A question that is gonna sound sexist

[OmniGLH]

sometimes I used to wonder
how the hell a ugly dude get a fine girls number

he getting juiced for his duckets
I tell a girl in a minute yo I drive a bucket

[CMoon]

Don't worry, science will come to the rescue.

Soon you will be able to clone yourself, then give your clone a sex change and marry yourself.

The problem isn't modern women, but people in general. They suck!

Now if 50% of clone marriages end in divorce...well, shit, that's a more cosmic statement. I imagine atheism and suicide will skyrocket.

[DEL]

jpj wrote;

that's just what a large slice of american women are like, sadly.

i recommend you move

Move
but to where?

Japanese wives for instance will LEAVE you instantly if you lose your job - so that's that country ruled out.
Chinese women from the big cities like Shanghai and Beijing are VERY materialistic - so thats no good either.
UK - Nope, same as USA.
South America, Russia, mainland Europe - dunno

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Anyway, in my experience you can trust between 0% - 10% of girls/women not to cheat on you in a long-term relationship.

CMoon wrote;

The problem isn't modern women, but people in general. They suck!

This is very true....unfortunately.

[E. Randy Dupre]

A question that is gonna sound sexist

Because it is.

Next?

[jpj]

jpj wrote;

that's just what a large slice of american women are like, sadly.

i recommend you move

Move
but to where?

Japanese wives for instance will LEAVE you instantly if you lose your job - so that's that country ruled out.
Chinese women from the big cities like Shanghai and Beijing are VERY materialistic - so thats no good either.
UK - Nope, same as USA.
South America, Russia, mainland Europe - dunno

cross the border
i can't imagine canadian women are as vapid ... or are they?

[FIL]

Mail order brides are the way forward.

[evil_ash_xero]

A question that is gonna sound sexist

Because it is.

Next?

Well, maybe I am a bit. Sorry.

s/m

[Ed Oscuro]

Tricorner hats are ultra-patriotic...in fact they transcend patriotism

if McCain put one on his head it'd be like he brought down the shanksville airliner all by himself, won WWII, and was George Washington and Thomas Jefferson...fused into one person!

[gennss]

Hispanic women from latin america aren't all that different. Women from my grandparents generation are, but modern women don't "need" anyone anymore, hence the volatility of modern relationships. Women just like all people can be vipers watch yourself in all situations doesn't mean not to have relationships, means to hide part of whats in your wallet for rainy days.

[neritai]

Find a nice Korean girl, cut her arms and legs off, and remove her larynx.

Problem solved!

Alternate solution: frontal lobotomies.

Either way, you should end up with a partner you can be satisfied with.
A bonus with the first is that you can travel with her as checked luggage, given a sufficiently-sized suitcase.

[BryanM]

* stupidity removed *

The most famous site for misogyny is Men Are Better Than Women.

[Daedalus]

The misogyny overflows in this thread. Since I could say something about nearly every post, I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut and answer the main question.

Are relationships with the modern woman a pointless and temporary thing? And no I don't mean ALL women, just the vast majority of modern women in the US and Europe.

I just know a lot of guys who date women, and they all tend to get two-timed and money sucked out of them. Sometimes they get married and have a kid and the woman leaves him later for some other guy.

They seem to be hard to keep, and hard to please for long periods of time.

I see that argument about women "sucking the cash out of you" from a lot of people. Do they dig through your wallet at night? Few women are going to love an excessively stingy guy, but the other extreme is no good either. If she expects to be a significant drain on you, dump her. Although, if I can speculate a little here: I think a lot of guys who get into this want it both ways - They want to have a position of power in the relationship (by having the girl dependent on them) but don't want to actually pay for it.

As for cheating, yeah a lot of women do it, but every statistic shows the number of men to be higher. You can't really blame women for being human.


As for your friends, I have two thoughts on that. The first is, if a guy goes out with a certain kind of woman, and the relationship falls apart... generally he'll go for that same kind of woman again. Like women who keep getting into abusive relationships. It's stupid, but people do it.

