PS3 or PCB?

[Etrian]

Heya guys. Just looking for opinions here.. what do you think of the PS3 so far? Lately I've been playing with one and it's quite fun. The Initial D game mostly, but I'm looking at MGS4, SC4, and Disgaea 3. I have enough dough to buy one, or maybe it should go towards something like Ketsui..

Before someone recommends it, I already have a Japanese 360..

Thanks!

[Strider77]

tough call, but if you have been playing one and enjoying it on top of your import 360. you might want to grab one.

it might be smart to wait on the some of the cave PCBs since they are getting ported.

I've been playing alot of Initial D also... glad to see someone else on here likes it.

[D]

If you're just gonna use the ps3 for games I would suggest you get a japanese ps2 instead or indeed pcb's/nice cab.
I personally use the ps3 as a media centre, audio, video, internet and ... ps1, ps2 and ps3 games so there's no way I'm going to let it go.

[Elixir]

Well, at least with a PCB, you'd have a game to play.

Yeah I'm exaggerating a bit but apart from Disgaea 3 (and that's mostly because I'm a fan) I don't see value for money here. MGS4, eh, it's also one for the fans. I'd recommend doing nothing at the moment and see what happens with the JP 360 scene, since you do tend to play it often.

The PS3 does have a promising future. It's taking forever to get here though.

[MR_Soren]

Since you have a Japanese 360, it seems like you'd do better to wait for the Ketsui port than buying a Ketsui PCB. Assuming the port is good, of course.

Regarding the PS3... I actually agree with Elixir... the library's just not there yet. It may be wise to wait a bit. Lower initial cost, bigger library of lower-priced games, and possibly more power efficient chipset to minimize it's impact on your electric bill.

[honorless]

[...] what do you think of the PS3 so far?

Had a higher opinion of the system before they took out hardware BC.
The only games I'm vaguely interested in so far are on PSN.

If I were you I'd save up for a PCB, especially since you've already got a pretty top-tier SG. Take advantage of that shit.

But just in case it's important to you and you weren't already aware, it seems like PS2 BC is being removed entirely from the PS3. Sony says they want to take a two-SKU approach from now on, and their two newest models are 80 & 160GB with no BC. I think the 80GB with software BC has already been discontinued, but I dunno.

[Taylor]

I'm happy with mine, its exclusives may still be thin on the ground, but they're there. They might not be "buy a console for this" material for a lot of people, but Uncharted, MGS4, Motorstorm, Ratchet and Clank, Super Stardust HD, The Last Guy, Eden, Resistance, etc. are all far from terrible. And I watch a lot of movies on it, so nyah.

If you are after SC4 I assume you don't have a 'local' 360 and easy access to games? So all the multi-platform games will be available too.

My 360 also cost just as much, after I brought all the peripherals I needed that came as standard with the PS3 (wireless, decent controller, charger, etc).

[PC Engine Fan X!]

[...] what do you think of the PS3 so far?

Had a higher opinion of the system before they took out hardware BC.
The only games I'm vaguely interested in so far are on PSN.

If I were you I'd save up for a PCB, especially since you've already got a pretty top-tier SG. Take advantage of that shit.

But just in case it's important to you and you weren't already aware, it seems like PS2 BC is being removed entirely from the PS3. Sony says they want to take a two-SKU approach from now on, and their two newest models are 80 & 160GB with no BC. I think the 80GB with software BC has already been discontinued, but I dunno.

That would be the PS3 console with the 80GB HDD and a copy of Motor Storm included at the MSRP of $499.00 USD. That special PS3 console bundled packaged deal has long since been discountinued. Good luck finding it if you want that particular version.

SCEA has just released the newest USA region PS3 console with a 80GB HDD and a single Dual Shock 3 game controller with a $399.99 USD price tag. This version has come a long ways from the first USA region PS3 console that shipped with either a 20GB or 60GB HDD and a single PS3 Six Axis controller with either $499.99 or $599.99 price tags respectively.

The original 60GB PS3 console that was intially debuted on November 17th, 2006, for the USA market was the "UC2 CECHA01" with 120v AC rating + an auto-switching internal power supply which can accept a voltage range between 100V-240V (no need to buy such a fancy and expensive stepdown voltage convertor for use with European countries with such a 1st-generation issued USA region PS3). That is the one with the ability to play both PSX and PS2 games without any problems (give or take some titles). It can play any region PS3 games without any problems but can only play USA region PSX and PS2 games only. Plus, it can also play those cool Japanese Blu-Ray movie discs along with USA region Blu-Ray movies as well.

