SOUKYUGURENTAI

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:48 pm

LSU wrote: You may be quite surprised at just how much better it is.
The main thing is there is far less slowdown on the Saturn version - this isn't just a graphical thing, it really affects the gameplay.
Then there are the graphical differences - the Saturn version uses the fancy scaling hardware to do high bit-depth, nicely detailed backgrounds. Whereas the PS1 version is by comparison, and putting it politely, a little ugly to look at.
So the Saturn version simply looks and plays a lot better.
The extra ship on the PS1 version is really the only reason I own that version as well.

Thank you for typing this and saving my time.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:10 pm

LSU wrote:You may be quite surprised at just how much better it is.
The main thing is there is far less slowdown on the Saturn version - this isn't just a graphical thing, it really affects the gameplay.
Then there are the graphical differences - the Saturn version uses the fancy scaling hardware to do high bit-depth, nicely detailed backgrounds. Whereas the PS1 version is by comparison, and putting it politely, a little ugly to look at.

So the Saturn version simply looks and plays a lot better.
The extra ship on the PS1 version is really the only reason I own that version as well.

I know it is graphically superior, but I didn't realize it would affect it so much so that it would cause a lot of slowdown. I don't really notice much slowdown until late Stage 3 on PS1 and that's quite alright if you ask me. I'm sorry to keep beating a dead horse, but having played PS1 to a good extent I just don't think it's too terrible compared to Saturn... which I haven't played.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:51 pm

Limbrooke wrote:which I haven't played

Which explains why you would think that.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:55 am

I think to save all arguments just get the damm original St-V and thats it. Perfect.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:30 am

Copeland wrote:I think to save all arguments just get the damm original St-V and thats it. Perfect.

That's not it. ST-V ports are usually dead on for the Saturn since they use similar hardware to the arcade. The arcade version doesn't make the Saturn one obsolete.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:56 am

Ceph wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:which I haven't played
Which explains why you would think that.

I've heard enough. Now I have an Otokuyo copy on way from Yahoo so I'll finally find out the truth for myself. This $20 had better be worth it.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:25 pm

BrianC wrote:
Copeland wrote:I think to save all arguments just get the damm original St-V and thats it. Perfect.
That's not it. ST-V ports are usually dead on for the Saturn since they use similar hardware to the arcade. The arcade version doesn't make the Saturn one obsolete.

No it does not of course, But after investigating quite a bit about the game it actually preforms allot better on ST-V

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:43 pm

Limbrooke wrote:
Ceph wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:which I haven't played
Which explains why you would think that.
I've heard enough. Now I have an Otokuyo copy on way from Yahoo so I'll finally find out the truth for myself. This $20 had better be worth it.

You won't regret it. It's definitely worth it.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:46 pm

Copeland wrote:
BrianC wrote:
Copeland wrote:I think to save all arguments just get the damm original St-V and thats it. Perfect.
That's not it. ST-V ports are usually dead on for the Saturn since they use similar hardware to the arcade. The arcade version doesn't make the Saturn one obsolete.
No it does not of course, But after investigating quite a bit about the game it actually preforms allot better on ST-V

That is the first I heard this. I heard the Saturn version is very close to the arcade.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:53 pm

BrianC wrote:
Copeland wrote:
BrianC wrote: That's not it. ST-V ports are usually dead on for the Saturn since they use similar hardware to the arcade. The arcade version doesn't make the Saturn one obsolete.
No it does not of course, But after investigating quite a bit about the game it actually preforms allot better on ST-V
That is the first I heard this. I heard the Saturn version is very close to the arcade.

Yes very close but not exact %100

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:10 pm

Copeland wrote:it actually preforms allot better on ST-V

Then you say that the Saturn version is

Copeland wrote:very close but not exact %100

You are contradicting yourself. If the Saturn version is "very close" then the ST-V cart can't "perform a lot better". "A lot better" would mean it's not close at all.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:19 pm

Ceph wrote:
Copeland wrote:it actually preforms allot better on ST-V
Then you say that the Saturn version is

Copeland wrote:very close but not exact %100
You are contradicting yourself. If the Saturn version is "very close" then the ST-V cart can't "perform a lot better". "A lot better" would mean it's not close at all.

