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Post by Frederik »

My first score post - whooo!

Frederik - Doom - 198,359,320 - B - 3

Made some nice score increase today :)
My 2nd and 3rd are 175 and 170mil.
malik11 wrote:
Arvandor wrote:May I ask why exactly everyone uses the A-Type chopper?
Because it looks sexy, and all the cool people are using it.
I prefer the more edgier design of Type B (Panzer Jäger) myself. :wink: Also, I´ve played it so much already that when I use Type A I constantly find myself being too slow. On the other hand, Type A is better suited for smaller dodges. But it´s not like they make as much difference as, say, the ships in DDP.
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jonny5 wrote:
henry dark wrote:
moozooh wrote: You are guessing correctly. But it's not like the patterns are changed completely, is it? Do you dodge each of them differently from the PCB version?
for all the similarity between the two versions, you may as well have been playing the PCB with your feet.
ya...i kind of found it funny when people were saying its just like playing the PCB.....or at least training for it

for the record...its absolutely nothing like playing PCB :!:

even if some of the patterns are 'similar'.... you are playing it on a cropped 4:3 screen yoko, controlling with a crappy dpad...not to mention the slowdown(if any) will be completely different

how exactly does this prepare you to play a game with a stick(unless you are the minority that uses controllers) on a vertical screen, with essentially different patterns....even if they are similar the aspect and spacing/timing will be different......
The thing is that certain patterns are just that: patterns. You have to understand them and adjust your brain to them. Case in point: the multiple-column pattern of the stage 3 boss and the swirly pattern of the stage 5 midboss. The first time you play these parts, you don't really understand how the projectiles move, so you don't know how to dodge them. But, after a while, you can at least understand that you have to, say, tap-dodge them, or move slightly back and forth, or certain projectiles will change colour, so you must train your eyes to focus on these projectiles, etc.

Keep in mind, I've played the Ketsui PCB just as much as you, so I think my opinion is still valid. I will say that it's not like there won't still be a transition phase for the various differences between the two versions, but playing Ketsui DL can probably help
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Updated.

No one argued for extra slots so I'll keep it at 10 each, came time to push some people off already so I had to decide.
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Elixir - Novice - 332,477,970 - Type-A - ALL
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One minute after updating, even more scores come in? :)
Added it. I wonder if MMM can't beat your novice score or just isn't trying 8)
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malik11 wrote:
jonny5 wrote:
henry dark wrote: for all the similarity between the two versions, you may as well have been playing the PCB with your feet.
ya...i kind of found it funny when people were saying its just like playing the PCB.....or at least training for it

for the record...its absolutely nothing like playing PCB :!:

even if some of the patterns are 'similar'.... you are playing it on a cropped 4:3 screen yoko, controlling with a crappy dpad...not to mention the slowdown(if any) will be completely different

how exactly does this prepare you to play a game with a stick(unless you are the minority that uses controllers) on a vertical screen, with essentially different patterns....even if they are similar the aspect and spacing/timing will be different......
The thing is that certain patterns are just that: patterns. You have to understand them and adjust your brain to them. Case in point: the multiple-column pattern of the stage 3 boss and the swirly pattern of the stage 5 midboss. The first time you play these parts, you don't really understand how the projectiles move, so you don't know how to dodge them. But, after a while, you can at least understand that you have to, say, tap-dodge them, or move slightly back and forth, or certain projectiles will change colour, so you must train your eyes to focus on these projectiles, etc.

Keep in mind, I've played the Ketsui PCB just as much as you, so I think my opinion is still valid. I will say that it's not like there won't still be a transition phase for the various differences between the two versions, but playing Ketsui DL can probably help
well i guess we shall see very soon....ketsui is coming home!!
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szycag wrote:One minute after updating, even more scores come in? :)
Added it. I wonder if MMM can't beat your novice score or just isn't trying 8)
I tried once when he first beat me, and I thought I did fairly well. Ended up with 280 million points and said forget it. The button tapping is horrible.
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I'm pretty much only bothering with Novice mode for scoring. I wouldn't like to do this rhythm-like button mashing on harder modes. My hand's cramped up a few times already, almost like saying the same word over and over until it's no longer the same word.

