Raiden Fighters Compilation heading to the Xbox 360

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:57 am

question:
i dont have a japanese X360... actually, im still thinkin on adquiring a X360, and my best chances (in case i decide to buy one) is to get an american one...

so, do you guys think that if i happened to mod that american X360, will i be able to play this one on it?... cuz if so, i might buy one, mod it, and hope to import ketsui when the time comes!...

jp · Post by jp » Fri May 30, 2008 1:54 pm

As far as I know right now your best bet would be to just get a Japanese one man.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri May 30, 2008 2:24 pm

EOJ wrote:@prof G: yeah, I got a new Arcade model a few weeks ago, manufactured in 2/2008. You can tell if you have a BenQ drive by looking at the photo comparison on this page:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/Xbox_360_ ... arison.htm

Thanks for that link. As soon as I am able, I want to double check, but I'm confident I must have the same one as you-- I got mine from P-A pretty recently.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Fri May 30, 2008 2:45 pm

Kaspal wrote:so, do you guys think that if i happened to mod that american X360, will i be able to play this one on it?... cuz if so, i might buy one, mod it, and hope to import ketsui when the time comes!...

If you mod it, when you take it online they will find out and ban you from live. So no leaderboards or anything.

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Fri May 30, 2008 6:00 pm

DJ Incompetent wrote:
Kaspal wrote:so, do you guys think that if i happened to mod that american X360, will i be able to play this one on it?... cuz if so, i might buy one, mod it, and hope to import ketsui when the time comes!...
If you mod it, when you take it online they will find out and ban you from live. So no leaderboards or anything.

now that sux big time!... gettin an J-X360 its kinda impossible for me... i guess in the end, i wont even buy the console then.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:03 pm

be patient until the newer models come out towards the end of the year. Price drops.

Also- a J model isn't that much different in price that an american one- a modded american one at that.

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Sat May 31, 2008 2:47 pm

Modded 360s don't do shit apart from let you pirate games, sorry.

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:38 pm

Erinu wrote:Modded 360s don't do shit apart from let you pirate games, sorry.

really?... and here i was hoping to install some MAME in it, and play some ROMs on the TV!... heck!... i guess i'll pass on it for now then.

thx for the info guys.

kennyrh · Post by **kennyrh** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:45 pm

Does the fact that Jap 360 shmups are being region-locked indicate that they were/are being considered for a Western release ??

I only ask because I've seen region-free copies of Senko no Ronde from Eastern sellers on ebay and that game did get released in USA/UK.

And maybe I've answered my own question . . .

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:18 pm

the region lockin for game SUX!!!... i mean, in the DVDs and shit, its ok (barely), since if i really wanna watch an asian only released movie, theres always ways of "unlockin'em", but with games is just and plain silly... actually, everykind of region lockin its silly from my POV.

i mean, they're lookin to sell their stuff right?... so in the end, it doesnt really matter (for us) if the movie or game was released here or in japan, since we can always import or whatever... but from their pov it doesnt work like that, so, basically, ewe're screwed.

call me back when theres a homebrew mame for the console, im all in then... for now, i dont think so (importing a jap. console its a no-no for me, thats why i modded my PS2, to avoid importing a jap. console).

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:02 pm

It does matter to companies like sony, nintendo and microsoft. Oh, how they love to gouge prices.

Motorherp · Post by **Motorherp** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:24 pm

Yeah I know it sucks but please get real. The problem is that each region has different legislation and approval processes for game media which is time consuming and costly to go through .... and that's only part of the story. Making releases for different regions would also require localisation which means more development time as well as having to go through the whole quality assurance and testing procedures again for each region. Again very time consuming and costly. If said title isn't anticipated to make enough of a return in that region to make the whole process profitable then why would any sane minded business do it?

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:24 am

Motorherp wrote:Yeah I know it sucks but please get real. The problem is that each region has different legislation and approval processes for game media which is time consuming and costly to go through .... and that's only part of the story. Making releases for different regions would also require localisation which means more development time as well as having to go through the whole quality assurance and testing procedures again for each region. Again very time consuming and costly. If said title isn't anticipated to make enough of a return in that region to make the whole process profitable then why would any sane minded business do it?

while all you said its totally true, i'd like to disgress some:

the legislation and all that shit its true ... but still, why region lockin the game?... leave it to the customers if they want to import the game they want or not...

most of the time, we play japanese games, for whatever reason, and we have to import it, or pirate it, or whatever, but we TAKE our chances there, no laws, legislations nor shit involved, we just want to play the damn games.

they can still sell the game in certain market w/o region lockin the game, so no localizations, QA nor other stuff involved... now, if they plan to release the game in another market, cool, do what its needed to do so, but again, for me, theres no real need of region lockin... wether you're plannin on releasin in different markets or not.

in my case, i happened to study japanese, cuz i wanted to understand the games i played the most... doujin (shmup) games and Nihon Falcom J-RPGs (like the Ys saga, Eiyuu Densetsu saga, or more recently, Genso Sangokushi saga), and with those, even tho they're for the japanese market only, i happen to import them, just to enjoy them... like i said, i take my chances there, cuz all i want is to enjoy the games i like.

some games doesnt make it out of the japanese (or whatever) market, and some of those are pretty good... why forbiddin ppl of playin them with the region locks?, after all, if they buy their copy, its more income for the devs, producers, distributors and so on... right?

Syndicate · Post by **Syndicate** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:03 am

Goddamn region locked games and no freaking 360 Free Loader!

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:11 pm

Just fucking email UFO and ask them if they plan to bring it here.

RuffNEC · Post by **RuffNEC** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:43 pm

Just bought a Japanese Xbox 360 Arcade edition with memory unit and RFA!

