As much as I dislike modern games...

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:11 pm

...but I just came

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM0bY_IFoes

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:23 pm

I'm with you regarding modern games, however we're clearly pushing toward a point where games can create a world of real physics and everything can be manipulated realistically. It is a rather exciting prospect, but I don't know what the actual game would look like.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:18 pm

Not bad, but this isn't running in realtime, and the boxes don't break.

I'm not a fan of first person shooters, but I wouldn't mind a game with a realistic environment in which you can actually destroy everything, for instance blast holes into walls and walk through them, or even make entire buildings collapse. And there needs to be rubble. I hate it when I destroy something in a fps and nothing remains. Even more annoying: FPS in which can't even shoot open a door or climb over a fence.

Cromarty · Post by **Cromarty** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:39 pm

Ceph wrote:I'm not a fan of first person shooters, but I wouldn't mind a game with a realistic environment in which you can actually destroy everything, for instance blast holes into walls and walk through them, or even make entire buildings collapse.

Red Faction did that, to some extent. I don't remember it being very useful for anything after the early part of the game though.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:48 pm

Not bad, but this isn't running in realtime,

It's a moot point for this demo. The cool factor is the physics, not the graphics. I quite enjoyed it. Looks like you can have some fun blowing stuff up.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:01 pm

I could say something about graphics vs gameplay here, but nah.

All I'm saying is: this is very close to crossing the line.

indstr · Post by **indstr** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:15 pm

Cromarty wrote: Red Faction did that, to some extent. I don't remember it being very useful for anything after the early part of the game though.

some of the deathmatch levels had you start in isolated jail cells and you had to break through the walls to find each other

UnscathedFlyingObject · Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:03 pm

The odds of 5000 falling barrels hitting you = 0%

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:25 pm

Did anyone else find @1:19 borderline offensive?

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:09 pm

Ceph wrote:I'm not a fan of first person shooters, but I wouldn't mind a game with a realistic environment in which you can actually destroy everything, for instance blast holes into walls and walk through them, or even make entire buildings collapse. And there needs to be rubble. I hate it when I destroy something in a fps and nothing remains. Even more annoying: FPS in which can't even shoot open a door or climb over a fence.

Cool, yes. But the issues this brings up for developers who just want to tell a story with a controlled narrative would be overwhelming.

The solution? Make a game called Supreme Destruction 20XX where the goal is to blow up everything.

heavymetalme · Post by **heavymetalme** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:46 pm

Awesome.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:58 pm

Did anyone else find @1:19 borderline offensive?

haha- didn't get what you meant until I watched it again. To answer your question- not in the slightest : )

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:18 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj6VOw3ez2s

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:01 pm

Wooden boxes actually do break in-game. Most buildings are also destructible. It's entirely possible to punch a whole in a wall and walk through it, or to cause a building to collapse on top of enemies.

Crysis is actually an amazing game. Anyone saying that it's a case of graphics over gameplay, you must not have played it, because it offers really good gameplay too. You have complete freedom to complete your objectives in any way you want. You can approach or bypass enemy encampments in any way you wish, and utilize vehicles in creative ways (one of my favorites is to go invisible, drive a vehicle into the middle of some enemies, get out, and then blow up the vehicle when they all gather around it in confusion). Because of the engine, you really have a lot of options for playing creatively and this makes you feel a lot more involved in the game, because the progression is based on your own decisions. Each time you play is different. Crysis legitimately offers what Bioshock promised but failed to deliver, which is non script based gameplay where you are interacting with the AI and the physics engine more than anything else, and which is based on how you want to play instead of how the developer wants you to play.

Besides, what other game lets you kill someone by throwing a live chicken at their head?

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:55 am

Crysis was very VERY fun.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:39 am

Your mom was very fun.

p.s. there's already been a JFK shooting simulator game, why should hitting some boxes with a couple explosives be offensive?

Also, Battlefield: Bad Company's "lol let's shoot a giant gasoline tank and see what happens" demo was much cooler, in my view. That explosion demolished all the houses on their demo map.