Ketsui for DS?!

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:30 pm

This is not opinion; this is fact.

orly!

I like both, it's a fact that I like both btw.
Difficulty-wise DOJ is MUCH harder than Ketsui. Just look at the highscore threads and keep in mind that much more people have access to DOJ.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:43 pm

Zweihander wrote:This is not opinion; this is fact.

You can't even tell facts and your own opinion apart.
This is a fact.
Maaaan, you have more issues than a new york newspaper stand.

Ravid · Post by **Ravid** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:04 pm

Zweihander wrote:butt-techno.

That a technical term?

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:23 pm

Jockel wrote:
Zweihander wrote:This is not opinion; this is fact.
You can't even tell facts and your own opinion apart.
This is a fact.
Maaaan, you have more issues than a new york newspaper stand.

that's for sure a fact!... for real.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:42 pm

MX7 wrote:Ketsui OST > DOJ OST

Not that either of them are pink sweets.

fixed

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:48 pm

jpj wrote:
MX7 wrote:Ketsui OST > DOJ OST

Not that either of them are pink sweets.
fixed

Most definitely!

Pink Sweets has to my mind the best soundtrack to any shooting game, evar.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:55 pm

Pink Sweets has to my mind the best soundtrack to any shooting game, evar.

FACT!

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:06 pm

jpj wrote:
MX7 wrote:Ketsui OST > DOJ OST

Not that either of them are Muchi Muchi Pork.
fixed

This needed repairing.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:29 pm

for real?

(i was tempted for the triple edit, but we'd be here all day

)

first tune is catchy, but i can't think of what any of the rest is like off the top of my head.

err, on topic: ketsui's soundtrack is very decent, i think. stage 4 is pretty wicked

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:16 pm

Ravid wrote:
Zweihander wrote:butt-techno.
That a technical term?

Yes. Dynasty Warriors is to butt-rock as Ketsui is to butt-techno. Also related on the butt-techno agenda: Chaos Field.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:44 pm

There are Gameboy covers of the stage two theme from Pink Sweets and the stage one theme from Muchi Muchi Pork on the forthcoming Official Shmups Forum Covers Album! Please anticipate it, Caizing fans

orange · Post by **orange** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:00 pm

MX7 wrote:
jpj wrote:
MX7 wrote:Ketsui OST > DOJ OST

Not that either of them are pink sweets.
fixed
Most definitely!

Pink Sweets has to my mind the best soundtrack to any shooting game, evar.

ketsui tops it for me but oh god the pink sweets ost is pure quality

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:17 pm

orange wrote:
MX7 wrote:
jpj wrote: fixed
Most definitely!

Pink Sweets has to my mind the best soundtrack to any shooting game, evar.
ketsui tops it for me but oh god the pink sweets ost is pure quality

Which version of Ketsui's soundtrack did you hear? I downloaded the one from the actual game, and it just seemed like really forgettable techno that sort of works while you're playing the game, but not something I'd want to listen to in my spare time when I have ESPgaluda, Psyvariar, or GGXX music on my hard drive.

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:19 am

Zweihander wrote:
orange wrote:
MX7 wrote: Most definitely!

Pink Sweets has to my mind the best soundtrack to any shooting game, evar.
ketsui tops it for me but oh god the pink sweets ost is pure quality
Which version of Ketsui's soundtrack did you hear? I downloaded the one from the actual game, and it just seemed like really forgettable techno that sort of works while you're playing the game, but not something I'd want to listen to in my spare time when I have ESPgaluda, Psyvariar, or GGXX music on my hard drive.

Do you know the difference between techno and drum'n bass? Do you hear a difference between Ketsui and ESP Galuda?

orange · Post by **orange** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:43 am

Zweihander wrote:ketsui tops it for me but oh god the pink sweets ost is pure qualityWhich version of Ketsui's soundtrack did you hear? I downloaded the one from the actual game, and it just seemed like really forgettable techno that sort of works while you're playing the game, but not something I'd want to listen to in my spare time when I have ESPgaluda, Psyvariar, or GGXX music on my hard drive.

the actual ost

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:36 am

ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
orange wrote: ketsui tops it for me but oh god the pink sweets ost is pure quality
Which version of Ketsui's soundtrack did you hear? I downloaded the one from the actual game, and it just seemed like really forgettable techno that sort of works while you're playing the game, but not something I'd want to listen to in my spare time when I have ESPgaluda, Psyvariar, or GGXX music on my hard drive.
Do you know the difference between techno and drum'n bass? Do you hear a difference between Ketsui and ESP Galuda?

Yeah, and it was some rather forgettable drum'n'bass. It's like this one late-night techno segment on a local radio station. Yeah, a lot of the stuff sucks, but hey, it could be worse, and makes for some nice background music while driving. I just don't remember any of it 5 minutes after getting out of my car.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:55 am

If it helps your case any, I'd love to play Ketsui but having played Megaman 2 via emulation on my DS today, I'm not really looking forward to it. It feels awkward. I'm not really looking forward to playing it with a 360 controller, either.

Actually I think this makes me lose interest in Ketsui in general. I can't seem to find the PCB (when it was last on Yahoo Japan?) and everyone that does have it wants $1800 for a full kit. Or the bare boards get sniped within minutes.

