Thunderforce VI announced by Famitsu for PS2 in 2008

[J-Manic]

Nice roster. I think I will be pleased.

[Herr Schatten]

Still, there were bigger and better games released before TFV, like Thunder Force IV.

True, but I still don't like how in every Thunderforce discussion that comes up these days, TFIV is praised like it's the best game ever and TFV is treated like it rivals Planet Joker. In reality, the gap between the two isn't all that big. Let's not forget that TFIV is not without its issues and it's perfectly possible to enjoy TFV.

I never really got all that free range whining, either. I think it really only matters to people playing TFV for score. I never really used free range much myself. Like lawnspic said:

I have never held onto that weapon the entire time (though i almost could just for the hell of it, still almost impossible)

If we talk about terrible weapon design in the Thunderforce series, why don't we ever mention the different incarnations of Wave, which, despite all looking and working slightly differently, all share the same amazing uselessness.

Also, I have to agree with Strider:

I think 4 is probably the better game but I admit I enjoy 5 more.

[Strider77]

yeah free range gets alot of bitching but I kinda found lancer in TF3 to be an incredibly powerful weapon over the others.... it was TF3's boss killer.

[Zeether]

I think the multiplier's back.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

Which means we will have no reason again to use any weapon but Free-Range.

[Strider77]

need a tissue?

[Gungriffon Geona]

I dunno about you but the vid made it seem like the Free Range was severely dumbed down. especially considering it was having trouble destroying a set of five enemies.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

need a tissue?

Just give me weapon balance.

[evil_ash_xero]

Imho, but GV looks bland. yeah, big lasers and explosions... but that's all. Bosses looks... well... like old G bosses in 3d. Awesome

Most of DC shmups looks better than G5

Well, i'm certainly going to have to disagree with that one. The best looking shooters on the Dreamcast are G Rev's, and they just kicked it up a notch for GV. So, what games look better? We can quarrel about design(which I think it still looks better), but in terms of sheer technology, GV looks better than any DC shooter.

s/m

[postman]

Gameplay vids:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapeipaa/2811014448/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapeipaa/2810172787/

That boss looks SWEET!

[Super Laydock]

^^ Dame Edna presents ThunderForce VI!

The game is looking better everytime I see it moving too btw.
Music seems ok, but below intended original (Broken Thunder ost by now) standards as far as I have heard.

Imho, but GV looks bland. yeah, big lasers and explosions... but that's all. Bosses looks... well... like old G bosses in 3d. Awesome

Most of DC shmups looks better than G5

Well, i'm certainly going to have to disagree with that one. The best looking shooters on the Dreamcast are G Rev's, and they just kicked it up a notch for GV. So, what games look better? We can quarrel about design(which I think it still looks better), but in terms of sheer technology, GV looks better than any DC shooter.

s/m

Well certainly most DC shmups look pale compared to Gradius V, but inho there are 3 to 4 games on par with it at least.

- Border Down is as technically advanced as GV though has not so imaginative design choices (not that I care since it does look beautiful - that and GV isn't that imaginative either). -on par+-

- Zero Gunner 2 (imho better looking than Border Down and WITH nice design (especially the bosses!) -on par+-

- Under Defeat (I don't really like it as much as I hoped I would, but technically it's awesome and well designed) -on par-

- Ikaruga, though far from a favourite of mine, is just as stunning looking as Gradius V. -on par-

[yojo!]

Gameplay vids:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapeipaa/2811014448/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapeipaa/2810172787/

That boss looks SWEET!

Is this Zorro playing the game?

[Domino]

Gameplay vids:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapeipaa/2811014448/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapeipaa/2810172787/

That boss looks SWEET!

Is this Zorro playing the game?

The director it seems: Tetsu Okano.

[evil_ash_xero]

^^ Dame Edna presents ThunderForce VI!

The game is looking better everytime I see it moving too btw.
Music seems ok, but below intended original (Broken Thunder ost by now) standards as far as I have heard.

Imho, but GV looks bland. yeah, big lasers and explosions... but that's all. Bosses looks... well... like old G bosses in 3d. Awesome

Most of DC shmups looks better than G5

Well, i'm certainly going to have to disagree with that one. The best looking shooters on the Dreamcast are G Rev's, and they just kicked it up a notch for GV. So, what games look better? We can quarrel about design(which I think it still looks better), but in terms of sheer technology, GV looks better than any DC shooter.

s/m

Well certainly most DC shmups look pale compared to Gradius V, but inho there are 3 to 4 games on par with it at least.

- Border Down is as technically advanced as GV though has not so imaginative design choices (not that I care since it does look beautiful - that and GV isn't that imaginative either). -on par+-

- Zero Gunner 2 (imho better looking than Border Down and WITH nice design (especially the bosses!) -on par+-

- Under Defeat (I don't really like it as much as I hoped I would, but technically it's awesome and well designed) -on par-

- Ikaruga, though far from a favourite of mine, is just as stunning looking as Gradius V. -on par-

Every one of those games you mentioned look great. Don't forget about Psyvariar 2.

But every one of them still doesn't look as good as GV, in my eyes. I mean, Border Down, Ikaruga, and Under Defeat all have graphics(the backgrounds) done by the same guys. It's just that the PS2 is more powerful, hence they were able to make it look a little prettier.

s/m

[Super Laydock]

^^ Dame Edna presents ThunderForce VI!

The game is looking better everytime I see it moving too btw.
Music seems ok, but below intended original (Broken Thunder ost by now) standards as far as I have heard.

Well, i'm certainly going to have to disagree with that one. The best looking shooters on the Dreamcast are G Rev's, and they just kicked it up a notch for GV. So, what games look better? We can quarrel about design(which I think it still looks better), but in terms of sheer technology, GV looks better than any DC shooter.

s/m

Well certainly most DC shmups look pale compared to Gradius V, but inho there are 3 to 4 games on par with it at least.

