Shooting Game Tournament 2007 (Themes/Game Selection Thread)

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:11 am

Rob wrote:Fuck an antacid, I have to take PPIs daily without any Seibu or Psikyo or other stress triggers (I'm not joking when I said "serious pain"). Kids, don't play Psikyo games for 2 hours a day for 1.5 years straight.

I await this topic ending by next page.

Kids, this is what Mars Matrix does to you.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:16 am

Mars Matrix couldn't be the cause. He's overuses the shield.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:21 am

zakk wrote: Kids, this is what Mars Matrix does to you.

And you just had to quote that on this new page, didn't you?

He's overuses the shield.

For life. To change sig... yes, maybe.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:53 am

I vote astro blaster.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:10 pm

Icarus wrote:you can force groups of bells off the top of the screen until the screen is clear of obstructions, and then you can work on getting them as colours

I tried to do that, but I would always fail. If I had a group of bells at the right part of the screen and another one at the left part of screen, I would only get the bells from the side that gave me more bells, and ignore the clouds on the other side, most of the time.

I should tried using more speed-ups. Goddamn, I think I could had broke 4.5 million now.

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:05 pm

Pirate1019 wrote:
Davey wrote:Jittery hands, rapid heartbeat, pseudo-Tourette's, and short-lived RSI I can handle, but stomach pain would scare me away from shmups for a long time.
I vote Parsec47 for Famous Manic Week and Hidden Gem Week.

How about:
Seibu: RFJ
Hidden Gem: Omega Fighter
2nd place: [not sure here]
Famous Manic: Dangun

Now that'd be a hoot. Not that I really know much about Omega Fighter; I just assume it's awesome. Aren't you glad I always vote?

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:10 pm

Raiden

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:12 pm

Davey wrote: 2nd place: [not sure here]

Dimahoo

Famous Manic: Dangun

Hah.

Suggestion for next year: please don't announce the theme of a week until the voting poll. I'm way too lazy to practice much of anything in advance.

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:28 pm

Rob wrote:Suggestion for next year: please don't announce the theme of a week until the voting poll. I'm way too lazy to practice much of anything in advance.

I was kinda thinking the same thing. Added bonus: theme selection whining might be somewhat contained to voting weekends instead of being drawn out over the course of the tournament. But probably not.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:33 pm

Who cares, this tournament sucks.

It makes me want to play MMORPGS instead.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:20 am

Davey wrote:
Pirate1019 wrote:
Davey wrote:Jittery hands, rapid heartbeat, pseudo-Tourette's, and short-lived RSI I can handle, but stomach pain would scare me away from shmups for a long time.
I vote Parsec47 for Famous Manic Week and Hidden Gem Week.
How about:
Seibu: RFJ
Hidden Gem: Omega Fighter
2nd place: [not sure here]
Famous Manic: Dangun

But none of those will give me a mild heart attack...or kill Rob.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:49 pm

How to get more than 5 million points in the Raiden Fighters series of shooting games, or Basic Medaling

Raiden Fighters 1, Raiden Fighters 2:

The medal system for these two games is initially dependent on your 3 medal levels:

the medals you can get with no slaves (10, 20, 30 ... 90) (tiny silver medals)
the medals you can get with 1 slave (100, 200, 300 ... 900) (small blue medals)
the medals you can get with 2 slaves (1000, 2000, 3000 ... 9000) (green medals)

Each of these medal ranks has a level of 1 to 9, with the corresponding point values attached to each. The medal level is raised by collecting all medals (with at least one medal that corresponds to your medal rank on slave count) on screen before exposing more medals. Dropping any medals in a wave will cause the medal level to not raise, even if you do collect the rest of the remaining medals or expose more, so avoid this if possible.

To get the 10k medals, you have to bring all 3 ranks of medals to level 9 (collecting the level 9 medals is not necessary until the last rank), and collect the wave of level 9 medals for the last medal rank you raise. The next medals that appear will be worth 10k.

100k Mode: To get even higher values of medals, expose at least 9 10k point medals without collecting them. The medal levels can now be raised in a Garegga-like fashion up to 100k, but dropping any medals will reduce the point value to 10k. In Raiden Fighters (1 and 2) the medal level can be preserved Garegga-style by collecting the highest value medal last, but in RFJ they can not.

Raiden Fighters Jet:

Medaling in Raiden Fighters Jet is a bit silly. Airborne Medals will follow the closest slave you possess, and can combine with other medals to become higher ranked medals, from a minimum of 100pts to a maximum of 2048000pts, in which any medal it combines with will be wasted. The airborne medal following you will start to fall off the screen if your last slave is destroyed, but will continue to follow your Slave as soon as you pick up a new one when this happens.

