Raiden Fighters Compilation heading to the Xbox 360

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:05 am

Fortunately, they do~

Breaking a US console in Japan, on the other hand, unless you mail to Microsoft's North American Xbox division through APO/FPO (and you must be at least a military dependent) will not be covered under warranty.

The North American Xbox division people are pretty nice.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:10 am

Rob wrote:
Erinu wrote:I hope they won't.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:42 am

Twiddle wrote:The North American Xbox division people are pretty nice.

Oh, did you talk to them? That's great news!

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:43 am

Twiddle wrote:The North American Xbox division people are pretty nice.

This kid is a riot.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:14 am

Also- do we have a definitive "if a JP console breaks in the US- it gets replaced with a JP console"?

that's exactly what they did for my friend shayla.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:36 pm

But that's just for the US, right? What about Europe, Australia and NZ?

I find it very hard to believe that they would do something like that. Everyone I've spoken to who's had to deal with Microsoft and lives in the states have had a lengthy ordeal trying to get their console/s repaired, and that's just for a replacement of the same type.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:04 pm

Zebra Airforce wrote:
Twiddle wrote:The North American Xbox division people are pretty nice.
Oh, did you talk to them? That's great news!

They're way better than the people handling Windows XP product activation keys.

Erinu wrote:
Twiddle wrote:The North American Xbox division people are pretty nice.
This kid is a riot.

Europe isn't North America. I know they're still baka gaijin (white people in japanesu), but it just isn't. And it's standard operating procedure to replace a case that's been modified or tarnished, in the case of the guy who had a bunch of Bungie signatures on his 360 (and got them again without a hitch.)

Etrian wrote:But that's just for the US, right? What about Europe, Australia and NZ?

I find it very hard to believe that they would do something like that. Everyone I've spoken to who's had to deal with Microsoft and lives in the states have had a lengthy ordeal trying to get their console/s repaired, and that's just for a replacement of the same type.

They do that because they have the consoles on hand, and apparently NA assumes people immigrate. I'd rather have 2 to 3 months to wait for a console then spending 3 hours on the phone being accused of pirating/breaking the EULA transferring my XP OEM key to another computer.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:33 am

Twiddle wrote:They do that because they have the consoles on hand, and apparently NA assumes people immigrate. I'd rather have 2 to 3 months to wait for a console then spending 3 hours on the phone being accused of pirating/breaking the EULA transferring my XP OEM key to another computer.

It's possible. I guess that's just for the US..

Anyway, my copy arrived today. All achievements are in English, so here goes:

First Stage (10 points)
Completed Stage 1 (any games or difficulties)

Completed (RF1) (20 points)
Completed NORMAL Mode of RF1 (with Continue, any difficulties)

Completed (RF2) (20 points)
Completed NORMAL Mode of RF2 (with Continue, any difficulties)

Completed (RFJ) (20 points)
Completed NORMAL Mode of RFJ (with Continue, any difficulties)

One coin (RF1) (50 points)
Completed NORMAL Mode of RF1 without Continue (any difficulties)

One coin (RF2) (50 points)
Completed NORMAL Mode of RF2 without Continue (any difficulties)

One coin (RFJ) (50 points)
Completed NORMAL Mode of RFJ without Continue (any difficulties)

Boss Rush Mode (RF1) (40 points)
Completed Boss Rush Mode of RF1 (with Continue, any difficulties)

Boss Rush Mode (RF2) (40 points)
Completed Boss Rush Mode of RF2 (with Continue, any difficulties)

Boss Rush Mode (RFJ) (40 poitns)
Completed Boss Rush Mode of RFJ (with Continue, any difficulties)

Expert Mode (RF1) (40 points)
Completed Expert Mode of RF1 (with Continue, any difficulties)

Expert Mode (RF2) (40 points)
Completed Expert Mode of RF2 (with Continue, any difficulties)

Expert Mode (RFJ) (40 points)
Completed Expert Mode of RFJ (with Continue, any difficulties)

Score 10,000,000 (30 points)
Acquired score 10,000,000 over (difficulty : NORMAL or above)

Score 50,000,000 (40 points)
Acquired score 50,000,000 over (difficulty : NORMAL or above)

Score 100,000,000 (50 points)
Acquired score 100,000,000 over (difficulty : NORMAL or above)

Friendship (20 points)
Completed a stage with co-op play (any games, areas, difficulties)

Miclus Hunter (30 points)
Made more than 100 Micluses appeared (through the games)

Fairy Guardian (30 points)
Acquired more than 100 Fairies (through the games)

Medal Collector (50 points)
Acquired more than 100 medals of score 100,000 (through the games)

Allrounder (10 points)
Played by all the fighters (including the hidden fighters, RF1 to RFJ, no need to complete)

Bonus Chain (30 points)
Raised to the maximum level of the power of Bonus Chain (only for RFJ)

Almost Master (50 points)
Marked score 10,000,000 over for the bonuses (through the games)

Quick and Dead (50 points)
Marked score 10,000,000 over for the quick shot bonuses (through the games)

Plus 8 secret achievements which I don't know what they are.

