SOUKYUGURENTAI

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:36 am

HI peoples im fairly new to shooting games.
Is SOUKYUGURENTAI a good game?
I would also like to be informed of it's value on the following platforms , ST-V , Saturn and Ps1.
thank you and keep up the great work.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:43 am

Souky is one of the best shooters on Saturn, great game. I only know about its value on Saturn and I'd say it's in the $30-$35 range.

grovsnus · Post by **grovsnus** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:46 am

It's a great game. It's worth a lot to me.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:51 am

Soukyugurentai has a great look and feel to it; unfortunately rank punishes you for shooting. Still one of the best Saturn shooters (arcade perfect port). Avoid the PS1 conversion at all costs. Want to know more? Use the forum search. All question reagrding the game have been answerd before, and more than once.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:56 am

OK thanks to everyone.
I would like to hunt down the ST-V version as i am trying to find a titan st-v motherboard.
Any suggestions on good prices for a motherboard and someone who may have one for sale?

thank you.

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:42 pm

One of the hardest shmups out there. Its pretty good though. In my experience, none of the 3 versions are really worth a whole lot, theyre pretty common. the ST-V cart being most obviously.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:47 pm

Ceph wrote:Avoid the PS1 conversion at all costs.

What's wrong with it?

Post by **undamned** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:50 pm

icycalm wrote:
Ceph wrote:Avoid the PS1 conversion at all costs.
What's wrong with it?

Ceph wrote:Want to know more? Use the forum search. All question reagrding the game have been answerd before, and more than once.

-ud

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:56 pm

If "all the questions regarding this game have been answered before, and more than once" then why not stick that in FAQ, ban all discussion on this game, and have BulletMagnet come here and lock this thread too?

I mean, jeez. Inanity like this, I swear to God, only on the internet.

Only on the internet.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:00 pm

icycalm wrote:Inanity like this, I swear to God, only on the internet.

Only on the internet.

Wouldn't it be nice?

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:27 pm

Hi, Copeland. Note that there's a difference between Souky and Souky Otokuyo (both available on Saturn). Some people swear by the latter version, and in my experience it is preferable. Costs a few dollars more, but iirc there is less slowdown.

MikeB · Post by **MikeB** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:29 pm

A review from way back when the internet was but a mere whippersnapper in short pants:

http://www.stickycarpet.com/dam/damsouky.htm

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:40 pm

professor ganson wrote:Note that there's a difference between Souky and Souky Otokuyo (both available on Saturn). Some people swear by the latter version, and in my experience it is preferable. Costs a few dollars more, but iirc there is less slowdown.

I seem to remember the only notable differences between the two being that some text wouldn't display correctly in the first when some region-unlocker devices were used to play it, and the latter has the Garegga demo. As for the PS1 version, it doesn't look as good and has more slowdown, though it also has an extra (and overpowered) selectable ship and an additional mode, though I'm not sure exactly what's different about it. It also tends to be cheap to buy.

If "all the questions regarding this game have been answered before, and more than once" then why not stick that in FAQ, ban all discussion on this game, and have BulletMagnet come here and lock this thread too?

So I'm officially the forum boogeyman now?

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:09 pm

No comment!

I don't want to get on your bad side. There's enough people that hate me here already, I think.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:11 pm

Yeah, and everyone knows what a heartless hard-nose I am.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:21 pm

Wow it seems as though this thread has gotten out of hand to some degree.
Think i will go back to lurking this site instead.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:30 pm

Oh hell yeah.

Get the Saturn version if possible...ps1 secondly...but get it. A triumph by Raizing. Check out the YouTube clips....they tell the story.

Copeland · Post by **Copeland** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:19 am

ROBOTRON wrote:Oh hell yeah.

Get the Saturn version if possible...ps1 secondly...but get it. A triumph by Raizing. Check out the YouTube clips....they tell the story.

Thanks,
Ive just obtained the st-v cart.
Now need the motherboard.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:23 am

Copeland wrote:Wow it seems as though this thread has gotten out of hand to some degree.

I almost wish this was considered out of control.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:23 am

Ceph wrote:Avoid the PS1 conversion at all costs. Want to know more? Use the forum search.

