Best versions (Chaos Field/Psyvariar 2/Shikigami 2)

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:03 pm

Has anyone played the multitude of versions of these titles to be in a position to declare which version of each is best? All comments welcome - help me get the best versions!

rib · Post by **rib** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:29 pm

discused before but here:

chaos field, gamecube version has everything plus the new mode and at least equal or better graphics than the dreamcast version.

shikigami 2, gamecube version has the best graphics otherwise same as the dreamcast and the ps2 version.

psyvariar 2, ps2 has more features than the dreamcast version.

well looks like a general rule: if there is a gc version get this, otherwise get the ps2 version if it has more features, otherwise get the dreamcast version due its crisp graphics.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Mon May 23, 2005 9:11 pm

Thanks for the info. I had expected that all this had been discussed before, but probably on the old (now dead) forum. One point though - I notice you haven't mentioned the XBox versions. How do the XBox versions of Psyvariar 2 and Shiki 2 compare against the other versions? I remember that the XBox got the best version of Shiki 1.

rib · Post by **rib** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:49 pm

in general graphically i would say the xbox versions are above all other versions but i dont know them.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:35 am

Whether a shmup is good or not isn't a question of hardware power, it's one of whether the port quality is good or not. The Shiki series has gotten really good Xbox ports, but the Psyvariar one was fairly lackluster iirc.

gundamalpha · Post by **gundamalpha** » Tue May 24, 2005 5:35 am

rib wrote:in general graphically i would say the xbox versions are above all other versions but i dont know them.

not really, a dreamcast with vga box beats everthing graphically

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:24 am

So, there is no unanimous view on which are the best versions? Has no one played each to come to a conclusive decision? I'm not interested in speculation about which version aught to be best, I need hard facts!

Post by **Ghegs** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:50 am

bcass wrote:So, there is no unanimous view on which are the best versions? Has no one played each to come to a conclusive decision? I'm not interested in speculation about which version aught to be best, I need hard facts!

The silence could also be interpreted to mean that the differences are so small and/or insignificant that each version is equally competent to give you a solid gaming experience.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:59 am

[cynic_mode]It could also be interpreted as people not willing to admit to the shortfalls of the version they opted to buy.[/cynic_mode]

Post by **Ghegs** » Tue May 24, 2005 11:04 am

True, but who buys two or three versions of the same game unless they really, REALLY love it, and even then it makes little sense nowadays when all ports are fairly accurate as opposed to "back then" when R-Type was a wildly different beast depending on whether you're playing in on SMS, PCE or MSX...

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Tue May 24, 2005 11:12 am

There must be loads of people on the forum who have friends who own the same game but on a different format. There are also plenty of folk around here who do buy multiple versions of the same game so they can ensure that they have the best version (with the inferior version often being sold-on).

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:18 pm

psyvariar 2 on Xbox sucked, according to Saurian. I'd go with DC or PS2.

The other 2 are better on NGC.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:25 pm

Psyvariar-wise, supposedly the DC version is "most authentic," since it's the most "direct" arcade port and lacks a roll button, but the PS2 version has more features and such. XBox version supposedly has some "remixed" stuff in it, but is generally considered the lesser port of the bunch.

Shikigami-wise, again, the DC port is supposed to be most "authentic", but otherwise the versions are apparently more or less identical.

CF-wise, the GC version apparently has more stuff (including a score-save feature! Imagine that!) and (I think) less slowdown, so most would agree to go for that one over the DC version.

Didn't I just make this post a few days ago? Groundhog Day!

incognoscente · Post by **incognoscente** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:33 pm

http://forum.shmups.com/forum/viewtopic ... ght=#18419

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue May 24, 2005 8:42 pm

Shiki II and Psyvariar 2 on the xbox are basically perfect, as far as ports (I have both). I've played DC psyvariar 2 and I prefer the xbox version because the graphics and sound are identical but the xbox version has some extras (and is much cheaper). I don't know why people are so down on it (most of whom seem to have never even played this version, strangely enough).

I don't really care for either game, however.

I'm just commenting on the port quality here.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Tue May 24, 2005 9:58 pm

bcass wrote:There must be loads of people on the forum who have friends

Stop right there. That's just wishful thinking