Late to the party: Ibara

Weevus · Post by **Weevus** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:25 pm

Just got this gem for PS2 and am loving it. Seems to be a decent port and gald I got it before it goes up in price even more.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:49 pm

this game is so brutal. i want to sell it cause i absolutely suck at it, but at the same time i want to show it who's boss. it's on the rainy day pile now until i get bored of third strike again and flip my NAC back to tate.

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:10 pm

Weevus wrote:Just got this gem for PS2 and am loving it. Seems to be a decent port and gald I got it before it goes up in price even more.

nope , bad port, have you played the original?

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:02 pm

It's a bad port but it's still very playable at least. Much better than crap like the 360 port of Ikaruga.

Weevus · Post by **Weevus** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:07 pm

kernow wrote:
Weevus wrote:Just got this gem for PS2 and am loving it. Seems to be a decent port and gald I got it before it goes up in price even more.
nope , bad port, have you played the original?

kernow... sounds familiar. Used to post on a certain site?

No I haven't played the original, haven't got in to buying shmup boards. What's so bad about it?

eretsua · Post by **eretsua** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:33 pm

Weevus wrote:No I haven't played the original, haven't got in to buying shmup boards. What's so bad about it?

hi weevus, please don't open up this can of malicious worms... the complaints about the ibara port are meticulously documented elsewhere on this board, use the search function to find them if you care to know*...in the meanwhile just enjoy the game!

...oh, and welcome to the forum btw!

*looking that stuff up is educational but may also ruin your experience of the game... ignorance is bliss, i guess.

glitch · Post by **glitch** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 pm

Weevus wrote:No I haven't played the original, haven't got in to buying shmup boards. What's so bad about it?

drab blurry upscaling/filtering mostly. the PCB game looks a whole lot sharper. gameplay-wise it's mostly fine though. oh and the arrange mode inspired Ibara Black Label, which blows the PS2 arrange mode out of the water. so the PS2 game is pretty great, just don't go comparing it to either of the PCBs.

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:04 am

This thread seems like a good opportunity for me to ask: what the hell makes Ibara BL so much better than the PS2 port Arrange Mode? Last time I asked, the answer I got was basically "both are Ibara with typical Cave elements, but they're different". And that didn't really explain anything.

Weevus · Post by **Weevus** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:18 am

eretsua wrote:
Weevus wrote:No I haven't played the original, haven't got in to buying shmup boards. What's so bad about it?
hi weevus, please don't open up this can of malicious worms... the complaints about the ibara port are meticulously documented elsewhere on this board, use the search function to find them if you care to know*...in the meanwhile just enjoy the game!

...oh, and welcome to the forum btw!

*looking that stuff up is educational but may also ruin your experience of the game... ignorance is bliss, i guess.

Damn right about the ignorance is bliss part. The sad part is I really was enjoying the game until I read into it. Now I can't it doesn't have the same appeal as when I first got it.

I'm Alec · Post by **I'm Alec** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:32 am

ForceDevice wrote:This thread seems like a good opportunity for me to ask: what the hell makes Ibara BL so much better than the PS2 port Arrange Mode? Last time I asked, the answer I got was basically "both are Ibara with typical Cave elements, but they're different". And that didn't really explain anything.

without getting carried away with myself. black label has a score system which encourages both bullet grazing and playing on the highest rank. its really fucking intense. probably the most intense shooter I've ever played. I'd probably go as far as to say its my favorite Cave game.

hopefully someone else can post more, but since there probably aren't too many peoples who have played the game I can try to elaborate when I get off work if you request.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:34 am

http://www.cave-stg.com/reviews/ikbl.html

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:55 am

Thanks a lot, jpj and Alec. That was really helpful.

But it must be freaking insane to play on maximum rank for score in Ibara.

hell, playing on maximum rank just for staying alive for more than ten seconds already is.

clp · Post by **clp** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:22 am

brokenhalo wrote:this game is so brutal. i want to sell it cause i absolutely suck at it, but at the same time i want to show it who's boss. it's on the rainy day pile now until i get bored of third strike again and flip my NAC back to tate.

man sucking at a shooter is a great stage to be at because you can see progression more frequently , its the rediculous challenge of shmups thats addictive i find , makes the feeling of achievement that much more .

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:52 am

I like Arrange mode way better than BL but I guess that's just me. I don't get a hard on for grazing bullets and I prefer the whole play between constantly jacking up and cashing in on your rank.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:54 am

brokenhalo wrote:this game is so brutal. i want to sell it cause i absolutely suck at it, but at the same time i want to show it who's boss. it's on the rainy day pile now until i get bored of third strike again and flip my NAC back to tate.

QFT

and unless you have a modded/softmodded ps2 that can run the game with rekless' hex fix this is unplayable on PS2.....

the PCB is stunning.....the graphics are razor sharp, the colors are very vivid....but i dont especially like games with rank or medal chaining......i get raped...

my biggest complaint tho is the fact that there are several points where you can barely see the bullets because the bullet color is almost the same as the background....the blue triangle pattern on the first boss is a good example...almost always get smoked by the first wave of it cuz i dont see it......

i mean honestly..... light blue bullets with ever so slightly darker blue water as the background......come on cave....gimme a chance

i will stick to ikeda's games for now......

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:00 am

Run it in Extended mode, it makes those bullets red instead of blue.

Although to be honest I've never actually had much trouble with seeing bullets in this game, not like Battle Garegga or anything. I have a lot more trouble with the enemy burners and random popcorn ships running into me.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:26 am

For Weevus,

If you really want to play Ibara as it was meant to be, get a PCB kit. Your eyes will not be able to thank you enough compared to the current blurry/filtered plagued Cave/Taito PS2 port of the same name. A simple Supergun setup + analog low-res 15.7 kHz RGB monitor + Ibara PCB Kit = priceless. ^_~

Now if Cave had done their homework properly from the get-go with the port of Ibara as they did with their amazing PS2 ports of DDP-DOJ & ESPgaluda, it wouldn't have that current situation of a blurry & filtered mess. If you can only afford the PS2 port for now, then more power to you. Get a sample taste of the real deal that is the Ibara PCB iteration and you'll quickly ditch that PS2 port in a flash.

Plan on spending upwards of $270.00-$330.00 USD price range for such a brand new Ibara PCB kit is the norm these days. Of course, by picking up such an Ibara "Black Label" variant PCB, then you'd have the option of playing the original or BL version at your leisure. Be prepared to spend such a pretty penny for one, indeed.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:44 am

correct me if im wrong but cave did not make the ports....taito did

the arika ports(dai ou jou, ESPgaluda) were much better and more true to the PCB

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:30 am

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:Of course, by picking up such an Ibara "Black Label" variant PCB, then you'd have the option of playing the original or BL version at your leisure.

No, Ibara Black Label does not include the original Ibara.

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