NCSX offering Hori Real Arcade Pro v2.0 again...

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:03 pm

The following link listed below mentions that National Console Support Inc. is taking orders for the newly re-stocked Hori Real Arcade Pro v2.0 iteration arcade stick for the PS2 console. However, it's been priced at a whopping $175.00 USD. If you want one of these puppies badly enough, just be prepared to "bite the bullet & pay through the nose" for one..... ^_~

http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/HP2-205.html

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

DBHashman93 · Post by **DBHashman93** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:41 am

So I take it that $100 shipped for a HRAP 2 is a good deal? This seller on ebay has 500 available at buy it now for $89.99 and I'm flirting with purchasing it....any input from people who have put in more research on pricing for the HRAP 2?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hori-Arcade-Pro-2-F ... dZViewItem

Any feedback would be appreciated!

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:00 am

it's a sanwa stick with hori buttons. Seems like a good deal.

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:08 am

thats a helluva price difference from ncsx and the ebay listing! good looking out, i think i might snag one!

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:39 pm

Can it be fitted easily with a Seimitsu LS-32?

Been padding it on the PS2. I'm itching to get a stick... might grab one off ebay.

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:42 pm

themachinist wrote:Can it be fitted easily with a Seimitsu LS-32?

Been padding it on the PS2. I'm itching to get a stick... might grab one off ebay.

that's a good question. doesn't a seimistu mount with the same screws in the same place?

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:33 pm

Will these work for the PS1?

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:48 pm

Fighter17 wrote:Will these work for the PS1?

Thats a toughy. i know PS2 controllers are technically NOT supposed to work with the PS1, but i have myself tried a Pelican real arcade pro with a PS1 and it worked great. i dont know if it registers the same as a dual shock 2, so that might be why it worked.

Gakidou · Post by **Gakidou** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:52 pm

Yeah, HRAP works with PS1 and no, fitting the second model with Seimitsu is not easy (or so I'm told, apparently wrong mounting plates). With the first one it's really simple though.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:59 pm

Well that means I'm getting two of these soon.

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:12 am

"Some prefer the Seimitsu LS-32 stick,
and you can put this in a HRAP 1 (v.1) and HRAP 2, but not in a HRAP 1 (v.2, with the non-mirror top). "

^ Something EOJ said in a previous HRAP1/2 thread.

So this is a HRAP 1 v2? What does a HRAP2 look like then? I'm wanting a model that can use both sanwa and seimitsu so I can try out both eventually.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:18 am

For those curious, this thread's been done.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=11333
Plenty of info there.

Regarding Seimitsu LS-32:
I have an LS-32-01 in my RAP1 v1. Had to remove and rotate the mounting plate 90deg to fit it in. I think there's an issue with the RAP1 v2 that doesn't allow the LS-32 to be fitted (check above posted thread for more info).

Stick is awesome, by the way. Recommended. Definitely worth getting for PS2, PSX, PC and supergun usage. Although you'll have to move the buttons around a bit if you're going to use a PS2>Neo adaptor for supergun usage. ^_-

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:34 am

Yeah I read through that thread. It looks like the ones that are on ebay are HRAP 2 not Hrap1 v 2? Hrap1v2 being black base with grey non reflective top and hrap2 being white base? Just trying to figure out the difference.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:44 am

The ones on ebay (white with red buttons) are HRAP2.

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:19 am

EOJ wrote:The ones on ebay (white with red buttons) are HRAP2.

oo thanks.

Now to convince myself I can spare $100.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:47 am

aphexacid wrote:
Fighter17 wrote:Will these work for the PS1?
Thats a toughy. i know PS2 controllers are technically NOT supposed to work with the PS1, but i have myself tried a Pelican real arcade pro with a PS1 and it worked great. i dont know if it registers the same as a dual shock 2, so that might be why it worked.

I think you have the 2 mixed up. AFAIK, all PS1 games work with PS2 controllers but quite a few PS2 games don't work in part/full with PS1 controllers.

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:40 am

Ganelon wrote:
aphexacid wrote:
Fighter17 wrote:Will these work for the PS1?
Thats a toughy. i know PS2 controllers are technically NOT supposed to work with the PS1, but i have myself tried a Pelican real arcade pro with a PS1 and it worked great. i dont know if it registers the same as a dual shock 2, so that might be why it worked.
I think you have the 2 mixed up. AFAIK, all PS1 games work with PS2 controllers but quite a few PS2 games don't work in part/full with PS1 controllers.

No, he asked if he could use this PS2 controller/stick on a PS1 system.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:05 am

aphexacid wrote:
Ganelon wrote:
aphexacid wrote: Thats a toughy. i know PS2 controllers are technically NOT supposed to work with the PS1, but i have myself tried a Pelican real arcade pro with a PS1 and it worked great. i dont know if it registers the same as a dual shock 2, so that might be why it worked.
I think you have the 2 mixed up. AFAIK, all PS1 games work with PS2 controllers but quite a few PS2 games don't work in part/full with PS1 controllers.
No, he asked if he could use this PS2 controller/stick on a PS1 system.

Yeah.

RGC · Post by **RGC** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:02 pm

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:16 pm

aphexacid wrote:
Ganelon wrote:
aphexacid wrote: Thats a toughy. i know PS2 controllers are technically NOT supposed to work with the PS1, but i have myself tried a Pelican real arcade pro with a PS1 and it worked great. i dont know if it registers the same as a dual shock 2, so that might be why it worked.
I think you have the 2 mixed up. AFAIK, all PS1 games work with PS2 controllers but quite a few PS2 games don't work in part/full with PS1 controllers.
No, he asked if he could use this PS2 controller/stick on a PS1 system.

I'm saying your source for PS2 controllers not working on the PS1 is incorrect (since Sony always said that was fine) and that you were confusing that with what Sony said about PS1 controllers working on the PS2 (where there would be some technical issues).

Anyway, Seimitsu is a lot stiffer than Sanwa (not as much as US sticks though) with very audible switches.

Lastblade · Post by **Lastblade** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:56 am

I have this stick, it is lovely.

I can't get it to work on PS3 though. I guess I have to suck it up and just buy the Pelican PS2 adaptor for PS3.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:16 am

RGC wrote:Just out of interest, did you not get on with the Sanwa stick for shooting games? I'm using an HRAP2 with all Sanwa parts, but I'm quite curious to know how Seimitsu sticks differ.

My stick had a Sanwa in originally, and I hated it. I grew up in an arcade playing shooting games like Raiden, and tend to prefer precise, instant control. And the Sanwa, for all the time I gave it, felt too loose to me. The stick needed to be "thrown" quite a fair distance before any kind of on-screen movement was made, and as you should know, a split-second of slowness in a shooting game spells death.

The Seimitsu stick is far more responsive to me, and needs only a tiny amount of throw before it clicks. Funnily enough, it is to sticks what Sanwa is to buttons (very sensitive). I suppose if you gave it enough time, you could get used to a Sanwa stick, but for me, Seimitsu all the way.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:17 am

How would you get a device using a PS2 controller port to work on a USB port without a converter?

Lastblade · Post by **Lastblade** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:32 am

Ganelon wrote:How would you get a device using a PS2 controller port to work on a USB port without a converter?

I have another USB PS2 adaptor that I can get a dualshock to work (for PS3 games anyway). But the stick doesn't work even for PS3 games.

RGC · Post by **RGC** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:45 am

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:56 am

175$?
wtf lol. you can find custom stick for this price