The "EXTRA" menu in this game also allows you to choose different ships for the various games (as in, type), which I can only assume is from the different arcade variations that each game was given.

Love to stay and chat, but I'm off to play now.

subcons · Post by **subcons** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:21 pm

Etrian wrote:Plus 8 secret achievements which I don't know what they are.

Raiden Fighters Aces Achievements List

Secret ones are down at the bottom there. The “Shot Down” one is peculiar. You don't get any points for it apparently.

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:55 pm

Oh, I quite like joke/punishment achievements - it'd be nice if more games included them. A couple of other games have something similar to that, then there are the DoA4 ('Lost five matches in a row = 0 points") and Bullet Witch ("Insane difficulty complete = 1 point") ones.

As far as MS replacing Japanese units with Japanese units goes, why not give them a ring or email and ask, see what response you get? I'm holding off on doing so myself, because I don't want to tempt fate.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:31 pm

Twiddle wrote:They do that because they have the consoles on hand, and apparently NA assumes people immigrate. I'd rather have 2 to 3 months to wait for a console then spending 3 hours on the phone being accused of pirating/breaking the EULA transferring my XP OEM key to another computer.

This post gave me an idea:

Region locking games could be an idea to move more 360s via importing to westerners. Obviously, Erinyes/Erifu fell for it already.

Joke achievements are alright; I never got the Purple Heart in Battlefield 2 (5 kills / 20 deaths), which was consistently a source of a little bit of pride.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:47 pm

Battlesmurf wrote:
Yeah, the price at Play-Asia just went up on the 360 Arcade version, no doubt thanks to the high yen. I managed to get one before the price went up. It's really nice, with HDMI output. Shiki 3 barely strains it. If you limit yourself to 30-minute gaming sessions, it'll last for years and years.
I've been through several US systems already- one I babied the crap out of- it didn't last any longer than one that I earned around 18k gamerscore points on.

That being said- I wish you the best of luck!

Also- do we have a definitive "if a JP console breaks in the US- it gets replaced with a JP console"?

Do you have one now? I wonder if the US Arcade 360's are more durable; you should be able to play a console for longer then 30 minute spurts. I'd love to get a 360, but any one would look like crap on my standard def TV.

Plenty of gamers I talk to have no idea what Raiden is beyond Mortal Kombat, (until I mention the word "shooter", and then some still don't!) but UFO still might bring this over, which would rock!

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:02 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Obviously, Erinyes/Erifu fell for it already.

So I'm supposed to feel bad that I pay half price or less on 360 games, and don't have to wait 6 months for them to come out in the UK?

Yeah, right.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:13 pm

subcons wrote:
Etrian wrote:Plus 8 secret achievements which I don't know what they are.
Raiden Fighters Aces Achievements List

Secret ones are down at the bottom there. The “Shot Down” one is peculiar. You don't get any points for it apparently.

If you did, people would deliberately kill themselves over and over for points. Which is really pointless.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:33 pm

Erinu wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:Obviously, Erinyes/Erifu fell for it already.
So I'm supposed to feel bad that I pay half price or less on 360 games, and don't have to wait 6 months for them to come out in the UK?

Yeah, right.

Okay, I admit I was just splashing some random uncalled-for haterade your way. I wouldn't want to guilt trip you over making that choice.

I still think you should call yourself Erinyes, though it doesn't really fit your personality. I also still think that I could be right about the reason for region locking 360 games; it seems like at least a factor in that decision.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:02 am

Where can I buy myself a JPN Xbox360 Elite from?

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:22 am

I'm not sure if this is a big deal but.. I've played this 3 times, and all 3 times it's randomly and completely frozen for no reason, forcing me to turn my 360 off.

I wasn't going to worry about it but it's done it three times now. It's strange, because it isn't happening with my other 360 games whatsoever, and my RFA disc is flawless.

If this happens again, I'll mention it.

In other news.. I'm rank 11th on Xbox Live for one of the ships. According to Xbox Live, there's only around 800 people ranked, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if this sold under 5000 copies at launch.

Can someone tell me how you unlock the fairy as a playable character in RF2? Thanks.

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:24 am

Lawfer wrote:Where can I buy myself a JPN Xbox360 Elite from?

Yes-Asia or Play-Asia seem to be the most reliable. If you sign up at StrikeBang, you can get a $10 off coupon.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:38 am

Erinu wrote:
Lawfer wrote:Where can I buy myself a JPN Xbox360 Elite from?
Yes-Asia or Play-Asia seem to be the most reliable. If you sign up at StrikeBang, you can get a $10 off coupon.

Play-Asia:

Out of print / Out of stock: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bq- ... -244a.html

Out of print / Out of stock: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bq- ... -26ga.html

Yes Asia:

No Xbox360 Elite JPN

Devil May Cry 4 Premium Pack: http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.as ... 005178738/ 599$ :/

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:58 pm

Ok, now I'm worried. The game has just frozen on me for the fourth time for absolutely no reason, in a random spot. I'm guessing that the disc might be faulty.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:35 pm

Etrian wrote:Ok, now I'm worried. The game has just frozen on me for the fourth time for absolutely no reason, in a random spot. I'm guessing that the disc might be faulty.

