Are there any good shmups for the pc?

Ligersknight · Post by **Ligersknight** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:11 pm

I was searching for good shmups for the pc but i cant find much. does anybody know of a good one? (excluding touhou and shikigami series).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:18 pm

Raptor...? Kidding...though it's a nostalgic fav for me...

Warning Forever comes to mind.

As does stuff from the shoot the core PC Database

Marcel1CC · Post by **Marcel1CC** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:24 pm

blue wish resurrection plus is great!

worstplayer · Post by **worstplayer** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:00 pm

Raiden 3, Ether Vapor, Blue Wish, Exception, Cho Ren Sha, Exceed, Samidare... there are hundreds of good PC shmups (and thousands of not-so-good ones

)

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:07 pm

Zeberdeey wrote:blue wish resurrection plus is great!

How did I manage to forget that one... also, XOP Black is decent though its patterns lack any sense of well...sense...

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:10 pm

Major Stryker!

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:33 pm

yalkinaSTG
cho-ren-sha
DemolitionGunner 2
idinaloq
ganganExtend
XED
Sdmkun
BlueWishResurrection
RallyRaid
EdensAegis

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:33 pm

Warning Forever, the only shmup in which I actually like fighting bosses lol

And Kamui, which is... well... amazing.

There might be more, but I can't remember right now. Then again, I never looked too much into PC shmups... MAME and PS2 were enough for me. :3

EDIT: And how could I forget... check out the Knight of Cancer demo.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:36 pm

Xenon 2. It exists even in Hercules and came out when all those Cave things were a distant memory... OF THE FUTURE

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:45 pm

All shmups by Kenta Cho

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:59 pm

P_HAT wrote:All shmups by Kenta Cho

If you like the RNG turned up to 11 ..

I've played lots of PC shooters and the only one I could really get into was BWR Plus. Everything else didn't have enough going for it .. CRS68k had no score system from what I could tell, Warning Forever got boring, and I can't stand Touhou's 5 minute boss fights, with bosses that are little girls in maid dresses. :/

Marcel1CC · Post by **Marcel1CC** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:04 pm

cloudphobia is also not bad. freeware. http://www.dwahan.net/uki/

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:05 pm

Hulkcore wrote:also, XOP Black is decent though its patterns lack any sense of well...sense...

You should get back to work on your shmup/RPG hybrid, with that awesome 'random number decides if you get killed by a bullet when hit' feature.

Shocky · Post by **Shocky** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:20 pm

+ The Reap, Jets'n'Guns, Prototype, Tyrian, Steel Saviour... + some great borderliners like Silpheed and Novastorm.

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:28 pm

hellsinker dawg

Aba'suto · Post by **Aba'suto** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:37 pm

Zeberdeey wrote:blue wish resurrection plus is great!

Ditto.

I also love this game because the Heaven mode (especially with accel off ) is perfect for noobs at manic shooters, like myself, to get use to them.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:48 pm

Udderdude wrote:
Hulkcore wrote:also, XOP Black is decent though its patterns lack any sense of well...sense...
You should get back to work on your shmup/RPG hybrid, with that awesome 'random number decides if you get killed by a bullet when hit' feature. :P

Nah, it should have Garegga like rank features.

High level = enemy bullets have an aura
No bomb use = enemies have charge attacks and use screen clearing bombs

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:42 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
Udderdude wrote:
Hulkcore wrote:also, XOP Black is decent though its patterns lack any sense of well...sense...
You should get back to work on your shmup/RPG hybrid, with that awesome 'random number decides if you get killed by a bullet when hit' feature.
Nah, it should have Garegga like rank features.

High level = enemy bullets have an aura
No bomb use = enemies have charge attacks and use screen clearing bombs

1.) I still work on it when I can find the time.
2.) That feature, though terribly misrepresented/understood by that statement is already implemented and working fine.
3.) I really like XOP Black and play it quite a bit, I just find that the slow, round bullets tend to seem aimless and random. It makes the patterns all muddle together until it feels like I'm just dodging randomly generated blobs. It's still a very fun game though. I guess next time someone asks for good pc shmups I won't recommend it? Is that what you wanted?
4.) No ranks, just character and enemy levels.
5.) There's no bombs in my game, so that wouldn't be applicable.

