Raiden i and II for MAME?

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:48 pm

Are there any working versions of Raiden I and II for MAME?

I have the collection for Playstation and would like to have something to play on my PC. I've never come across a working file though.

The Sheep · Post by **The Sheep** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:49 pm

Raiden I: yes,
Raiden II: no
Raiden DX: no
Raiden Fighters: yes
Raiden Fighters II: yes
Raiden Fighters Jet: yes

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:51 pm

No Raiden DX either. No one can seem to break the encryption. Though I heard something about the MAME team working on it, maybe it was around the turn of the year.

Viper Phase I also works.

BIL · Post by **BIL** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:16 pm

Raiden DX seems to run pretty well in pSX (PS1 emulator), if using that program is an option. When I tried Raiden Project in psX and ePSXe it seemed to suffer from jerky scrolling, but I didn't look into any possible fixes.

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:43 pm

Bill wrote:Raiden DX seems to run pretty well in pSX (PS1 emulator), if using that program is an option. When I tried Raiden Project in psX and ePSXe it seemed to suffer from jerky scrolling, but I didn't look into any possible fixes.

Think this is an emulation issue, I ran into the same problem myself. The music stutters slightly as well.

On an actual PSX, it runs fine.

Cromarty · Post by **Cromarty** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:15 am

Raiden II had a port to PC, if that counts.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:34 am

I've not tried a recent version, but as of a year or go the Jet series played turdy. Can anyone comment on that?

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:51 am

I think the emulation of the Fighters series was improved not that long ago. They work great, anyways. The only issue is that the sound is still not fully emulated.

t0yrobo · Post by **t0yrobo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:03 am

I'm pretty certain that the playstation version works fairly well in epsxe, although that would take up way more harddrive space than a couple mame roms.

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:08 pm

I play DX in epsxe and it's fine - especially when ramping up the graphic effects on the PC for a less pixilated and smoother experience.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:03 pm

Cromarty wrote:Raiden II had a port to PC, if that counts.

Interplay's Raiden II for the PC came out back in 1999-2000 as a budget PC software title. After buying it and opening it up, it mentions in the instructions that this particular PC CD-Rom is nothing but a port of the existing PSX game of Raiden II taken from the Raiden Project compliation disc.

The only gripe with this USA region Interplay port of Raiden II is that it still has the control issue that plagues the USA PSX version of Raiden II when playing in Tate mode, the controls are still not fixed to this day. Of course, a Gameshark code remedies that tate control issue just fine on the PSX platform but for the PC ver., Raiden II is still unplayable in Tate mode...

As a cool bonus, the Interplay Raiden II CD-Rom disc can be played in a regular music CD player as the BGM tunes are recorded in Redbook format for posterity...one can't do this with the PSX version of Raiden Project anyways. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:56 pm

and theres also Raiden 3 for PC if you want... i know most ppl here dont like it, but still, if its there, why not givin it a go?

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:06 pm

t0yrobo wrote:I'm pretty certain that the playstation version works fairly well in epsxe, although that would take up way more harddrive space than a couple mame roms.

You can play it off of the disc in epsxe, you don't have to copy an image to your hard drive.

dpful · Post by **dpful** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:22 pm

The Sheep wrote:Raiden I: yes,
Raiden II: no
Raiden DX: no
Raiden Fighters: yes
Raiden Fighters II: yes
Raiden Fighters Jet: yes

Raiden= great
raiden fighters= great
raiden fighters II= great but the sound sucks (2000 version?)
raiden fighters jet= great
viper phase 1= great (says it has graphic issues but I havn't seen them yet.

Is all this correct?

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:34 pm

The Sheep wrote: Raiden Fighters: yes
Raiden Fighters II: yes
Raiden Fighters Jet: yes

never seen a working version of any of these

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:12 pm

dpful wrote:
The Sheep wrote:Raiden I: yes,
Raiden II: no
Raiden DX: no
Raiden Fighters: yes
Raiden Fighters II: yes
Raiden Fighters Jet: yes
Raiden= great
raiden fighters= great
raiden fighters II= great but the sound sucks (2000 version?)
raiden fighters jet= great
viper phase 1= great (says it has graphic issues but I havn't seen them yet.

