Raiden DX Rapid Fire

seiatsu · Post by **seiatsu** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:16 pm

This is a dumb question but can anyone tell me the standard/recomended rapid fire settings for Raiden DX? I couldn't find this info anywhere.

I don't know if it's because most modern shmups typically have a faster fire rate compared to Raiden but I certainly don't remember any of the classic Raiden games (arcade) firing as slow as the PSX version on default settings. Has it just been that long or was the fire rate always this slow?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:57 pm

You can adjust autofire in the options menu. Just jack it up to the max. That's what all the arcades in Japan have as well.

seiatsu · Post by **seiatsu** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:19 am

OK, thanks. I'll go with max then (knew about the options but didn't know the standard).

I guess all the raiden cabs I've played on were max as well. At least I now know I wasn't mistaken (about them feeling like they had a fater rate of fire way back then).

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:17 am

seiatsu wrote:I guess all the raiden cabs I've played on were max as well.

Unlikely, unless you were playing cabs in Japan. The PCB needs an autofire circuit, which is anything but standard. I've never seen autofire hacked cabs in the US.

Post by **nZero** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:50 am

Dave_K. wrote:
seiatsu wrote:I guess all the raiden cabs I've played on were max as well.
Unlikely, unless you were playing cabs in Japan. The PCB needs an autofire circuit, which is anything but standard. I've never seen autofire hacked cabs in the US.

All of the Raiden DX cabs I ever played on had a 3rd button for auto-shot. Maybe it was something that Fabtek included with the kit?

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:58 am

nZero wrote:All of the Raiden DX cabs I ever played on had a 3rd button for auto-shot. Maybe it was something that Fabtek included with the kit?

I can't confirm as my DX PCB broke awhile ago, but I believe C auto is a normal part of the game software, but not as fast as a 30hz autofire board (or the PSX autofire option).

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:01 am

Raiden auto-fire is slow as fuck. Just download it for mame to see what the standard is...

EDIT: Oh wait, DX doesn't work in mame, does it? I'm pretty sure it's all the same though...

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:43 pm

raiden 1 doesnt have autofire.

raiden DX has C-button autofire

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:22 pm

sven666 wrote:raiden 1 doesnt have autofire.

raiden DX has C-button autofire

Well, I mean you hold down the button and it continuously shoots for you, even though it's really slow. That doesn't count as autofire? I didn't know about the third button in DX though...

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:19 pm

Ozymandiaz1260 wrote:
sven666 wrote:raiden 1 doesnt have autofire.

raiden DX has C-button autofire
Well, I mean you hold down the button and it continuously shoots for you, even though it's really slow. That doesn't count as autofire? I didn't know about the third button in DX though...

ah yeah well in that case raiden 1 has autofire aswell.. it shoots like once every second or something if you just keep the button pressed.

its completely useless anyways, teh raiden DX cbutton autofire is almost as fast as an external circuit and is absoluteley essential for playing the game any way decent.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:27 am

sven666 wrote:its completely useless anyways, teh raiden DX cbutton autofire is almost as fast as an external circuit and is absoluteley essential for playing the game any way decent.

Raiden DX, Main Land China Licensee, Ideal Int'l Development Corp has
autofire on button C.

It works but the laser is seriously erratic.

rtw

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:34 am

I usually like to play with my rapid fire setting at 6. It's comfortable for me that way. I'll have to try it at max and see how crazy it is.

digitron · Post by **digitron** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:24 am

I understand the default pcb rapid fire is 15hz would it be worthwhile to put button 1 on 30hz or something for point blanking or is that too sweaty?

Steven · Post by **Steven** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:55 am

Ancient thread, but Mikado and Taito Hey both have this as their Raiden DX button configurations:

Shot Bomb 30Hz
15hz

Rastan78 · Post by **Rastan78** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:06 pm

I have the old Raiden Insanity DVD and all the superplays on there seem to use 15 and 30hz for Raiden 1, 2 and DX.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:25 pm

You want 30hz for extreme pointblank boss speedkill tech, and 15hz for all-purpose play.

digitron · Post by **digitron** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:35 pm

Thanks! I'm using the Reco from RGB so I'll try vsync rapid fire "option 1" for buttons 1 & 2 (shot and bomb) and leave button 3 as-is @ 15Hz (pcb). Not sure if there would be significant difference between the vsync or async version of rapid fire, I'm guessing the range would somewhere around ~27hz vsync vs 30hz async.

Rastan78 · Post by **Rastan78** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:16 pm

Never used the RECO but generally autofire using the sync signal should be preferred. That will produce a more consistent ON/OFF cycle that is locked to the actual refresh rate. For some games and techniques this can be really important. In Raiden I'd imagine the actual difference between the two will be minor as far as damage output. Still might as well use sync since you have such an optimized device.

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