This game's scoring system is basically garbage. It made far more sense in the original. I plan on doing some pacifist runs for the higher levels (just for kicks, like I did in with Touhou) a little later on.
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Milk-tapping kind of discouraged me too. It's not a good thing to have on a handheld. Oh well, can always strive for clearing Doom mode.
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MSZ - Novice - 94,749,340 - Type-B - ALL
MSZ - Normal - 232,263,090 - Type-A - ALL
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RWM - Very Hard - 563,216,255 - B - 10

I was so close to beating Doom too, that bastard.
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NOVICE

MX7 - 128,678,805 - B - ALL

NORMAL

MX7 - 302,028,325 - B - ALL

HARD C

MX7- 251,242,705 - B - ALL

VERY HARD

MX7 - 632,294,465 - B - ALL

DEATH LABEL

MX7 - 516,323,735 - B - ALL
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Let's add some scores, hmm?

Novice
malik11 - 178 951 905 - A - ALL
(Auto bomb off, probably nomiss, starting with 20 stock)

Normal
malik11 - 303 426 810 - A - ALL
(Auto bomb off, probably nomiss, starting with 13 stock)

Doom Mode
malik11 - 175 415 890 - A - Stage 4
(Auto bomb on)

You guys have really good scores in Doom Mode. Post replays?
And I thought Doom Mode had only 3 stages! I was misinformed!
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P_HAT wrote:Szy you must TAP-TAP-TAP to shoot only with damn main gun D:

I think my DS will die soon :shock:
Am I missing out on some secret strategy information? If so, where can I find it? Do you mean you press the lockshot button just long enough to use the laser portion only, before the beams have a chance to lock on?
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malik11 wrote:Do you mean you press the lockshot button just long enough to use the laser portion only, before the beams have a chance to lock on?
Yeah, that's exactly it.
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Novice:
BiQ - 122,007,115 - Type-A - ALL
Normal:
BiQ - 233,266,100 - Type-A - ALL
Hard A:
BiQ - 90,420,385 - Type-A - ALL
Hard B:
BiQ - 57,684,745 - Type-A - ALL
Hard C:
BiQ - 246,834,715 - Type-A - ALL
Very Hard:
BiQ - 422,963,455 - Type-B - Stage 10
Death Label:
BiQ - 156,583,710 - Type-B - Stage 6
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MrMonkeyMan - Doom - 555,569,020 - A - ALL

There's actually a way to dodge that swirly, curly, pink attack Doom throws out during his first set of attacks (the final pattern of the first set)! If you start out in the top left corner and crawl around the edge of the screen you will find that there's a small hole in the pattern you can squeeze through. Saves a good number of bombs and lives.
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MMM: YOU WIN!
Updated.
(I'll work up the nerve to post some scores of my own soon)
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MSZ - Novice - 127,632,440 - Type-A - ALL
MSZ - Death Label - 104,504,315 - Type-A - Stage 7
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Edit: Update!

ILM - Novice - 229,430,750 - Type-B - ALL
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Good luck or cry.
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And again...

Novice
malik11 - 271 688 175 - A - ALL

Very Hard
malik11 - 1 110 451 880 - A - ALL

Death Label
malik11 - 534 872 710 - A - ALL

Extra
malik11 - 46 373 590 - A - Stage 1

Marvel at my horrible Extra score! XD
I WAS relieved that Ketsui DL has a regular stage after all, but Extra really is merciless.
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henry dark - death label - 616,831,105 - A - Stage 10
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sorry, my last death label score wasn't an ALL, I died at level 10 :o

:oops:
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Post by Frederik »

Frederik - Death Label - 565,833,975 - B - All

Yeah right, like I actually tried scoring at all :roll: Just wanted to post my first DL All score :)
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Frederik wrote:Yeah right, like I actually tried scoring at all :roll: Just wanted to post my first DL All score :)
I don't think anyone in the right mind is going to bother, say, lock-shot tapping in Death Label.
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Well, there's also boss hugging, bomb milking and remembering to finish the boss with the rapid shot too :P

I love the scoring in this game.
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MX7 wrote:Well, there's also boss hugging, bomb milking and remembering to finish the boss with the rapid shot too :P

I love the scoring in this game.
Bomb (milk)ing is pretty much inevitable in the formula for clearing Death Label.

And if you love the scoring (including the lock-shot tapping), you may be one of very few. I can sure say that I think Arika would have been wise not to tamper with the tried-and-true scoring system from the Ketsui PCB for Extra mode. But then, that mode is frustrating for more than one reason.
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I decided to sit down with this game and give it an hour of my time. :lol:

LaserGun - Novice - 232,618,230 - A - ALL
LaserGun - Doom - 111,691,620 - A - 3

Starting to get used to the last pattern Doom uses.
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Could someone be so kind to point me to a website/page where they explain the Ketsui scoring system?


Or explain it here


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Novice Mode
SFKhoa - 223,627,340 - B - ALL
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