I've recovered my european Gamertag with the NTSC-J 360 via live onto my memory unit. Now I've gained 10G from RFA.

What will happend if I want to connect with my european Console ? Do I have the gamerscore there? Do I see that I've played the RFA game ?

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:49 pm

RuffNEC wrote:Just bought a Japanese Xbox 360 Arcade edition with memory unit and RFA!

I've recovered my european Gamertag with the NTSC-J 360 via live onto my memory unit. Now I've gained 10G from RFA.

What will happend if I want to connect with my european Console ? Do I have the gamerscore there? Do I see that I've played the RFA game ?

yea I think it should, actually I'd expect that if you have your gamertag on a memory unit, you should be able to sign in with that gamertag on any console (by using the MU)

RuffNEC · Post by **RuffNEC** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:50 pm

kemical wrote:
RuffNEC wrote:Just bought a Japanese Xbox 360 Arcade edition with memory unit and RFA!

I've recovered my european Gamertag with the NTSC-J 360 via live onto my memory unit. Now I've gained 10G from RFA.

What will happend if I want to connect with my european Console ? Do I have the gamerscore there? Do I see that I've played the RFA game ?
yea I think it should, actually I'd expect that if you have your gamertag on a memory unit, you should be able to sign in with that gamertag on any console,.

Yes but on the japenese console I just play the RFA Game. For downloading Xbox Live Games and saving Games I wanna us the Harddisk on the PAL BOX.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:03 pm

Try it and see what happens, I know I'm able to download demos on friend's consoles by just bringing my memory unit and signing into my profile on their console. I'm not sure if it would be different between regions, but I don't see why it would be. Also, you can put the HDD on any console, I don't know if any region information is stored on it but you could try plugging it into your JPN region console, I've done this before with no problems on same-region consoles (signing in and downloading to hdd on a different console with no special steps).

RuffNEC · Post by **RuffNEC** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:54 am

I don't want to change the HD everytime. How does it works with the memory unit?

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:38 pm

Could you not just try it and find out?

Swapping the HDD doesn't take any more physical energy than swapping a memory card over. I'd imagine that's how everybody else here is doing things.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:33 pm

Ahhh shit, my Japanese 360 just red ringed on me.

RuffNEC · Post by **RuffNEC** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:07 pm

Well I have the profile now on the Memory Unit. You can't copy a profile just move.

I think the marketplace informations are saved on the hdd(memory unit) itself and can't be copied or moved so there is no need to swap hdd for playing imported japanese games.

@hermosaguy

did you bought a new ARCADE Edition with HDMI out? or an older one? how much did you play with it? which games?

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:24 pm

RuffNEC wrote:Well I have the profile now on the Memory Unit. You can't copy a profile just move.

I think the marketplace informations are saved on the hdd(memory unit) itself and can't be copied or moved so there is no need to swap hdd for playing imported japanese games.

@hermosaguy

did you bought a new ARCADE Edition with HDMI out? or an older one? how much did you play with it? which games?

It lasted me a good 3 years, so no HDMI. I ran it into the ground, since Halo 2 and Halo 3 weren't region locked. I'm not sure if I can get it fixed in the states (still not sure what the final answer was on that thread) so I'll have a guy here in L.A. do it for $40. Keeping my fingers crossed...

RuffNEC · Post by **RuffNEC** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:38 am

damn. the GAME just froze on the airplane level in the clouds in RFJ. I assume I'm not that the only one having a freeze in RFJ here

burnsro · Post by **burnsro** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:14 pm

RuffNEC wrote:damn. the GAME just froze on the airplane level in the clouds in RFJ. I assume I'm not that the only one having a freeze in RFJ here

Hm. I've had games freeze on me before on the 360 like DOA4 and Lost Planet. I wouldn't assume it's the game's fault until it happens more than once.

RuffNEC · Post by **RuffNEC** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:44 pm

burnsro wrote:
RuffNEC wrote:damn. the GAME just froze on the airplane level in the clouds in RFJ. I assume I'm not that the only one having a freeze in RFJ here
Hm. I've had games freeze on me before on the 360 like DOA4 and Lost Planet. I wouldn't assume it's the game's fault until it happens more than once.

well RFA has indeed some bugs. Success is about to fix them and release a patch for the game as it was mentioned in their blog in early may.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:46 pm

E. Randy Dupre wrote:Could you not just try it and find out?

Swapping the HDD doesn't take any more physical energy than swapping a memory card over. I'd imagine that's how everybody else here is doing things.

swapping hard drives is the last thing you want to do with microsofts DRM set-up. it locks all your xbla games so that you can only play them if you are currently connected to the internet (for license authentication purposes). might not seem like a big deal, but you'll be pissed when your internet drops off for a moment while you're in the middle of setting the new world record in geometry wars.

saving profile to memory card seems to be the best bet.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:54 pm

I'm still waiting on this damn patch. The music dropping out and crashes are beginning to really annoy me!

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:31 pm

brokenhalo wrote:swapping hard drives is the last thing you want to do with microsofts DRM set-up. it locks all your xbla games so that you can only play them if you are currently connected to the internet (for license authentication purposes). might not seem like a big deal, but you'll be pissed when your internet drops off for a moment while you're in the middle of setting the new world record in geometry wars.

That's only true if you try playing them offline on the console that you didn't originally download them through. Plug the HDD back into the original console and you can play them fine, online or offline. So that's the simple answer to that problem - only download and play XBLA games through your original, non-JPN machine.

The Sega releases and THE are a different matter, presumably because the teams responsible fucked up the implementation of the DRM stuff in those cases. They're the exception, though, and MS have said that there'll be a fix to sort out DRM issues within the next system update.