No i cannot see any contradictions in anything i have said.
Very close + 100% mean two completely different things. Google the meanings.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:41 pm

Let me guess: You are not in a profession that requires logic.

nem · Post by **nem** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:48 pm

It's not like the ST-V version doesn't have any slowdown... because it does.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:10 pm

Ceph wrote:Let me guess: You are not in a profession that requires logic.

No the building industry does not require logic at all.
And you are god i take it?

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:34 pm

Copeland wrote:you are god i take it?

No, that's another user.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:48 pm

Copeland wrote:And you are bored i take it?

Fixed.

versionfiv · Post by **versionfiv** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:30 am

I got soukyu for Saturn yesterday. I can already say it's very fun and it isn't going to be easy to beat.

IMO it also feels a little similar to Galactic Attack, but pulls off the whole package much better than GA.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:18 am

versionfiv wrote:I got soukyu for Saturn yesterday. I can already say it's very fun and it isn't going to be easy to beat.

IMO it also feels a little similar to Galactic Attack, but pulls off the whole package much better than GA.

I wouldn't compare the two...different games, but both good in their own ways. Layer Section is also in my top 10 to 20 shmups as well.

EDIT:

Sorry, I hate the name "Galactic Attack"..."Layer Section" is much more sexier and makes more sense (as a title) once you get into the game.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:56 pm

ITT ceph is the new icycalm.

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:44 pm

This game kick my ass all the time. But I still find myself going back to it. I still have yet to beat it. The Saturn version, I mean. Tough SOB!

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:57 pm

The Saturn is basically ST-V hardware with less memory. Most ST-V games in the arcade made it to the Saturn as well.

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:42 pm

Does the original version of Soukyugurentai play on a white Saturn without any issues?

Post by **spadgy** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:50 pm

Copeland wrote:
ROBOTRON wrote:Oh hell yeah.

Get the Saturn version if possible...ps1 secondly...but get it. A triumph by Raizing. Check out the YouTube clips....they tell the story.
Thanks,
Ive just obtained the st-v cart.
Now need the motherboard.

Have you tried putting a wanted (WTB post on the trading section here? It's a great way to get hold f what you want!

And don't go back to lurking! More friendly people that don't just want to bicker dilutes the 'out of hand' stuff!

Post by **spadgy** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:54 pm

MX7 wrote:
icycalm wrote:If "all the questions regarding this game have been answered before, and more than once" then why not stick that in FAQ, ban all discussion on this game, and have BulletMagnet come here and lock this thread too?

I mean, jeez. Inanity like this, I swear to God, only on the internet.

Only on the internet.
Lol, the first time I've ever agreed with something Icycalm has said D:

Me too. Good one Icy! I understand the purpose and role of the search engine, but if most things here are alreay said in older threads then why do we use a forum and not just cruise the whole net searching and Googling? For discussion of course... (and community and japes)

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:27 pm

Hmm. Well if anyone has the special version for offer I'll buy it (subject to game's condition!)

Post by **undamned** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:42 pm

Copeland wrote:
Ceph wrote:Let me guess: You are not in a profession that requires logic.
No the building industry does not require logic at all.

Is that like construction?
-ud

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:14 am

undamned wrote:
Copeland wrote:
Ceph wrote:Let me guess: You are not in a profession that requires logic.
No the building industry does not require logic at all.
Is that like construction?
-ud

No, he works for Lego.

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:41 am

The Coop wrote:
undamned wrote:
Copeland wrote: No the building industry does not require logic at all.
Is that like construction?
-ud
No, he works for Lego.

I fuckin' love to work for lego.

Just a pile of bricks, coming up with new models...

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:03 pm

Tigershark wrote:Does the original version of Soukyugurentai play on a white Saturn without any issues?

Bumped to answer the above please?