid. The crazy gun owning Kons have a long history with Emanuel, Pelosi, and Holder. Add in Clinton and all of their cronies and it's a sure-fire thing there will be more restrictions. As such, gun shows as of late have been packed, and virtually everything is on back-order. There is high demand for particular firearms before the bans start coming.

Fixed it for you. I'm tired of gun owners being labeled with this huge ass stroke of the brush. Not all gun owners are hardcore crazy Kons. I'd even say most of them understand that there are many weapons that don't belong in the hands of the general public. Then you have the "others." These guys are small sect of gun owners but yet they are the ones that get on fox news. They are the ones that get interviewed whenever the news orgs need a sound bite. They know they are the minority too. So the best they can do it whip up this anti-obama conspiracy bullshit that he's out to "take hurr guns."

Yep, those who hunt don't give a shit. Everyone else who is thinking about buying something other than a single-shot shotgun or bolt-action low-caliber rifle should be wary. "Crazy gun owning Kons"? Basically everyone who tried to buy a new semi-auto rifle from 1994 to 2004. As for demand...we get virtually nothing from suppliers these days. Rifles, pistols, ammo, it doesn't matter. Everything, and I do mean everything, is scarce. As such, our ratio of new to used guns is now something like 20/80. Kinda sad about Texas show promoters, however. Around here most promoters frown upon a large portion of "private collections". Which promoters operate down in those parts, anyway?

Also, Obama doesn't want our guns...that's Holder. hehe

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:11 pm

In the end, however, it doesn't really matter. Guns won't be totally banned any time soon, and any restrictions won't be retroactive. The only thing that will change will be what pre-ban rifles go for, and what will be allowed on new rifles.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:15 pm

Twiddle wrote:I love how the 2nd amendment is used to attack the other original amendments and the fourteenth

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:11 pm

Awesome, another gun control clusterfuck.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:09 am

Damocles wrote:As for demand...we get virtually nothing from suppliers these days. Rifles, pistols, ammo, it doesn't matter. Everything, and I do mean everything, is scarce.

Probably because everything's already been sold to the Mexican drug cartels.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:30 am

No doubt! They're probably buying all our stuff so we're defenseless! Conspiracy!!

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:33 am

BulletMagnet wrote:
Damocles wrote:As for demand...we get virtually nothing from suppliers these days. Rifles, pistols, ammo, it doesn't matter. Everything, and I do mean everything, is scarce.
Probably because everything's already been sold to the Mexican drug cartels.

Outfitting entire armies south of the US would tend to create a bit of a drain on local gun and ammo supply wouldn't it? The sad thing is how much the NRA, gun dealers, and gun nut conservatives are looking the other way on this. It's either because they fear any more gov regulation of the industry or, more likely, they enjoy all that Mexican drug money.

Sure you might see the occasional redneck refusing to sell to a "messican-looking" guy who doesn't speak "prop-her anglish" but that doesn't do shit. Really that's all a song and dance show for the authorities. The mexican cartels are too smart to be stopped that way and given the amount of ammo they expend in a given day; obviously have a good supplier within the American gun community. So how come hardly any American smugglers have been caught sneaking guns into Mexico?

Edit: I just saw Damocles call it a conspiracy. Well it's starting to sound like a valid theory. I also see that Kansas isn't suffering from the fallout from this as much as Texas is. They just see the money and then they make a huge assumption about who's buying the guns. The Texas murder rate is way up, especially along the border. Our border agents have also sometimes been forced to retreat from drug cartel incursions because the cartels are just so heavily armed. This following article comes as no surprise to those living in border states...

"The State Department recently estimated U.S.-originated guns were used in 95% of Mexico's drug-related killings. The number of such murders more than doubled to almost 6,000 last year, up from about 2,700 in 2007.

Meanwhile, U.S. authorities seized only 257 weapons heading south at border checkpoints in 2008 -- and a total of just 733 dating back to the start of 2005, according to data Homeland Security officials provided to The Wall Street Journal."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123673432697490561.html

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:38 am

far more interested in what's gonna happen with the german media/government ...

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:54 am

If I didn't hate smileys so much I would have popped one on the end. Apparently I should have. Exclamation points after every sentence and an extra one at the end just weren't enough.

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