Ideal Shmup

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:45 pm

I LIKE SHMUPS THAT ARE HARD BUT DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT MAKES TEH PATTERNZ EASY TO LEARN
OR BASICALLY PROGRESS IS BASED ON AMOUNT OF TIME PUT IN LOLLLL
NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN 1CC IN 10 MINUTES

LIKE

ETHER VAPOR
MAHOU DAISAKUSEN
UH I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ELSE

WAT ABOUT U GUYS
WUT SHMUPS U LIKE

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:19 pm

I like shmups with great dynamics and NONSTOP, close range action. I'm probably one of the few who doesn't like games made for Tate.

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:24 pm

-Pretty, trippy mesmeric verts
-War themed ones
-Claustrophobic horis

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:13 pm

Easy to learn and intuitive scoring systems that are hard to master but allow a lot of improvisation. I also like games that reward you for playing agressively. Also: Creative bullet patterns, not just spam rolling down the screen. To sum it up, pretty much everything I expect to be included in Ketsui DS (or regular Ketsui of course, but I am too poor to afford either the PCB or a console that demands buying a new, expensive TV just for that).

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:23 pm

320x240 wrote:I like shmups with great dynamics and NONSTOP, close range action.

Sounds like vert shooters, like Toaplan's verts

I'm probably one of the few who doesn't like games made for Tate.

Sounds like horis, like Toaplan's horrible horis

Shocky · Post by **Shocky** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:34 pm

OMG LOL MEMORIZERZ HAS A IMPRESIVE GRAPIX AND SOUNDZ - LIEK IREM HORIS. MOAR X-MULTIPLY, R-TYPE FINAL 2 PLZ

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:48 pm

Hori view, with a strange belnd of both Raizing and Psikyo style/gimmicks, and something weird. Some sort of "theme" that everyone seems to dislike and is a strange presence among shooters.

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:57 pm

dodonpachi pleases me in all ways.
Thats the perfect shmup for me.

-Nice Bitmap looks
-Beautiful, confusing patterns
-lots of patterns
-girls
-tits
- and a well chainsystem makes a good shmup.

D · Post by D » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:04 pm

hand crafted graphics.
Good animation
Huge animated explosions
good ship speed
power ups
smart bombs, optionally even secondairy weapons like in Gunbird
Huge bosses and mid bosses too.
Awesome music
Non childish theme
A strict theme, not like Gekirindan in different times.

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:11 pm

I like hentai shmups the best.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:17 pm

D wrote:Non childish theme
A strict theme, not like Gekirindan in different times.

Come to think of it, Toaplan verts are pretty "cutesy" at times ;) I guess they're disqualified, zomg!

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:18 pm

too long to post here

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:27 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:
D wrote:Non childish theme
A strict theme, not like Gekirindan in different times.
Come to think of it, Toaplan verts are pretty "cutesy" at times I guess they're disqualified, zomg!

Fire Shark is "cutesy"? V-V is "cutesy"?

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:05 pm

shoe : you forgot viper phase 1 in your list

BASICALLY PROGRESS IS BASED ON AMOUNT OF TIME PUT IN LOLLLL
NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN 1CC IN 10 MINUTES

I like something that takes a while to 1cc. But where progress is NOT solely based on the time you put in (dumb memorizers).

I like when a shmup gives the feeling that you may have "skills" or that makes you adapt to different situations. And as someone said, a scoring system that leaves some room for experimentation.

like :
Shmups with Rank
medal chainning systems
Seibu shmups
Konami shmups
Trigger heart
Mars Matrix bullet reflecting
Millipede/Centipede
etc...

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:10 pm

LGB wrote:Fire Shark is "cutesy"? V-V is "cutesy"?

Fire Shark, definitely; lots of rounded edges and let's not forget the little guns that constantly turtle. V-5 has some of the same stuff going on - check out the first popcorn enemies, the horseshoe crab-like ground tanks, or the snake heads that come out of the ground :)

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:15 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:
LGB wrote:Fire Shark is "cutesy"? V-V is "cutesy"?
Fire Shark, definitely; lots of rounded edges and let's not forget the little guns that constantly turtle. V-5 has some of the same stuff going on - check out the first popcorn enemies, the horseshoe crab-like ground tanks, or the snake heads that come out of the ground

KAWAIIIIII *_*;

DefaultGen · Post by **DefaultGen** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:16 pm

O hai, I like rly ez shmups with really small hit boxenz.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:16 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Sounds like vert shooters, like Toaplan's verts
Sounds like horis, like Toaplan's horrible horis

Sounds like vertizontals. 1944, Giga Wing, Mars Matrix, Cho Ren Sha - These have some of what I like.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:22 pm

Metal Slug
Cave game I can afford

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:27 pm

I like:

Horis and verts
Good music
Decent graphics/animation
proper hitbox detection
I avoid most "million bullet" shmups
Good explosions
Good sound efx
Weird/creative or unusual stages
must have atmosphere

Fav shmup companies:

Compile
Tecnosoft
Konami
Raizing
G Rev
Treasure

etc.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:29 pm

Geostorm is better than Metal SLug

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:34 pm

320x240 wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:Sounds like vert shooters, like Toaplan's verts
Sounds like horis, like Toaplan's horrible horis
Sounds like vertizontals. 1944, Giga Wing, Mars Matrix, Cho Ren Sha - These have some of what I like.

I stand corrected then!

Master O · Post by **Master O** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:39 pm

shoe-sama wrote:I LIKE SHMUPS THAT ARE HARD BUT DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT MAKES TEH PATTERNZ EASY TO LEARN
OR BASICALLY PROGRESS IS BASED ON AMOUNT OF TIME PUT IN LOLLLL
NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN 1CC IN 10 MINUTES

LIKE

ETHER VAPOR
MAHOU DAISAKUSEN
UH I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ELSE

WAT ABOUT U GUYS
WUT SHMUPS U LIKE

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! MAY THE PENGUINS FROM PARODIUS TORMENT YOU FOREVER!

Anyways, the perfect shmup is a parody shmup.

I like shooting through fruitcakes, penguins, giant las vegas dancing girls, caricatures and spoofs of strange Japanese sub-cultures, and pinball machines that look really similar to that annoying boss ship from Gradius, because I have a warped sense of humor.

In fact, the more comedically bizzarre it is, the better.

As far as the actual gameplay goes, I agree mostly with what Robotron said, even though I do like some bullet-hell shmups, like Dangun Feveron and Batsugun.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:15 pm

Plus Alpha without loops and more secrets and better powerups
Basically I want a different shooter with the music from Plus Alpha

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:16 pm

Shikigami no Shiro III. Or maybe II. I love cute-em-ups as well.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:20 pm

nimitz wrote:shoe : you forgot viper phase 1 in your list
BASICALLY PROGRESS IS BASED ON AMOUNT OF TIME PUT IN LOLLLL
NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN 1CC IN 10 MINUTES

I LIKE SHMUPS THAT ARE HARD BUT DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT MAKES TEH PATTERNZ EASY TO LEARN

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:37 pm

Takumi DS shooter with no terrible 3D graphics

kid aphex · Post by **kid aphex** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:45 pm

space
self sacrifice
beat intensive techno

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:55 pm

Cave gets it right, you seem horrifically overpowered and then there's all this stuff coming at you and you gotta weave your big ass in there

Don Pachi's probably perfect

kid aphex · Post by **kid aphex** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:55 pm

space
self sacrifice
beat intensive techno

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