Also, music doesn't make the game. Be more worried about how it plays.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:02 am

Elixir wrote:If it helps your case any, I'd love to play Ketsui but having played Megaman 2 via emulation on my DS today

That's odd, me too. And Megaman 9...

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:51 am

The Ketsui soundtrack goes very well with the game. It has an odd 'floaty' feel, and has a surprising amount of breaks and syncopation's for what is essentially chip music. With the games comparative lack of slowdown and incessant aimed bullet barrage, the arpeggiated melodies and constant abuse of the Amen Break really give the game a sense of urgency. This is diminished somewhat when not hearing the soundtrack blasting out of an arcade cab.

This leads me On Topic (zomg). My only scepticism surrounding Ketsui DS, that even having accepted that it's a boss rush, is that the game will be somewhat lacking on the sound front. Even with a set of ultra bassy Koss plug type headphone, the DS can hardly create the massive BOOM BOOM of the games boss theme. To be honest, it's a trivial worry, but I really hope the music is remixed in order to sound acceptable on the DS.

Post by **spadgy** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:33 pm

MX7 wrote:
jpj wrote:
MX7 wrote:Ketsui OST > DOJ OST

Not that either of them are pink sweets.
fixed
Most definitely!

Pink Sweets has to my mind the best soundtrack to any shooting game, evar.

As both Ketsui and Pink Sweets have had a stint in our local arcade, I got a chance to immediately decide I hated the OSTs, but with time I grew to love both those bad boys a great deal. My love for Slammin' Vinyl and Dreamscape probably helps with that.

umi · Post by **umi** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:56 pm

Lol even in Japan a game like this isn't mainstream, and this fella's still trying to convince everyone not to buy it (even before it's out)? wtfg! All signs point to it being kick ass, but they haven't managed to cram a whole pcb ($1000+) onto a DS cartridge, so it's not worth $50, even with its added features. There's probably a new (full) version of some pet-poking game he can spend his money on, I'm sure. All I can say is that I hope this is released on schedule, because it's getting so close and I'm itching to give it a try...

As for the ost's, I love both DOJ and Kestui. I find them quite similar for some reason. Cave games always have stellar soundtracks, if only because there aren't many games these days that they really tack good straight action soundtracks onto (yet they have enough depth to stand up to repeat listenings, some more than others obviously). And of course the Pink Sweets ost is amazing, as many others have said. I'm still very partial to the Progear tunes, but no one else ever seems to even mention that one. It really hits the spot with me for some reason.

Post by **Ghegs** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:34 am

Since I'm getting rather tired of splitting this thread every couple of days I'm going to try a different approach. I'm going to lock it temporarily. Not permanently, just for a while until some heads cool down. Might be two days, might be a week. Don't know yet. Then I'll completely unceremoniously unlock it. If some actual, concrete news and/or information concerning the game pops up in the mean time, just PM me about it.

EDIT: Temporary lock lifted.

ReKleSS · Post by **ReKleSS** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:10 am

Mihara has announced the demo is available on "DS station." I get the impression this was meant to be possible via the Wii, but I've got no idea. Maybe a JP Wii is required?

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:32 am

According to a Wii obsessed colleague, while in theory any region DS can play any region DS Station demo, you do need the right region Wii to access the right region of DS station....

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:13 pm

It's not difficult to change the region of your Wii if you do the Twilight Princess hack and install the Homebrew Channel.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:36 pm

download stations are those things that are setup in public, where people can download demos. they're usually dumped as well

if someone finds a dump, feel free to post it here.
it's a demo, it's not illegal to share those.
edit: just read up on it, its on the japanese wii - i'll try and download this now.

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:53 pm

Jockel wrote:download stations are those things that are setup in public, where people can download demos. they're usually dumped as well
if someone finds a dump, feel free to post it here.
it's a demo, it's not illegal to share those.
edit: just read up on it, its on the japanese wii - i'll try and download this now.

let us know how does it goes... im interested in tryin this baby out!... one week left baby!

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:20 pm

ok it worked and i played it.
its pretty cool, as expected.
there should be a dumping tool for this, but i don't know it for sure.
if you know how to, (and which tool) please post here or PM ^^
So far i only made it to the 3rd (or 4th?) loop of doom.
Score is a lousy 108,249,190.

There is autobombing, but if it happens all your bombs are gone, not just one.
so yeah you should still try to bomb

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:11 pm

Jockel wrote:ok it worked and i played it.
its pretty cool, as expected.
there should be a dumping tool for this, but i don't know it for sure.
if you know how to, (and which tool) please post here or PM ^^
So far i only made it to the 3rd (or 4th?) loop of doom.
Score is a lousy 108,249,190.
There is autobombing, but if it happens all your bombs are gone, not just one.
so yeah you should still try to bomb

d00000000000000000000000d!!....
i wish i know how to dump nds roms or shit... i REALLY wanna try that demo man!... i envy you.

mrtie · Post by **mrtie** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:22 pm

That might help I'm not really sure. I really hope you could get this dumped I'm dieing to try it.

more in depth look at how you can dump DS roms..I'm not entirely sure this would work due to it being stored in system ram. Good luck.

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