Is all this correct?

Viper Phase can crash your MAME sometimes... happened to me twice.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:06 am

Hardstepah wrote:
The Sheep wrote: Raiden Fighters: yes
Raiden Fighters II: yes
Raiden Fighters Jet: yes

never seen a working version of any of these

Then you're doing it wrong.

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:18 pm

doing what wrong? i just dl the roms and play what will play on mame

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:20 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:I've not tried a recent version, but as of a year or go the Jet series played turdy. Can anyone comment on that?

I thought that was when I got my 30Mil score on Jet...the game sure plays nicely now, anyway.

Control issue on your end maybe? I've had a nice system through all this time.

Hardstepah wrote:doing what wrong? i just dl the roms and play what will play on mame

Audit the ROMs, see if they're failing...or update your MAME...because they do work in the newest MAME.

p.s. MAME > FM Towns, every time (if you have a good system, that is).

dpful · Post by **dpful** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:16 am

I don't know the in's and out's of mame, one computer of mine crashes on some stuff. One computer has newest mame, current roms, and those games all seem to work. I had to try every version of each one, and only one worked of each. These one's seemed to work.
rfjet
rdft22kc
raiden
rdft
viprp1j

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:04 am

This isn't really related to the topic at hand, but i'll ask it here anyway. Has anyone here played a hack of Raiden 2?

I recently took a trip to Cali and was at the Santa Monica pier (I think that was the name). Anyway, there was an arcade there with a few good shmups. But the Raiden 2 I played had extra enemies in it. For example, in the first level there were these strange BIG tank looking enemies. Also it seemed that the placement of enemies was a bit different as well. There were some extra little tanks placed around. Also, the difficulty was turned down.

Could this perhaps be a china bootleg or something?

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:23 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:I've not tried a recent version, but as of a year or go the Jet series played turdy. Can anyone comment on that?
I thought that was when I got my 30Mil score on Jet...the game sure plays nicely now, anyway.

Control issue on your end maybe? I've had a nice system through all this time.

Hardstepah wrote:doing what wrong? i just dl the roms and play what will play on mame
Audit the ROMs, see if they're failing...or update your MAME...because they do work in the newest MAME.

p.s. MAME > FM Towns, every time (if you have a good system, that is).

actually, it doesnt really need to be the newest mame... RF and VP have been workin (i mean, really playable, since they used to wrok b4, but you couldnt see shit!...) in mame since version 0.98 (or even an older one), which was released like 2 years ago or so... you just need the correct romset and you're all set.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:52 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I've not tried a recent version, but as of a year or go the Jet series played turdy. Can anyone comment on that?

WIP from MAWS:

WIP:

* 0.119u4: Couriersud added to clone Raiden Fighters Jet (US, Single Board) a hack to enable Test-Switch to enter testmode if no nvram exists.
* 0.115: Aaron Giles fixed debug build crashes in clone (US, Single Board).
* 0.114u2: Couriersud fixed NVRAM in clone (US, Single Board).
* 0.112u1: Ville Linde fixed uninitialized use of video_dma_address to address the Raiden Fighters Jet crashed in 64-bit builds.
* 0.93u2: Added clone Raiden Fighters Jet (Japan).
* 0.93: Nicola Salmoria decrypted the graphics in all SPI games. Raiden Fighters Jet is now playable.
* 24th February 2005: Guru - Raiden Fighters Jet (single board version) arrived, purchased by Randy on eBay. Thanks to all that chipped-in for donations.
* 0.88u4: Added clones Raiden Fighters Jet (US) and (ASIAN). Incomplete tile/sprite decryption.
* 8th November 2004: Guru - Raiden Fighters Jet (US version, Seibu 1998) arrived. Thanks to RB!
* 0.88u3: J. Rodman added clone Raiden Fighters Jet (US, Single Board).
* 0.88u2: Added Raiden Fighters Jet (Seibu Kaihatsu 1998). Encrypted gfx.
* 30th October 2004: David Haywood - Raiden Fighters Jet uses a different encryption to both rf and rf2 so it doesn't look too pretty when put in the spi driver for now, I wouldn't really call this WIP since no progress has been made.
* 29th October 2004: Guru - Raiden Fighters Jet (Seibu/Tuning 1998) arrived as a eBay purchases.