Here's the link that NCSX mentions that the 1st gen USA region PS3 console with "CECHA01" model no. that has the highly touted auto-switching internal power supply: http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/CECH-A01.html

Playing Ketsui PCB with a Supergun setup ain't too shabby. Would be even better to play it on a Japanese candy cab setup. Can't get any better than that. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Thunder Force]

Heya guys. Just looking for opinions here.. what do you think of the PS3 so far? Lately I've been playing with one and it's quite fun.

I recommend getting one, if you can afford it, and have a nice HDTV to hook it up to. The combination of PSN download titles, Blu-ray movies, and region-free import friendly Blu-ray games is great, and the build quality of the console is the highest on the market. The controllers are kind of uncomfortable though, but it's not a deal-breaker.

[Matsunaga]

Get the PS3. Blu-ray is great, the JPSN store constantly gets good stuff, and there's a lot of great exclusive games coming. If it just had some shooters, it would be perfect.

[Etrian]

If I were you I'd save up for a PCB, especially since you've already got a pretty top-tier SG. Take advantage of that shit.

You're right.. I'm not rich by any means, nor wealthy, but I just can't find them. Honestly I really want either Ketsui or Futari, but haven't had any luck in getting one. Not really interested in the full kit.. just the board.. which makes it worse.

As for waiting for the Ketsui 360 release.. it has no release date, it's done by a dating simulator company, and... there's no release date! I could be waiting a year for this thing to come.

Do the newer (40GBs on play-asia) PS3s have a universal power supply? Or do I have to find a 220v PS3 power adapter? They're much cheaper to purchase there, instead of locally.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

If I were you I'd save up for a PCB, especially since you've already got a pretty top-tier SG. Take advantage of that shit.

You're right.. I'm not rich by any means, nor wealthy, but I just can't find them. Honestly I really want either Ketsui or Futari, but haven't had any luck in getting one. Not really interested in the full kit.. just the board.. which makes it worse.

As for waiting for the Ketsui 360 release.. it has no release date, it's done by a dating simulator company, and... there's no release date! I could be waiting a year for this thing to come.

Do the newer (40GBs on play-asia) PS3s have a universal power supply? Or do I have to find a 220v PS3 power adapter? They're much cheaper to purchase there, instead of locally.

I'm not sure if the newer PS3 consoles with 40GB HDD have the previous metioned auto-swtiching internal power supply. You could try e-mailing Play-Asia and see if they do. And if they do, by all means get one! ^_~

It helps to get such a HDTV monitor capable of displaying at 1080 progressive scan output for best picture results via HDMI cable setup. Both video and sound are piped through just that single cable setup and looks damn beatiful. Try playing a gaming session of GT6-Prologue in full HD 1080p and it is quite something to behold. ^_~

The PS3's built-in scaler does a very good job converting such native 480p DVDs to 1080p (with the proper 1080p HDTV monitor, of course).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[pcb_revival]

Yes the 40GB units are multi voltage.

My favourite game is by far BurnOut Paradise online play.

[professor ganson]

On my US PS3 I play and really enjoy: Everyday Shooter, Uncharted, Burnout, Gradius V, and Dirt (though it makes me mildly nauseous).

The Jap PS3 is for Thunder Force VI when that comes out, and my Jap PS2 pinball games.

Probably not worthwhile if you don't have a HDTV. If you do, blu-ray is really impressive. But don't bother playing your PS1 games. Blah.

[KindGrind]

Just got a US one (80GB bundle with MGS4) and I play the thing quite a lot. Blu-rays are nice, although somewhat expensive... I picked a couple of HD-DVDs for 5$ over the course of the last few months, and don't regret them even if the format went snafu.

Get one if you have an HDTV and have remote interest in games people mentioned earlier.

[Etrian]

Do blu-ray movies require 1080p, or can they be played in 1080i/720p? I have a HDTV, but it only goes to 1080i maximum.

Same question, but for HDMI cables.. is 1080p a requirement? If anything, I would be buying the 40GB one, which doesn't have PS2 compatibility..

Oh! One last thing. Is it possible to buy stuff on the JP PSN store?

[TLDragoon]

I'm not for sure what resolutions the PS3 outputs Blue-Ray offhand, but it doesn't require 1080p.

It's vice versa for the HDMI cables. 1080p output requires HDMI cables, but HDMI can be used to output other resolutions.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

I'm not for sure what resolutions the PS3 outputs Blue-Ray offhand, but it doesn't require 1080p.

It's vice versa for the HDMI cables. 1080p output requires HDMI cables, but HDMI can be used to output other resolutions.

HDMI can output at 480i/480p, 720i/720p and at 1080i/1080p.

There are some HD games that only output in 720p at best like Time Crisis 4 for the PS3 console.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Matsunaga]

Do blu-ray movies require 1080p, or can they be played in 1080i/720p? I have a HDTV, but it only goes to 1080i maximum.