To access an alternative and less tedious medal mode, collect one 2048000pt medal, then expose 9 100pt medals. You now have the 100k medal mode previously described.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:42 pm

How to boot Seibu SPI games

Wait 6-10 minutes (4 if you have a Core 2 Duo 6850 and press the turbo key) until counter goes down to 000. Then set JP1 dipswitch to ON and reset MAME.

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:36 pm

Pirate1019 wrote:But none of those will give me a mild heart attack...or kill Rob.

I find Parsec47 to be exciting without being stressful (for the most part). Chains max out early, and the game gives out extends like candy, so the occasional fuck-up isn't a huge deal. Claustrophobic horis and anal chain-a-thons are a lot more gut-wrenching, IMHO (zero room for error).

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:50 pm

Twiddle wrote:In Raiden Fighters I the medal level can be preserved Garegga-style by collecting the highest value medal last, but in RF2 and RFJ they can not.

I think that's incorrect. RFJ is the only RF where you cannot rescue your medal values if you drop one, while in RF1 and RF2 you can (and I've done it quite a few times).

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:55 pm

I haven't given RF2 much serious time, but I haven't done that successfully in the Japan version, although I might have missed a medal I haven't seen after collecting that. Alluro has pulled it off in the US version.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:56 pm

Hidden Gem Week: Astro Blaster
It has a scoring system!!

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:48 am

Twiddle wrote:I haven't given RF2 much serious time, but I haven't done that successfully in the Japan version, although I might have missed a medal I haven't seen after collecting that. Alluro has pulled it off in the US version.

Nope, works in the Japanese version of RF2 as well. I have a clip of me in the stratosphere stage absent-mindedly missing a medal and then regaining it from a bunch that drop off a destroyed large bomber.

RFJ is the only strict one in the series with regards to medalling. Not surprising, given the faster pace and harder scoring techniques.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:59 am

Davey wrote:
Pirate1019 wrote:But none of those will give me a mild heart attack...or kill Rob.
I find Parsec47 to be exciting without being stressful (for the most part). Chains max out early, and the game gives out extends like candy, so the occasional fuck-up isn't a huge deal. Claustrophobic horis and anal chain-a-thons are a lot more gut-wrenching, IMHO (zero room for error).

Parsec47 isn't stressful, but it's the only game that I've had to stop playing because my hands were shaking too much to use the controller.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:44 am

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRALJSDHKLASKHLDKHL!HKL!!!!!

bsidwell · Post by **bsidwell** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:46 am

Zero Progears, two Bakraids. That is some Einsteining there.
You know, I would've been quite happy to not play a Cave game for Famous Manic Week.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:05 am

Shh, you're going to make people say the b-word again.

Zigfried the Trizealot · Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:45 am

Personal negative thoughts on a few of these hidden gem nominees...

* Whip Rush is a horrible game, it shouldn't be in any week where we talk about "gems".

* Metal Black has had Saturn and PS2 ports, it's actually a fairly known game. It's also not very good compared to other Taito shooters.

* Zero Wing is absurdly famous -- remember that damn video? -- and it's not a gem, either.

* Air Buster is listed on here twice. Unlike the above, it's not a terrible game... although I'd be hard-pressed to call it a gem, either. We should be looking at games that were ahead of their time, not games that were merely good for their time.

* Varth is another dud. We may as well put Satan's Hollow on this list.

* Kingdom Grandprix isn't hidden. It's also one of Raizing's lesser games, which is probably why it's less-played than others. Doesn't deserve to be in a hidden gem week.

//Zig

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:58 am

Kingdom Grandprix: Racing and surviving is literally impossible.

bsidwell · Post by **bsidwell** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:00 am

Well, everyone's just going to vote for Omega Fighter Special anyway, right? Right?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:02 am

All the high tier players are going to vote for it, so the only logical conclusion for the

s is to vote in an extremely shitty game with pretty graphics.

Gallop!

This is not to say Viper Phase 1 is a shitty game, it's just fucking hilarious to see all the bad players/noshows who voted VP1 get toasted even harder.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:05 am

We should be playing Eco Fighters for hidden gem week.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:05 am

How about no.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:07 am

Twiddle wrote:How about no.

My opinion > your opinion. : )

Rabio Lepus/Rabbit Punch would be a nice choice. I thought Hyper Duel was a bit too easy to clear. I think The Game Paradise has slightly messed up graphics in MAME still, it's not that big of a deal though. That would be interesting to play too.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:09 am

You voted for Gunbird, so your opinion is worth 1% less than mine.

(USS Vasara crew, even though it was a joke vote)