Unless the freezing is happening due to a game-specific crash bug (possible), or you have a visibly damaged game disc...

Random freezing of Xbox 360 games may be a sign that your console hardware is approaching Red Ring of Death...

cody · Post by **cody** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:49 pm

E. Randy Dupre wrote: why not give them a ring or email and ask, see what response you get?

I contacted them 3 different times. First one ignored the question & gave generic repair process info. Second one dodged the question again. Third one said they couldn't answer the question unless a repair ticket had already been started with a JPN serial number . . .

Like I said before, YMMV, but I would not count on receiving warranty service on a jpn console in the US.

As for playing it in 30 minute spurts . . . I've been told by xbox developers that to minimize thermal stresses (which are responsible for at least some of the problems), its most important to go back to the dashboard & let the fans run for a while before turning the machine off.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:22 pm

Thunder Force wrote:
Etrian wrote:Ok, now I'm worried. The game has just frozen on me for the fourth time for absolutely no reason, in a random spot. I'm guessing that the disc might be faulty.
Unless the freezing is happening due to a game-specific crash bug (possible), or you have a visibly damaged game disc...

Random freezing of Xbox 360 games may be a sign that your console hardware is approaching Red Ring of Death...

This is the only Xbox 360 game of mine which has this problem. None of the others have ever frozen on me. I've gotten "disc cannot be read" a few times from a handful of my games, but they didn't just outright freeze and force me to turn my console off.

There's nothing visible on the disc whatsoever, it's pretty much a flawless copy. I'm thinking the disc might be flawed.

Edit; OK, I'm 100% positive that my copy of the game is faulty. Boss movement sounds from a level carry over to the next, pausing the game makes the sound stop entirely, and after pausing the game I'll randomly get the "stage clear" song while in the middle of battle.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:03 am

I've had my copy freeze on me a couple times similar to what Etrian has experienced, and there have been a few music glitches.

No other 360 game I've had has done that. Could my disc be a bad copy?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:20 am

Patch time~

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:36 am

I'm glad I kept my PCBs

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:03 am

Like I said before, YMMV, but I would not count on receiving warranty service on a jpn console in the US.

they go by your serial number.... I gave them my serial number to see what they said and they told me it was covered. just like my friend shayla.

honestly if you want one I'd get it from NCSX and express your concerns. let them know you want one with a HDMI port do to the garenty of that version being newer ect. they work with me all the time on stuff like this ect. peter is a great guy.

plus I understand the concern... but I had to buy a second import wii b/c the drive went bad in the 1st one. if you google it you'll see quite a few wii drive issues floating around. it's always a risk on importing a system. just be sure to buy only if you are SURE you will be getting a newer 360.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:47 am

Etrian wrote:
Thunder Force wrote:
Etrian wrote:Ok, now I'm worried. The game has just frozen on me for the fourth time for absolutely no reason, in a random spot. I'm guessing that the disc might be faulty.
Unless the freezing is happening due to a game-specific crash bug (possible), or you have a visibly damaged game disc...

Random freezing of Xbox 360 games may be a sign that your console hardware is approaching Red Ring of Death...
This is the only Xbox 360 game of mine which has this problem. None of the others have ever frozen on me. I've gotten "disc cannot be read" a few times from a handful of my games, but they didn't just outright freeze and force me to turn my console off.

There's nothing visible on the disc whatsoever, it's pretty much a flawless copy. I'm thinking the disc might be flawed.

Edit; OK, I'm 100% positive that my copy of the game is faulty. Boss movement sounds from a level carry over to the next, pausing the game makes the sound stop entirely, and after pausing the game I'll randomly get the "stage clear" song while in the middle of battle.

I started to read the 2ch thread on the game, and it seems like it's not just you- plenty of other people are reporting freezing and that weird thing with the boss music.

eta: Here we go

http://www.success-corp.co.jp/blog/raid ... ces-2.html

They apologise for the faulty discs and are definitely going to put out a patch for the game, only they can't say when. They just say they are working on it now and it could take time so please be patient etc.

Apart from fixing the bug, they also want to include some other things in the patch and list three examples at the bottom of the post- (be able to 'interact' with friends on the x box live leaderboard (not sure what that means), configure keys in the yoko mode, and set up a default name for the 'name entry' on the scoreboard.)

As soon as the patch is finished they'll announce it on the site. I get the impression they're working pretty hard on it.

They also say that if there's anything you'd like to see in the update, send them a comment using the form on the site.

I'm definitely waiting until this update is released before picking up a 360.

Oh, and in case you were wondering

(世の中はエイプリルフールですが、今回の更新はエイプリルフールネタではありません。)
I know today is April Fools day, but this post is not an April Fool.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:51 am

Thanks for letting me know, henry.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:00 pm

Was ist das?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RAIDEN-FIGHTERS-ACE ... dZViewItem

Limited edition pre-order paper file?