Official: Mushihime-sama Futari (1.0, 1.5, BLT)

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:11 am

futari ultra is rape......

put it this way SFKhoa and malik11 can make it to stage 3 consistently in mushi ultra....they can rarely make it to the first boss in futari ultra

i dont play ultra in futari......im not a glutton for punishment

futari ultra is faster and denser than mushi ultra....and very little slowdown.....

even i can beat the first stage of mushi ultra.....i cannot even make the midboss usually in futari

but i pretty much just play maniac for both.....

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:20 am

any superplays of futari ultra floating around? i'd love to see that (and hopefully someday be utterly destroyed by it).

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:47 am

brokenhalo wrote:any superplays of futari ultra floating around? i'd love to see that (and hopefully someday be utterly destroyed by it).

Here are some I uploaded for CAVE-STG.com members awhile back:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JOQ9PE3X

407mil stage 3 (better than Dame K.K. on the superplay DVD), and the first half of Stage 4. Both vids are no miss/no bomb. The players are unknown, but it's a different guy in each vid.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:49 am

The players are unknown

I think those were my vids!

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:12 am

EOJ wrote:http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JOQ9PE3X

"The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable." Did you kill the file?

Also, off topic, but I was wondering if anyone had some superplays of Death Smiles. There's a few vids of it on youtube and nico, but the quality is still fairly poor. That Japanese BBS seems to be permanently dead as well.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:17 pm

Elixir wrote:
EOJ wrote:http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JOQ9PE3X
"The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable." Did you kill the file?

Also, off topic, but I was wondering if anyone had some superplays of Death Smiles. There's a few vids of it on youtube and nico, but the quality is still fairly poor. That Japanese BBS seems to be permanently dead as well.

i was able to download them but can't get them to play at all. tried to convert them from avi to anything else and my converter claimed there wasn't any video data in the files. dunno.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:45 pm

The download link still works for me too (just tried it again now). As the message stated, it was "temporarily unavailable", so megaupload must have been under maintenence. They wouldn't say that if I removed the file, obviously.

I use VLC media player to play them, and they work fine. You won't get any video if you use Windows Media Player (at least I can't see anything when I try and open them with that). Just use VLC.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:46 pm

vlc player worked. thanks for that. ultra mode is ultra! come on xbox 360 port.

msm · Post by **msm** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:50 am

EOJ wrote:Futari's Ultra is harder than Mushi's Ultra. Just FYI.

If you need an easier difficulty in Futari 1.5, there's always Original mode. It's a lot better than Mushi's Original mode as it actually has a fun scoring system.

thanks for the info, like jonny5 i'd definitely be sticking to manic, on mushi i actually find original harder than manic

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:04 am

Wow, st3.avi had some amazing quality. I really want to get Futari soon.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:55 am

jonny5 wrote:futari ultra is rape......

put it this way SFKhoa and malik11 can make it to stage 3 consistently in mushi ultra....they can rarely make it to the first boss in futari ultra

I can get to the end of Stage 3 on a credit in both Futari Ultra and Mushi Ultra. But I've played Futari Ultra a lot more than Mushi Ultra.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:29 pm

the problems i'm having with futari ultra are the first midboss (he takes a lot of damage, and you have to play improvised going in and out of the fight because of the exploding scenery's suicide bullets); and the boss is much tougher than mushi's first boss on ultra.

does your weapons go down 1 level with each death as well? i know that's typical for a cave game, but with even 1 death on stage 1, the icicles on stage 2 seem to take much longer to kill. on the whole, it feels like everything has too many hit points. and it doesn't help that i like to play as normal reco

but i prefer her speed to abnormal palm's. for ultra modes, i think playing as slower ships is more desireable for weaving in between very tight gaps, compared to a more 'twitchy' ship. and W-Power on mushi feels slower than any ship on futari. and i feel like i need a slower ship.

maybe i should just switch to abnormal palm...?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:45 pm

jpj wrote:the problems i'm having with futari ultra are the first midboss (he takes a lot of damage, and you have to play improvised going in and out of the fight because of the exploding scenery's suicide bullets); and the boss is much tougher than mushi's first boss on ultra.

