Is Dangun supposed to be this fast?

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:21 pm

I've been recently trying my luck at Dangun Feveron, and find it to be...insanely fast. Like, how are you supposed to play this? Is it this fast in the arcade, or is it some kind of MAME problem?

s/m

Shion · Post by **Shion** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:26 pm

It's supposed to be fast, that's why you can select ship speed.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:29 pm

Well, I know that. My brain doesn't work that fast. Oh well.

s/m

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:43 pm

After the MAME slowing down problem, the MAME acceleration problem !

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:47 pm

Great thread.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:52 pm

The actual Dangun Feveron PCB is damn fast to begin with -- is on par with the number four speed selection on the classic PCE/TG-16 shmup game of Gunhed/Blazing Lazers... ^_~

Feveron is regarded as Cave's fastest arcade shmup title in terms of sheer speed player-wise (and still no official game console port to this day, either). Either play it on Mame emulation or grab the PCB version and play it as it was meant to be played on low-res 15.7kHz RGB monitor with Supergun or full-sized Japanese arcade cabinet setup..... ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:58 pm

i'm a secret character

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:06 am

No, it's not supposed to be that fast. Mame is actually faster than the PCB. It was significant enough to throw me off when I finally got a chance to play the original in person last year.

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:06 am

a yellow cat?

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:11 am

Yep, same yellow cat found in Cave's arcade puzzler by the name of Uo Poko... ^_~

RGC · Post by **RGC** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:15 am

jpj wrote:i'm a secret character

A bloody noisy one

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:11 am

Rob wrote:Great thread.

I try.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:12 am

Damocles wrote:No, it's not supposed to be that fast. Mame is actually faster than the PCB. It was significant enough to throw me off when I finally got a chance to play the original in person last year.

Well, i'm glad someone gave me a decent answer. Thanks. Can you play the game in any other emulators that play it at a speed more like the PCB?

s/m

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:28 am

I played the same PCB Damocles did... it seemed just as fast as when I played it in MAME. At least, I was doing about as well as I usually do (losing my disco man count halfway through stage 2 and not surviving much longer after that)

I really want to master this game but it's so intimidating.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:28 am

The PCB is still plenty fast, though. I haven't done any side-by-side comparisons, but I have played both on different occasions and both were too fast for me.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:47 am

PROMETHEUS wrote:After the MAME slowing down problem, the MAME acceleration problem !

That´s nothing. My version of MAME displays Battle Garegga with polygons and cat image macros instead of bullets.

On topic: Yeah, Dangun really IS that fast, and if you try playing it seriously you better pick one of the two fastest ship speeds, as scoring high is nearly impossible with the slower speeds. (Not that I am a pro by any means, I still can´t even access the default scoretable

)

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:59 am

Damocles wrote:No, it's not supposed to be that fast. Mame is actually faster than the PCB. It was significant enough to throw me off when I finally got a chance to play the original in person last year.

Are you sure that wasn't rank?

Rank drops after you die lol. It affects bullet speed, and I'm pretty sure it has no effect on anything else in feveron. Should max out when you nomiss to stage 3.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:15 am

shoe-sama wrote:Rank drops after you die lol. It affects bullet speed, and I'm pretty sure it has no effect on anything else in feveron. Should max out when you nomiss to stage 3.

I didn't die until stage 3, if I remember correctly. It seemed slower from the get go. Patterns that are normally reflex twitch dodges in Mame are much more...thoughtful...on the PCB. At least that's what I remember thinking while playing...

Meh...just download a vid and compare that with Mame...

zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:49 am

Mame still does not emulate wait states.

This causes certain games to play too fast when the cpu settings are correct.

Dangun Feveron is one of them.

It is my experience that scoring well makes rank go up more then simple survival.

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:17 am

I laughed when I saw this thread title because I remember playing Dangun for the first time a couple years ago and thinking the exact same thing to myself.

During the stage 3 boss I remember spending about 5 credits just trying to consistently dodge one of his final patterns but it was so insanely fast that I could hardly even comprehend it.

Most of the final stage is so fast that I sometimes don't even have time to think to press the bomb button because the moment that I realize there is a pattern speeding at me I'm already dead.

Also, would it have killed them to make those tiny bullets more noticeable? As if the sheer hyper-speed doesn't make the game difficult enough, they throw in these tiny bullets that blend in with almost every background in the game.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:27 am

Dangun Feveron is Cave's best and one of their few titles that keep me coming back!
It's speediness keeps my low attention span alert!

RGC · Post by **RGC** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:26 am

I dunno, all this talk and no action.

More time attack scores welcome.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:16 pm

Nuke wrote:Dangun Feveron is Cave's best and one of their few titles that keep me coming back!
It's speediness keeps my low attention span alert!

Same here.