The second is, you can't be entirely sure they're being honest in this. Very few people will admit "I fucked up, I ignored her, I didn't take care of her in bed, etc etc". Many times people have difficulty admitting it to themselves.


And ultimately, you're not getting married right now. Take it light - You don't need to "make it work" right now. You should be dating lots of different women in trying to find one who's right for you. Trying to make a long relationship out of something that isn't meant to be will only cause you both misery.

[croikle]

You don't see black guys swimming in the olympics or doing many long distance races, just as you don't see white guys in short distance races.

How long distance are you talking about? Kenyans own at marathons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_( ... _ten_lists

edit: link isn't fully linkified, try this: http://xrl.us/osk6j

[jonny5]

jpj wrote;

that's just what a large slice of american women are like, sadly.

i recommend you move

Move
but to where?

Japanese wives for instance will LEAVE you instantly if you lose your job - so that's that country ruled out.
Chinese women from the big cities like Shanghai and Beijing are VERY materialistic - so thats no good either.
UK - Nope, same as USA.
South America, Russia, mainland Europe - dunno

cross the border
i can't imagine canadian women are as vapid ... or are they?

sadly no.....women here are just as annoying.....i think i have the only non-annoying girl in the country

[gennss]

Misogyny is likely a product of rampant feminism in the quest for sex equality. Problem is most people throw too hard to one side or the other.

IMO, the majority is stupidity and people trying to scam other people exercise caution with all humanity.

In addition, deep relationships are complex simply because human being have trouble understanding each other in general.

[The n00b]

Sounds like quite a few guys don't know how to pick "modern women." If you find yourself constantly getting involved with women who only screw you out of your money and heart then I'd be taking a good hard look at who you are attracted to. It might be the case that you are actually attracted to these sorts of women.

That sucks because then you are pretty much the equivalent of a fat chick with low self esteem who puts out for any guy in the vain hope that she'll get a boyfriend that way. It's pretty sad.

[JoshF]

Hey how many of you guys out there are from Jersey? Any single guys in the audience? What's the deal with women?

[TriggerHeartExelica]

Modern woman...uh, today's women. Typical woman of today. You get the picture.

I just know a lot of guys who date women, and they all tend to get two-timed and money sucked out of them. Sometimes they get married and have a kid and the woman leaves him later for some other guy.

They seem to be hard to keep, and hard to please for long periods of time.

I have a lot of female friends, and it's the same thing with them too. Perhaps I just don't know enough "good" women to have a more positive view.

I just wondered if anyone here had long positive relationships with younger women(35 or younger) that could be influential on my point of view.

s/m

Well, girls are human - like men. What do you expect?

Just seems like they've surpassed men a bit recently. We used to be the bedhopping bastards, and now they tend to be even more so.

I'm telling you, it's girls gone wild.

s/m

Apparently you don't pay attention to history. In the past it has been socially unacceptable for a woman to sleep with anyone but the man she was married to. Yet men could do as they please and have as many sexual partners as they wished. Gee I wonder whats going to happen when that standard is no longer as enforced as it was in say the 1800's?
And you are a total and complete moron. Never make an assumption based on your bad relationships. Thats like a woman saying all men are pigs based on the fact she has had a string of bad relationships.

[TriggerHeartExelica]

* stupidity removed *

The most famous site for misogyny is Men Are Better Than Women.

I actually clicked that link and started reading. Then I had to stop because I could feel my hormones begin to rage at that atrocity DM calls a website. Seriously any man who thinks like that needs to be shot on sight.

[Daedalus]

In the past it has been socially unacceptable for a woman to sleep with anyone but the man she was married to. Yet men could do as they please and have as many sexual partners as they wished.

You're saying that historically, it has been socially acceptable for married men to sleep around as they liked? And in America?

I'll agree that there was somewhat more social pressure on women than men, but it was generally socially unacceptable for either of them to do it. In spite of this, both men and women have frequently cheated on their spouses throughout history.

[Ed Oscuro]

In the past it has been socially unacceptable for a woman to sleep with anyone but the man she was married to. Yet men could do as they please and have as many sexual partners as they wished.