6.) Back on topic, MAME?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:44 am

I was working off Udderdude's statement for a cheap laugh...when your game comes out I'll have to try it out!

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:53 am

PC Shmups? Here's a few I enjoyed...

Raptor: Call of the Shadows
Silpheed
Steel Savior
Warning Forever
Tyrian 2000
Raiden III
Jets 'N Guns
Idinaloq
Cho Ren Sha
G-Type (R-Type meets Gradius... quite cool)
Psyche Metal: The Bleeding

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:21 am

ETHER VAPOR

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:20 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:I was working off Udderdude's statement for a cheap laugh...when your game comes out I'll have to try it out!

I just thought I would take care of two posts in one and reply to both of you at once, though the chance that my game will actually come out ever is rather slim.

On Topic: it's been a long while since I played it, but wasn't Zone 66 shmuplike? If I remember correct it was top-down but was free roaming...

Also, Chain is a rather unique/fun shmup that gets somewhat old after awhile. But it's free and is different. In fact, I'm going to go use it procrastinate instead of doing my homework.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:07 am

I like Xed
you can turn bullets into ikaruga homing lasers OMG
also it has cool bosses

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:53 am

Hulkcore wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:I was working off Udderdude's statement for a cheap laugh...when your game comes out I'll have to try it out! :D
I just thought I would take care of two posts in one and reply to both of you at once, though the chance that my game will actually come out ever is rather slim.

Vapor...ware? :(

seiatsu · Post by **seiatsu** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:09 am

I can't believe only one mention for Kamui...awesome game. (although the laser can make it easy at times)

Here's my list:

Ether Vapor
rRootage (and other Kenta Cho/ABA games)
Cho Ren Sha
Shoot The Bullet
Kamui
Imperishable Night

I like BWR too but barely played it. I'm sure there is more but I'm not much of a PC player

And there is always emulation which gets you almost any game you want

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:15 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
Hulkcore wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:I was working off Udderdude's statement for a cheap laugh...when your game comes out I'll have to try it out!
I just thought I would take care of two posts in one and reply to both of you at once, though the chance that my game will actually come out ever is rather slim.
Vapor...ware?

I feel confident that I'll have a demo out before Duke Nukem Forever if that's what you need to know...assuming I find someone to make some halfway decent art at some point.

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:57 am

Hulkcore wrote: 3.) I really like XOP Black and play it quite a bit, I just find that the slow, round bullets tend to seem aimless and random. It makes the patterns all muddle together until it feels like I'm just dodging randomly generated blobs. It's still a very fun game though. I guess next time someone asks for good pc shmups I won't recommend it? Is that what you wanted?

Sorry, was just kidding with my original comment

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:54 pm

Udderdude wrote:
Hulkcore wrote: 3.) I really like XOP Black and play it quite a bit, I just find that the slow, round bullets tend to seem aimless and random. It makes the patterns all muddle together until it feels like I'm just dodging randomly generated blobs. It's still a very fun game though. I guess next time someone asks for good pc shmups I won't recommend it? Is that what you wanted?
Sorry, was just kidding with my original comment

No worries.

Elaphe · Post by **Elaphe** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:03 pm

Let me recommend Trouble Witches and Bike Banditz.

As far as vertical games, there are also many good examples. Apart from many doujin games, you have the 3 Shikigami no Shiro titles, for instance. Visit this forum where I posted many videos of doujin games I've tried.

http://www.vandal.net/foro/1/277311/pos ... s-fans/41/

Of course, you can play the best shmups ever in MAME, including very recent games. And there are still many to be emulated in the future!

Finally, try Raycrisis. I've spent many many hours with this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO5wYx4U24k

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:12 pm

don't forget SnS, SnS 2 and SnS3