- Border Down is as technically advanced as GV though has not so imaginative design choices (not that I care since it does look beautiful - that and GV isn't that imaginative either). -on par+-

- Zero Gunner 2 (imho better looking than Border Down and WITH nice design (especially the bosses!) -on par+-

- Under Defeat (I don't really like it as much as I hoped I would, but technically it's awesome and well designed) -on par-

- Ikaruga, though far from a favourite of mine, is just as stunning looking as Gradius V. -on par-

Every one of those games you mentioned look great. Don't forget about Psyvariar 2.

But every one of them still doesn't look as good as GV, in my eyes. I mean, Border Down, Ikaruga, and Under Defeat all have graphics(the backgrounds) done by the same guys. It's just that the PS2 is more powerful, hence they were able to make it look a little prettier.

s/m

There's no arguing with taste (while arguing about taste isall well of course).

Yes Gradius V looks beautiful in some parts but in my opinion no better than the games I mentioned above.

And yes the PS2 is more powerful than the DC.
In general that is. Some stuff can be done better on DC than PS2 graphics wise though (I am no tech guy so can't explain this in tech terms, but tat last assumption was made on A LOT of tech sources who seem to know their stuff).]

[evil_ash_xero]

I like how the dude is wearing a Zorro mask, and the audience go "OOOH" during the boss fight.

The Japanese are a strange, yet very talented people.

s/m

[Super Laydock]

I like how the dude is wearing a Zorro mask, and the audience go "OOOH" during the boss fight.

The Japanese are a strange, yet very talented people.

s/m

I could quote that for truth!

I am in QFT rehab though, so I won't.

[Kiken]

But every one of them still doesn't look as good as GV, in my eyes. I mean, Border Down, Ikaruga, and Under Defeat all have graphics(the backgrounds) done by the same guys. It's just that the PS2 is more powerful, hence they were able to make it look a little prettier.

s/m

G.Rev worked on the backgrounds for all the games listed above.

[Strider77]

I think G5 looks better than the games on that list also... not dissing that list but I deffinately see a higher poly count if NOTHING else. But I think it's more than a higher poly count also... more effects to.

I mean when you see a zoom in of the main ship alone in G5 versus BD... there is a big bump in poly count and in texture work.

[evil_ash_xero]

But every one of them still doesn't look as good as GV, in my eyes. I mean, Border Down, Ikaruga, and Under Defeat all have graphics(the backgrounds) done by the same guys. It's just that the PS2 is more powerful, hence they were able to make it look a little prettier.

s/m

G.Rev worked on the backgrounds for all the games listed above.

\

That's exactly what I said.

s/m

[evil_ash_xero]

I think G5 looks better than the games on that list also... not dissing that list but I deffinately see a higher poly count if NOTHING else. But I think it's more than a higher poly count also... more effects to.

I mean when you see a zoom in of the main ship alone in G5 versus BD... there is a big bump in poly count and in texture work.

Yeah, I mean, it's the same type of graphics, but they're just a bit better. It seems pretty obvious to me.

Ikaruga, as nice as it looks, doesn't have any bosses that move about like GV's last boss. It just has more polygons.

s/m

[Tigershark]

Lots of moaning here. I'm surprised tbh. It's a new shooter!! History of the game aside and lineage, this still looks like a belter to me. I don't care if it doesn't look as good as BD or G5. I've pre-ordered.

TS.

[Strider77]

that's what folks do on here... bitch about anything new then go play recca with "magic grafx" glasses and drool over the visuals.

[D]

Lots of moaning here. I'm surprised tbh. It's a new shooter!! History of the game aside and lineage, this still looks like a belter to me. I don't care if it doesn't look as good as BD or G5. I've pre-ordered.

TS.

Somebody wake me up if this game has a 480p mode.

[Strider77]

Somebody wake me up if this game has a 480p mode.

LOL... you don't care anything about it if it doesn't?

[D]

Somebody wake me up if this game has a 480p mode.

LOL... you don't care anything about it if it doesn't?

Everybody should boycot it if it doesn't. It's just plain ridiculous to not include 480p. All Dreamcast games were 480p 10 freaking years agowhy not ps2? Not a big fan of thunderforce to begin with, but if they include 480p (which should have been standard since the ps2 got realesed but whatever) I'll take a look.

[Tigershark]

I find it stange that shmupping fans are so graphics orientated. I've been playing a lot of Batsugun recently and that game takes some beating. Perfect balance, gameplay and graphics. I'm sure that wasn't 480p!

I have a DC and love playing it through my PC screen. It annoys me that the PS2 doesn't have VGA but that doesn't stop me buying games for it.

[Domino]

Somebody wake me up if this game has a 480p mode.

LOL... you don't care anything about it if it doesn't?

Everybody should boycot it if it doesn't. It's just plain ridiculous to not include 480p. All Dreamcast games were 480p 10 freaking years agowhy not ps2? Not a big fan of thunderforce to begin with, but if they include 480p (which should have been standard since the ps2 got realesed but whatever) I'll take a look.

Are you sure they were 480p? I thought it was just 480VGA!!??

[D]

It's not about the graphics, just the way they are displayed, with a fuzzy misty haze, which is totally unnecesary.
I'm not going on about the resolution, just the interlaced part that just makes my blood boil.
And yes, 480vga = 480p = dreamcast.
240p, 480p, 720p, 1080p = Great
480i = insulting to humanity, so unnecesary.

[dave4shmups]

I don't suppose that there's any chance of this getting a US port? Given Sony's ten-year deal for it's systems, there would certainly be enough time to get it done.