bakraid on mame?

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:06 pm

can somebody help me out? i cant seem to get this running on mame

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:17 pm

Try an older version, 0.99b used to work just fine for me when I had XP. Newer versions tend to say that files are missing even though the same romset works fine on an older release.

Also: Be more specific.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:09 pm

I'm using a recent (maybe latest? don't know) version of mame on XP, and Bakraid works fine there. Also it works fine on XMAME in linux. can you be more specific about the rom version you're trying to use and the version of mame?

indstr · Post by **indstr** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:41 pm

works fine in mame plus 0.114 for me

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:19 pm

Make sure that if you run bbakradu you also have bbakraid romset. bbakradu only has additional files.

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:02 pm

k thnx got it workin, loving it. ive never had a chance to play it til now

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:14 am

Hardstepah wrote:k thnx got it workin, loving it. ive never had a chance to play it til now

It's much hated game around here because of the chaining system but once you wrap your head around it, you'll find it's pretty flexible as far as enemy chaining goes.

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:21 am

anybody know how to get a usb controller working on mame?

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:28 am

It's really complicated.

1. Plug it in.
2. Click "enable joystick input."

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:35 am

there is no "enable joystick" anywhere

Bloodreign · Post by **Bloodreign** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:57 am

Enable Joystick input under options/default options, under controllers, checkmark it. Mine sees my Gravis Gamesuckpro Pad well enough, checking the option allows you to use it.

indstr · Post by **indstr** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:13 am

i use xpadder to remap the joystick to keyboard keys, although i think that doesn't work in newer mame versions due to them using directinput

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:15 am

...or you can just use joy2key.

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:44 am

or if you are using command line mame (works with any version too)

just modify your mame.ini with the following line:

joystick 1

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:56 am

Acid King wrote:It's much hated game around here because of the chaining system but once you wrap your head around it, you'll find it's pretty flexible as far as enemy chaining goes.

haha seems like if it isnt battle garegga its hated here

hmmm there doesnt seem to be any kind of check boxes. i remember running mame32 and there being a menu with the list of games etc, but i just click mame exe and it brings up a menu fulle screen (dos maybe?) says controller options but it only works for the keybord. i'll try running a diffrent mame i guess.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:02 am

Suiciding to freeze your multiplier is what gets a lot of people worked up the most. Look at the video of someone losing all their lives to that first boss only to get a score so high they have like four lives at the beginning of the next stage, something like that I think. Once I knew about that it was hard to look at the game in the same way again. Which is a shame because it's sooo damn good. I love the levels and I think the choice of ships might actually be some of the best balance in a shmup, at least of those going past the usual 2 or 3 ships, but that's debatable.

Hardstepah, also, you should get a MAME with a GUI such as Wolfmame. Google it. I like version .99. A lot of people who have bad experiences with MAME I eventually find out didn't use one with a GUI and I didn't even think to ask. It's a lot more confusing that way for the average computer user.

roker · Post by **roker** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:53 am

I play the game for fun and I've had a blast

if I played to get the highest score then I'd probably hate it.

To be honest, that's why we play these shmups (to 1cc AND get high scores), but if you can look past that and play to 1cc, you'll find it's worthwhile (not to mention the game is pretty damn easy if this is your only goal).

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:09 am

You can find a lot of old MAME versions here. Personally, I use MAME Plus .104u1. To get your controller working in most MAMEs that use a GUI, go to Options --> Default game options, click on the "Controllers" tab, and check "Enable joystick input."

FrederikJurk wrote:Try an older version, 0.99b used to work just fine for me when I had XP. Newer versions tend to say that files are missing even though the same romset works fine on an older release.

Unlike most emulators, the zip files for MAME ROMs change somewhat frequently. You can use MAWS to look up a rom and see when and if it was changed, and there are torrents of MAME "rollbacks" on Pleasure Dome that can be used in conjunction with the most recent romset to roll back a rom so it works with an older version. But sometimes all you need to do is rename a file.