Looks like there's been a bit of work on it recently-ish.

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:20 pm

elvis wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:I've not tried a recent version, but as of a year or go the Jet series played turdy. Can anyone comment on that?
WIP from MAWS:

WIP:

* 0.119u4: Couriersud added to clone Raiden Fighters Jet (US, Single Board) a hack to enable Test-Switch to enter testmode if no nvram exists.
* 0.115: Aaron Giles fixed debug build crashes in clone (US, Single Board).
* 0.114u2: Couriersud fixed NVRAM in clone (US, Single Board).
* 0.112u1: Ville Linde fixed uninitialized use of video_dma_address to address the Raiden Fighters Jet crashed in 64-bit builds.
* 0.93u2: Added clone Raiden Fighters Jet (Japan).
* 0.93: Nicola Salmoria decrypted the graphics in all SPI games. Raiden Fighters Jet is now playable.
* 24th February 2005: Guru - Raiden Fighters Jet (single board version) arrived, purchased by Randy on eBay. Thanks to all that chipped-in for donations.
* 0.88u4: Added clones Raiden Fighters Jet (US) and (ASIAN). Incomplete tile/sprite decryption.
* 8th November 2004: Guru - Raiden Fighters Jet (US version, Seibu 1998) arrived. Thanks to RB!
* 0.88u3: J. Rodman added clone Raiden Fighters Jet (US, Single Board).
* 0.88u2: Added Raiden Fighters Jet (Seibu Kaihatsu 1998). Encrypted gfx.
* 30th October 2004: David Haywood - Raiden Fighters Jet uses a different encryption to both rf and rf2 so it doesn't look too pretty when put in the spi driver for now, I wouldn't really call this WIP since no progress has been made.
* 29th October 2004: Guru - Raiden Fighters Jet (Seibu/Tuning 1998) arrived as a eBay purchases.
Looks like there's been a bit of work on it recently-ish.

and here i was sayin it was on version 0.98 when it was in version 0.93 (like a year older!)... i wasnt that wrong anyway. thx for the detailed info.

A_Civilian · Post by **A_Civilian** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:09 pm

AFXisatwin wrote:But the Raiden 2 I played had extra enemies in it. For example, in the first level there were these strange BIG tank looking enemies. Also it seemed that the placement of enemies was a bit different as well. There were some extra little tanks placed around. Also, the difficulty was turned down.

Could this perhaps be a china bootleg or something?

There's two PCBs of the game actually.

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:16 pm

Thats mighty interesting. But I don't understand why. Did Seibu put out both versions?

If I ever get back to that arcade I'll be sure to play it again and try to get farther. I only made it to the second stage then went on to play 19xx.

Wait, are you just telling me there is raiden 2 and raiden dx? This def wasn't DX

zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:50 am

NO, there are definitely two version of raiden II old ver and new version. i think most people like old ver best.

Milkgoat · Post by **Milkgoat** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:26 am

zaphod wrote:NO, there are definitely two version of raiden II old ver and new version. i think most people like old ver best.

What's the difference between the two?

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:47 am

i can't get the Raiden Fighters games out of the update mode, even if i tinker with the dipswitches in mame. how can i fix that?
PS: i just got a standup cab with raiden II for 90€ off ebay. yay!

spongdangly · Post by **spongdangly** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:00 am

Jockel wrote:i can't get the Raiden Fighters games out of the update mode, even if i tinker with the dipswitches in mame. how can i fix that?

You have to let the countdown timer reach 0 from 999, I think it displays a message saying that it's done afterwards. The next time you boot up the rom it'll work like normal.

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