Same question, but for HDMI cables.. is 1080p a requirement? If anything, I would be buying the 40GB one, which doesn't have PS2 compatibility..

Oh! One last thing. Is it possible to buy stuff on the JP PSN store?

Blu-ray movies can play in 1080i, and everything else. It is also possible to buy things out of the JPSN store. All you need to do is make a japanese psn account, and get a japanese psn card, which I believe are available on ncsx.com. A google search will find you instructions on how to create the account. There's quite a few good shooters on there, like G-Darius, R-Type Delta, and Einhander, along with about 100 other ps1 titles.

[I'm Alec]

Well, its your call ultimately, but I can tell you I play Ketsui about 10x more than my PS3. It may also be noteworthy that I don't have a 360, so any multi platform games I play on PS3.

A few things you may want to consider are price fluctuations. With the 360 price cut coming any day now, I would imagine the PS3 price will be dropping soon too. As for Ketsui, theres really no telling. Could rise, could fall, could stay, though I don't see how it could possibly get higher. With the port coming somewhat soon, theres really no telling. Could fall, could rise who knows. I know games like Guwange and 3rd strike have been on the rise for a while even though there are alternative methods to playing them both.

That said, it really comes to personal preference. I like them both and don't think you could do wrong with either one.

[RackGaki]

If you can find a PS3 with full or partial PS2 b/c, buy it. Games like Guilty Gear, Metal Slug, Gradius V, and God of War look beautiful upscaled. Playstation 1 games even look passable.

A different PS3 would work just fine, but b/c is worth an extra $130 or more. It all looks better, even in 1080i.

[Daedalus]

I don't really like the PS3. Almost all the good games on it are muilti-platform. As for the exclusives... MGS4 isn't a bad game, but I think it's the weakest game of the series. SC4 you can get on your 360. The media capabilities are about the same as the 360 (if a little clunkier). Bluray player is useful if have a good TV or otherwise want to start buying blurays.

My parents own a PS3, and whenever I'm over there nothing even piques my interest besides Everyday Shooter. So yeah, I don't like it - but I don't think there's a whole lot I can offer to help ya. I'd just take a look at the PS3 exclusives you want, the PCB you want, and guess which one you'll spend more time on.

[neorichieb1971]

I'd take a PS3 over a PCB any day of the week. But, i'm a person who only plays a PCB for 30 minutes a time.

All of PS3's functionalities work in any resolution, except for 720p games that won't go as high as 1080p.

[professor ganson]

If you can find a PS3 with full or partial PS2 b/c, buy it. Games like Guilty Gear, Metal Slug, Gradius V, and God of War look beautiful upscaled. Playstation 1 games even look passable.

A different PS3 would work just fine, but b/c is worth an extra $130 or more. It all looks better, even in 1080i.

I agree, though PS1 games are barely passable. Which Guilty Gear Game looks good? I played one once on PS2 and it was really nice looking/playing, but it was so long ago... I can't even remember what it was called, exactly.

[RackGaki]

Which Guilty Gear Game looks good?

I've played Guilty Gear X, X2, Isuka, and Accent Core; the sprites pretty much stayed the same for the PS2 ports, additional movesets and characters notwithstanding. I just play Accent Core now - picked up the series for the visuals, stayed for the game.

BlazBlue, now that would be truly impressive to see on a PS3.

[professor ganson]

Cool, thanks. I recall now that it was X2 that I played. I'm not a big fighter fan, but that was a blast. And I fully believe it would look great on the PS3.

[antron]

since we are comparing it to a PCB, does anyone know if the PS3 can do 240p on an RGB SCART cable?

[kernow]

since we are comparing it to a PCB, does anyone know if the PS3 can do 240p on an RGB SCART cable?

don't think so, only 576i from a pal one, and 480i from an NTSC one.

[Etrian]

Hey, thanks for the responses guys. For now I'm gonna hold off on both.. can't get anyone to sell me a bare Ketsui or Futari board & the PS3's library is sorta limited at the moment.

Looks like I wasted everyone's time... I'm sorry.

[TLDragoon]

No problem with that. Honestly, if it weren't for Silent Hill: Homecoming, this month, I would be having a bit of buyers remorse.

But, I think that's more or less my attitude for this whole generation. The "wow" factor just isn't there. I've liked the games I've played (MGS4 is one of the best I've ever played). I can't place my finger on any one particular thing. It's more of an amalgamation of stuff from price to a general disinterest in what's out there (which is in part contributed to by the price).

I have a lot more interest in older games at the moment. I'm fascinated with taking a look back at games I missed, games I wanted but never had, and games that I never knew of.