Sorry, I don't feel like using the forum search right now, but I do want to know why the PS1 iteration is to be avoided? That's the one I play and considering it has normal arcade mode in addition to the PS1 exclusive special mode, I feel it's fine.

jp · Post by jp » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:26 am

Limbrooke wrote:
Ceph wrote:Avoid the PS1 conversion at all costs. Want to know more? Use the forum search.
Sorry, I don't feel like using the forum search right now, but I do want to know why the PS1 iteration is to be avoided? That's the one I play and considering it has normal arcade mode in addition to the PS1 exclusive special mode, I feel it's fine.

Same reason(s) people should buy DP for the PS1.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:36 am

Limbrooke wrote:
Ceph wrote:Avoid the PS1 conversion at all costs. Want to know more? Use the forum search.
Sorry, I don't feel like using the forum search right now, but I do want to know why the PS1 iteration is to be avoided? That's the one I play and considering it has normal arcade mode in addition to the PS1 exclusive special mode, I feel it's fine.

So what's that special mode like?

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:00 am

Saturn vs PS1

I have both...

Saturn version is more manic and sounds better through home theater. PS1 sound is bland...frame rate seems a bit slower too.

(this is my personal opinion)

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:03 am

Isn't there a extra ship in the PlayStation version?

I never play it before I only play the Saturn version. I like it very much as it is a good game

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:07 am

icycalm wrote:So what's that special mode like?

If you've ever played PS1 by default, then that's special mode. You have the choice to select a 4th 'yellow' ship, which is pretty good. There's a narrator too, and more story and cutscene business. Overall the difficulty is toned down from default arcade. However, I don't know if many (if anyone who has bothered enough) people know that you can change the mode to plain old arcade mode, just like it's found on Saturn. I haven't played the Saturn game, but unless it's mind blowing, I don't see how the PS1 game is in any way terrible.

jp wrote:Same reason(s) people should buy DP for the PS1.

The sound might be missing some of the 'omph' from Saturn, and the graphics might not be as clean, but the comparison of PS1 arcade mode and Saturn being similar to DP SS and DP PS1 isn't really fair, but then again I'm speaking as one who has never played it on Saturn, maybe I really should.

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:59 am

The sound on DP for saturn was fucked bigtime. this reminds me i need the PS1 version!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:28 pm

icycalm wrote:If "all the questions regarding this game have been answered before, and more than once" then why not stick that in FAQ, ban all discussion on this game, and have BulletMagnet come here and lock this thread too?

I mean, jeez. Inanity like this, I swear to God, only on the internet.

Only on the internet.

Lol, the first time I've ever agreed with something Icycalm has said D:

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:22 pm

Limbrooke wrote:
icycalm wrote:So what's that special mode like?
If you've ever played PS1 by default, then that's special mode. You have the choice to select a 4th 'yellow' ship, which is pretty good. There's a narrator too, and more story and cutscene business. Overall the difficulty is toned down from default arcade. However, I don't know if many (if anyone who has bothered enough) people know that you can change the mode to plain old arcade mode, just like it's found on Saturn. I haven't played the Saturn game, but unless it's mind blowing, I don't see how the PS1 game is in any way terrible.

jp wrote:Same reason(s) people should buy DP for the PS1.
The sound might be missing some of the 'omph' from Saturn, and the graphics might not be as clean, but the comparison of PS1 arcade mode and Saturn being similar to DP SS and DP PS1 isn't really fair, but then again I'm speaking as one who has never played it on Saturn, maybe I really should.

I never said the PS1 version was terrible...like I said I have both. I bought the PS1 version to see the extra ship. I just prefer the Saturn version to PS1 and stated the reasons why, but either way you can get it, its worth purchasing.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:23 pm

not ALL questions about the game have been answered before, i have one in the strategy forum right now, which i am waiting for the answer to :

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=16809

help me out please peeps!

LSU · Post by **LSU** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:15 pm

Limbrooke wrote:I haven't played the Saturn game, but unless it's mind blowing, I don't see how the PS1 game is in any way terrible..

You may be quite surprised at just how much better it is.
The main thing is there is far less slowdown on the Saturn version - this isn't just a graphical thing, it really affects the gameplay.
Then there are the graphical differences - the Saturn version uses the fancy scaling hardware to do high bit-depth, nicely detailed backgrounds. Whereas the PS1 version is by comparison, and putting it politely, a little ugly to look at.
So the Saturn version simply looks and plays a lot better.
The extra ship on the PS1 version is really the only reason I own that version as well.