Square restrictor, or octagonal?

koda · Post by **koda** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:45 am

Which do you prefer? I don't have a whole lot of experience playing SHMUPs with arcade hardware, unfortunately... when I think about it, it seems like a square gate would be better for these games, while an octagonal gate might be better for fighters.

If I was to use one stick for both genres of games, which might I want to go with?

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:46 am

Square. For shmups, everything I've heard says to stick with square gates. For fighting games, it's pretty much just preference.

Of course I'd recommend using a Seimitsu over a Sanwa too but that's just me.

koda · Post by **koda** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:01 am

Okay. I've got a stick coming with an octagonal gate. I was hoping it would be okay for both styles of games, but if it's going to make a significant difference I'll look into swapping the square gate back in.

What's your reasoning behind the Seimitsu > Sanwa? I figured a JLF would be fine.

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:42 am

changing the gate is very simple. they just snap on and snap off.

some of the more outspoken dudes around here will say they prefer seimitsu for its shorter throw. Some find the octagon restrictor more natural to the movements.

I use sanwa with square gate and seem to do just fine. But I do find the octagonal seimitsu's at my arcade to be pretty sweet too.

If I only played shmups I'd go with seimitsu, but I love fighters a whole lot too, maybe more. And I prefer sanwa for all my fighters.

Post by **system11** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:34 am

I find Sanwa far too loose, the throw really isn't great for twitch gaming in my opinion.

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:54 pm

Basically what Bloodflowers said. Sanwas are really loose so they are much harder to get a snappy and short stutter movement with. That's my only main issue with them.

I use Seimitsu for fighting games now as well. Doesn't really feel much different there than Sanwas.

borg07of09 · Post by **borg07of09** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:32 pm

i prefer seimitsus for fighters and shooters. sanwa is much too loose for my tastes. although if i did play with sanwas, i use the octagonal gate.

thegreathopper · Post by **thegreathopper** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:31 pm

Semitsu LS square for me with shooters and fighters. Sanwa just feel weird after playing with Semitsu.

koda · Post by **koda** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:55 am

Thanks, guys. I ended up going with an LS-32.

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:20 pm

There's a few different LS-32s too, but the only real difference is which mounting plate they come with, and what connectors the switches use. The LS-32-02 is the normal one for custom sticks now I think. If you got the regular LS-32, you might need to buy a different mounting plate.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:08 am

Regular LS-32 (as opposed to LS-32-0x) also means you can't use the 5-pin connectors so you'll have to solder in all 4 connector points on the stick.

nem · Post by **nem** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:14 am

Is there a LS-32 that has the same mounting plate as a Sanwa JLF (or lines up with the same outermost screw holes) and uses the 5-pin connector, so I could just drop it in? I don't really want to drill new holes in the CP.

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:47 pm

Seimitsu plates aren't the same shape as Sanwa. Also, Seimitsu sticks have a different height than Sanwa, so the whole mounting area is very different. That's if you're top mounting though, bottom mounting you might be able to find something but I've never done any of that.