Last Alarm-new XNA shmup from Garage Games!...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:08 am

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29979.html

Looks like a pretty cool traditional shmup!

bsidwell · Post by **bsidwell** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:18 am

Looks a bit crap to me.
Be helpful if they showed more than 10 seconds of gameplay, though.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:21 am

is it like last hope?

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:26 am

This shit reeks of a bad euroshmup.

Not gonna be worth it.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:34 am

Widescreen in a vertical shmup? It looks much worse than Soeldner-X, at least in that one widescreen was perfectly justified.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:45 am

moozooh wrote:Widescreen in a vertical shmup? It looks much worse than Soeldner-X, at least in that one widescreen was perfectly justified.

There are vertical shmups that are native-widscreen.

It looks gorgeous to me, but then I don't have an HD set, just my ghetto one.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:48 am

dave4shmups wrote:There are vertical shmups that are native-widscreen.

Judging by the fact that I've never once heard about one before, I take it they aren't really popular, either. I wonder why. (I don't.)

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:53 am

Eh, this looks HORRIBLE. Too bad stuff like this gets churned out, it really is a poor representation of how good the genre can be.

RyanDG · Post by **RyanDG** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:13 am

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136854

It's a fairly interesting project for some NeoGAF users working on XNA PC/Xbox 360

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:34 am

I agree with most here, looks terrible. Notice the "shield" bar at the bottom, the widescreen, the enemies that take a lot of hits to kill, the lack of interesting bullet patterns... and very possibly the analog-stick aiming, as I noticed the ship shooting sideways with the aim of the shot circling around as if controlled by a stick. I really hope that Omega 5 (and before it, Geometry Wars) has not started a trend of analog-stick aiming for scrolling shmups, because it's just stupid.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:52 am

For an arena shooter like GW, aiming with the stick is ok, because arena shooters work best with twin sticks. But yeah, if that starts creeping into conventional scrolling shooters it would be aids on a stick.

This game doesn't look so good, what little we could see of it in the trailer.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:16 am

Look! It's a textured cube! OMG it's got these cool lightning effects! Next-gen!

Man 1 : Right. We need a project to try out some new ideas. Any suggestions?
Man 2 : Remember those shooters we used to play back in the eighties?
Man 1 : Like 1942 and stuff? Those where the days! Spending all your hours at the arcade playing all these games. Sure, I remember.
Man 2 : What if we made an updated version of that kind of game, with lighning effects and rotating guns and all. It could even be controlled using the analog stick! Wouldn't that be neat?
Man 1 : Cool! Let's do it.
Man 2 : And if the game plays badly, who cares?. No one is going to play 2d games on a pc anyway, right?
Man 1 : (chuckles) Right.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:43 am

Eww. But I guess we shouldn't expect alot, considering how bad the original Argus was.

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:27 am

"In the year 256787261788888272716 some bad computer..."

Spare me.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:12 am

not started a trend of analog-stick aiming for scrolling shmups, because it's just stupid.

I know what's more stupid.....

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:35 pm

moozooh wrote:
dave4shmups wrote:There are vertical shmups that are native-widscreen.
Judging by the fact that I've never once heard about one before, I take it they aren't really popular, either. I wonder why. (I don't.)

Compile, for one-all of their vertical shmups were native full-screen, and most are considered pretty good.

I'll reserve criticism for this one when it comes out; I love Euro-Shmups, and it's not as if this one is finished yet-it doesn't even have a release date.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:39 pm

Ship looks like it is sorta "floaty" in movement, instead of precise.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:49 am

dave4shmups wrote:Compile, for one-all of their vertical shmups were native full-screen, and most are considered pretty good.

Dave, fullscreen. I said widescreen. There's a difference.

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:59 pm

Another year, another shitty euroshmup.

cadpipe · Post by **cadpipe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:09 pm

That is probs the worst shooter ive ever seen.

monoRAIL · Post by **monoRAIL** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:12 am

I feel bad criticizing something from NeoGaf, it's a cool forum. But this just looks really bland. Horrible music - average art, slow pace, boring bullets. This needs a serious rework and some strict quality control before they think of releasing it.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:54 am

If it looks like shit, it probably is shit.

D · Post by D » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:29 am

Wow, that looked awful. YOKO is bad enough, but this has ultimate wide screen YOKO. It doesn't make any sense at all. The main ship in the cg intro was pretty nice. Good to see they got at least one right.
Ah, it will be on xbox live and everybody will give it 9's and 10's when it's out, who cares!
blech

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:59 pm

moozooh wrote:
dave4shmups wrote:Compile, for one-all of their vertical shmups were native full-screen, and most are considered pretty good.
Dave, fullscreen. I said widescreen. There's a difference.

My bad.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:07 pm

Wow, game looks... like... ...

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:49 am

Nothing against non-tate vertical shmups like RSG or Mars Matrix, but this is just ridiculous. This, and the ultra ULTRA slow bullets.

I somehow like the ships design in the trailer, even though it looks like a syringe with wings. Speaking of which: Why all the cutscenes? It seems proven to me that you really don´t need all this CG and "story" stuff to get gamers interested, just look at Geometry Wars. I bet games like rRootage or Tumiki Fighters would actually sell A LOT better than this here.

I really wonder why developers keep trying their hands on shmups if they clearly have next to zero knowledge about the genre.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:22 am

Because bad shmups are easy to make.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:51 am

Pointless collections of minigames are easy to make, too, and I bet they sell better.