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:26 am

got it al in order, thanks alot everybody. i'm absolutely loving battle bakraid. how can you hate that game? its not even that complex. oh well to each their own i guess, their loss. i cant seem to find a working battle garegga though. too bad.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:42 am

its not even that complex

Take a look at this.

orange · Post by **orange** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:45 am

if you're using command line mame use -joystick

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:55 am

yeah thats better, even more reason for me to get hooked more on this

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:39 am

Zebra Airforce wrote:
its not even that complex
Take a look at this.

When I first saw the Bakraid replay from super-play.co.uk I thought
"Man, this is a superplay? The guys dies already on the fist boss" until he got THREE extends at the beginning of stage two. I don´t have the exact number of how much the player suicides during that replay (25 times maybe?), but it´s a technique to keep an enemy chain going.

http://www.super-play.co.uk/index.php?c ... &gameid=62

Think about it. You voluntarily KILL YOURSELF to keep a CHAIN GOING. In Battle Garegga you killed yourself to keep the rank low, but here it is absolutely necessary to score high. Just trying to get high scores by collecting medals isn´t going to give you even a fraction of the score you´ll get with chaining let alone chaining AND collecting medals. It´s nothing I´d want for yourself but this really is the climax of hilarious score systems. People complain a lot about rank in Garegga, but this here is A LOT funnier. But only for a very elite group of players. I can´t think of a bigger risk/reward factor than this game.

I used to wonder that what if I completely chain the first boss, grab the whole bunch of extends and then try to play for survival with those added lives, but chaining Axebeak is already so complicated I just forgot about it.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:28 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:
Think about it. You voluntarily KILL YOURSELF to keep a CHAIN GOING. In Battle Garegga you killed yourself to keep the rank low, but here it is absolutely necessary to score high. Just trying to get high scores by collecting medals isn´t going to give you even a fraction of the score you´ll get with chaining let alone chaining AND collecting medals. It´s nothing I´d want for yourself but this really is the climax of hilarious score systems. People complain a lot about rank in Garegga, but this here is A LOT funnier. But only for a very elite group of players. I can´t think of a bigger risk/reward factor than this game.

I used to wonder that what if I completely chain the first boss, grab the whole bunch of extends and then try to play for survival with those added lives, but chaining Axebeak is already so complicated I just forgot about it.

If you're just going for a normal clear, there are a few spots where you can push the multiplier up without suiciding and earn one or two extends before the Cloud stage. I cleared it a bunch of times before I learned the scoring system. If you do the Axebeak trick right and pull 10 million plus from the first stage and hoard all those lives, the rank would shoot up pretty fast.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:54 pm

Last time I pulled off the 4mil trick with blade owl on stage 1 of the normal route, I didn't even make it to the cloud stage.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:21 pm

FIL wrote:Last time I pulled off the 4mil trick with blade owl on stage 1 of the normal route, I didn't even make it to the cloud stage.

You can also pull close to 2 million more from the beginning of the Naval stage with some creative bombing and probably close to another million or so from chaining portions of the Seaside stage. Better get to work.

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:28 pm

i get about 3-4 mill off seaside.. i cant get any points of axebeak tho

need to see the vids

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:18 pm

charlie chong wrote:i get about 3-4 mill off seaside.. i cant get any points of axebeak tho
need to see the vids

The 4-5 million blade owl trick on axebeak is done by smraedis in his marp input if you're looking for an easier and more reliable way to score from stage 1 charlie.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:53 pm

I've been playing the game on and off for 2 years and I've only pulled 10 million from Axebeak once. I alwyas wind up destroying one of the wing batteries with a bomb so the most I regularly pull from him is 8.5 million.

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:10 pm

freddiebamboo wrote:
charlie chong wrote:i get about 3-4 mill off seaside.. i cant get any points of axebeak tho
need to see the vids
The 4-5 million blade owl trick on axebeak is done by smraedis in his marp input if you're looking for an easier and more reliable way to score from stage 1 charlie.

aah thanks acid king told me about the vid with the ten million milk but i could do with seeing a smaller/easier point increase to push up my score! i have no way of downloading stuff tho cos i got no internet at home

if you ever fire down my way i'll have to get you to burn me some superplays and inps!