You're saying that historically, it has been socially acceptable for married men to sleep around as they liked? And in America?

Man, if you owned a plantation, you could do whatever the fuck you wanted.

Only to black people though. (Or Indians.)

Also, BryanM missed a good chance to use the word "infamous." I read that guy's site a little once because some teenagers thought it was INCREDIBLY JUST (or something); he certainly doesn't provide evidence than men proofread better than women. Too stupid to entertain me for long.

[themachinist]

Not that I've dated a whole lot of women... but I've run into women who don't suck your money and will insist on paying every other date/thing more often than not.

The last person I was seeing I just adored and doted on her. That was sort of a bad move in retrospect but hey, what can you do.

[Skykid]

Just seems like they've surpassed men a bit recently. We used to be the bedhopping bastards, and now they tend to be even more so.

I'm telling you, it's girls gone wild.

s/m

Ha ha. It's funny how this is the same in the US as it is here in the UK (and probably everywhere else.)
I don't think its a bad thing, women are just more assertive these days and know what they want. The tables have definitely turned slightly.

I was having the same conversation with someone the other day who was also on the girlfriend hunt. We were remembering when we used to go drinking at 17 that the girls were generally quite quiet and either were out with a group of guys or a few girls. On the whole they were completely approachable.

These days they hang around in large groups of girls, generally wankered and screaming their heads off (come to Brighton on a Saturday night) and are the scariest bunch ever. Attempting to break into conversation usually results in getting insulted, laughed at by everyone and told to fuck off. I think blokes are more inclined to be the ones staying at home with their mates and a takeaway while the gals go out and raise hell.

Then again, perhaps you're just not looking in the right places. You don't have to be alcohol fueled to work up the courage to speak to someone, and generally good sober impressions will have a longer lasting effect.

As for the modern woman thing... dunno. They're all modern. So are we.

[spadgy]

come to Brighton on a Saturday night

God it's a terrifying experience at times!

Anyway, all I can say on this issue is women as a group are as varied as men and humans in general, so very very few blanket statements really apply. We're all different in the end.

I did, however, live with four girls for over two years, and I was the only guy in the flat. Brilliant fun, and very inciteful, but really, it was exactly like living with male mates - the things they talked about, their worries, their concerns with the opposite sex. There was this chart on the wall with sillouettes to demonstrate the penis sizes of their conquests, but I made every entry on it completely fraudulent and mishapen.

They like Sex In The City. That's the only real difference.

[Skykid]

They like Sex In The City. That's the only real difference.

Win!

[TriggerHeartExelica]

In the past it has been socially unacceptable for a woman to sleep with anyone but the man she was married to. Yet men could do as they please and have as many sexual partners as they wished.

You're saying that historically, it has been socially acceptable for married men to sleep around as they liked? And in America?

I'll agree that there was somewhat more social pressure on women than men, but it was generally socially unacceptable for either of them to do it. In spite of this, both men and women have frequently cheated on their spouses throughout history.

While its true it was socially unacceptable for both sexes to cheat on their spouses, who caught more shit for it when it came out men or women? Scarlet letter anyone?

[gennss]

That sucks because then you are pretty much the equivalent of a fat chick with low self esteem who puts out for any guy in the vain hope that she'll get a boyfriend that way. It's pretty sad.

100% win.

[Elixir]

This is a good thread.

[FIL]

Brighton is scary enough during the day.

[Daedalus]

While its true it was socially unacceptable for both sexes to cheat on their spouses, who caught more shit for it when it came out men or women? Scarlet letter anyone?

The Scarlet Letter was a ficticious work written partly to criticize the puritans, a rabidly religious sect. The puritans of the time were outraged by it, but it became a bestseller in the rest of America. Thus I think it's safe to say that the puritanical values held by the town in the book were not representative of America at the time.

As for the events of the book itself, the only reason the woman received all the flak was because of her secrecy. The town wanted to find out the name of the man she slept with so they could punish him too, but she refused to divulge it.