The first midboss is easy if you bomb just as its lifebar is appearing. The bomb will take out most of its life. Then just wait until the final pattern to destroy it for maximum gold and less popcorn enemies and bullet spam afterwards. Also, there is a way to get past the spam right before the midboss without too many problems (I do it 8 out of 10 times now). Watch some superplay vids.

does your weapons go down 1 level with each death as well?

No.

but with even 1 death on stage 1, the icicles on stage 2 seem to take much longer to kill. on the whole, it feels like everything has too many hit points. and it doesn't help that i like to play as normal reco

The icicles do take too many hit points. It's one of the harder parts in the whole game. In ver 1.0, the icicles are much weaker. I have no clue why they beefed them up so much in 1.5. With N.Reco, it's a real pain in the ass.

for ultra modes, i think playing as slower ships is more desireable for weaving in between very tight gaps, compared to a more 'twitchy' ship. and W-Power on mushi feels slower than any ship on futari. and i feel like i need a slower ship.

A guy on 2Ch said it best: "for Ultra, use Abnormal Palm. The only guy in the world who can clear the game with Normal Reco is SWY-Yusemi."

maybe i should just switch to abnormal palm...?

Yes, that would be a good idea.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:01 pm

i am watching replays. in fact, isn't one of the extras on the DVD showing one of the guys fucking up at stage 1 midboss? going in and out of the midboss fight, i can probably do it unscathed (no bomb) maybe 2 in 3. take into account that i'm only just starting with this mode. i guess my point was that ultra is tough from the get-go. at the moment, i'm fairly confident with the second half of stage 1, and killing everything in the correct/most efficient order. just need to to work on the stage 1 boss... first pattern is no problem, and i'm trying to copy K.K's pattern of escaping to the top right during the fire attack. but with less power, it means i have to repeat the first pattern again, but right to left. for the final pattern, if i line my ship up with the dinosaur's nose, and am a few pixels from the bottom, should i get through that each time?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:20 pm

jpj wrote: going in and out of the midboss fight, i can probably do it unscathed (no bomb) maybe 2 in 3.

With Reco or Palm? it's easier with Reco (I can do it basically every time with her). But everything from stage 2 on is harder with her, so I just stick with Palm.

just need to to work on the stage 1 boss... first pattern is no problem, and i'm trying to copy K.K's pattern of escaping to the top right during the fire attack. but with less power, it means i have to repeat the first pattern again, but right to left. for the final pattern, if i line my ship up with the dinosaur's nose, and am a few pixels from the bottom, should i get through that each time?

The problem is the fire attack is random (you either get one where you can escape, or a harder faster one where you cannot). I do an easy route with Palm, just one bomb on the first form to knock out half the lifebar, then no-bomb on the last phase. Yes, for the final phase just position yourself about 2 character lengths from the bottom in line with the nose, and tap down as he shoots the bullets out.

I do one bomb on the st1 midboss, and one bomb on the st1 boss, then 1 bomb on the stage 2 midboss. I usually need 2-3 bombs on the Stage 2 boss, so that's where I'll die if I no miss up until that point. All of this is with Palm, of course.

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:38 am

EOJ wrote: I do one bomb on the st1 midboss, and one bomb on the st1 boss, then 1 bomb on the stage 2 midboss. I usually need 2-3 bombs on the Stage 2 boss, so that's where I'll die if I no miss up until that point. All of this is with Palm, of course.

I was just watching the Futari Ultra replay by Yusemi SWY and yeah, it's pretty incredible. One thing that I noticed the first time I saw it was that he does not bomb on the stage 2 mid-boss and as a result doesn't kill it off. I guess this is strategic in aiming for a no-miss run? Seems like he sacrificed points.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:42 am

adversity1 wrote:One thing that I noticed the first time I saw it was that he does not bomb on the stage 2 mid-boss and as a result doesn't kill it off. I guess this is strategic in aiming for a no-miss run?

Yes. What he does there is incredibly difficult to replicate. I've tried many times, and never pulled it off without a death.