STGT 2k7- Week #1 Poll (Konami Week)

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:46 pm

funny, just when I thought I was doing a favor to everyone by choosing the game with the shortest stages and the only one with a score system different than survival... And all I hear is complain.

The only redeeming part is that I'm absolutely certain that any other choice would've gather the same ratio of naysayers. That's how internet works.

RyanDG · Post by **RyanDG** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:53 pm

Turrican wrote:The only redeeming part is that I'm absolutely certain that any other choice would've gather the same ratio of naysayers. That's how internet works.

Yep. That's exactly right. Especially since after screwing around with Salamander 2 last night I'm pretty sure I found an infinite milking point in stage 4 (maybe 5?).

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:59 pm

Part of the reason I chose Twinbee Yahho is because I have the PSX port, but now there is an argument over that. I'm hoping the home version will be allowed of Twinbee since, while I can MAME it, I rather not use MAME if I don't have to. I might have voted Salamander 2 or Gokujo if I had those, but I do like Yahho quite a bit. I ordered the Parodius Deluxe Pack from Japangamestock, but they were on vaction and the date they got back was cutting it too close.

Salamander 2 doesn't run well on MAME on my comp. It seems to play slightly slow and the sound is off. If I had the pack, I might I voted for it, though.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:07 pm

BrianC wrote:Salamander 2 doesn't run well on MAME on my comp. It seems to play slightly slow and the sound is off. If I had the pack, I might I voted for it, though.

It only runs a little slow for me and only when I'm in deep space. If it's a part of the game with walls on the sides of the screen then it runs fine.

I only have the vaguest of notions as to how the scoring works in Twinbee, but it's a vert so I like it better then all of the rest of Konami's stuff.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:19 pm

Pirate1019 wrote:
BrianC wrote:Salamander 2 doesn't run well on MAME on my comp. It seems to play slightly slow and the sound is off. If I had the pack, I might I voted for it, though.
It only runs a little slow for me and only when I'm in deep space. If it's a part of the game with walls on the sides of the screen then it runs fine.

It's the same with me for Salamander 2, but I still rather play it at normal speed all the time.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:29 pm

Turrican wrote:funny, just when I thought I was doing a favor to everyone by choosing the game with the shortest stages and the only one with a score system different than survival... And all I hear is complain.

The only redeeming part is that I'm absolutely certain that any other choice would've gather the same ratio of naysayers. That's how internet works.

Parodius has the exact same scoring system.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:36 pm

RyanDG wrote:Especially since after screwing around with Salamander 2 last night I'm pretty sure I found an infinite milking point in stage 4 (maybe 5?).

The bosses time out

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:56 pm

Zebra Airforce wrote:
Turrican wrote:funny, just when I thought I was doing a favor to everyone by choosing the game with the shortest stages and the only one with a score system different than survival... And all I hear is complain.

The only redeeming part is that I'm absolutely certain that any other choice would've gather the same ratio of naysayers. That's how internet works.
Parodius has the exact same scoring system.

On a superficial view, yes. But bells are easier to get in parodius and far more sparse. So, in the end you get two different kind of gameplay, because in twinbee more often than not you have to put yourself into messy situations just to get those damn bells.

RyanDG · Post by **RyanDG** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:00 am

shoe-sama wrote:
RyanDG wrote:Especially since after screwing around with Salamander 2 last night I'm pretty sure I found an infinite milking point in stage 4 (maybe 5?). ;)
The bosses time out

Kind of figured. Just didn't know. I wasn't good enough to screw around and find out (since the damn thing shot out tons of fast moving crap).

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:32 am

All I'm going to hear if Sexy Parodius did get selected is why the Hard version of Stage 4 is a complete bitch.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:40 am

Twiddle wrote:All I'm going to hear if Sexy Parodius did get selected is why the Hard version of Stage 4 is a complete bitch.

Also, why bother with completing missions when CASTLEVANIA stage is on the "failed" route.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:46 am

Turrican wrote:Also, why bother with completing missions when CASTLEVANIA stage is on the "failed" route.

Getting into the second loop.

Bloodreign · Post by **Bloodreign** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:36 am

I didn't think Sexy had a second loop but instead a Special stage that can only be reached if all missions are completed.

Edit: fixed a typo.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:38 am

Bloodreign wrote:I didn't think Sex had a second loop but instead a Special stage that can only be reached if all missions are completed.

That's what my ex once said.
*ba-dum-kssh*

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:39 am

Bloodreign wrote:I didn't think Sex had a second loop.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:42 am

Oh, the score disparity is just the supremely huge 1m per life bonus.

RyanDG · Post by **RyanDG** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:35 am

Okay, Twin Bee hates me. MAME just crashed on me when I was on my best run so far (hit stage 5 with 4 lives remaining and damned near 2 mil points).

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:20 am

Worst game in STGT history, no contest.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:39 am

Rob wrote:Worst game in STGT history, no contest.

Hiya Rob,

looks like we can agree on certain stuff,aside from Giga Wing being totally awesome, after all!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:41 am

Yeah, I can't believe I secretly wanted to play this over Salamander 2.

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:47 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Yeah, I can't believe I secretly wanted to play this over Salamander 2.

Can't believe you actually wanted to play Salamander 2.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:07 am

Oh wow, just played Salamander 2. People were hellbent on selecting the poorest game this week. Close match.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:33 am

Playing Bioshock is washing myself from all this Twinbee. Invigorating.

Also, Twinbee influenced my avatar change. If we get any good game this year (not likely, especially for Seibu Week) I'll change it back.

-Bridget- · Post by **-Bridget-** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:59 am

Rob wrote:Oh wow, just played Salamander 2. People were hellbent on selecting the poorest game this week. Close match.

Personally, I dont think ANY of the games on that list would really be all that great to do this with.

Playing this, is reminding me of WHY I stopped playing Konami shmups.

Oh, it seemed interesting, sorta, through the 1st stage.

Then I got to stage 2. With the you-also-have-to-scroll-left-and-right thing, which is SO damn annoying. And at least 3 times I've died without knowing WHAT killed me. Been a LONG time since I've had a shmup do that to me, traditional OR bullet-hell.

I probably wont have a score posted for this one till Friday. This game is just that damn irritating.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:20 am

I have no problem with this game at all. While the gravity thing may seem cheap, it's still possible, and not by random, to get through without a scratch. Same deal with the auto scroll thing. I also feel this mixes the game up and offers something different from many other shmups.

However, I feel the process for choosing the games should be done differently. I have no idea how Gradius III got chosen over Xexex or Gradius II. Four Gradius style games is a bit redundant, even if one of them does have a different power up system. Something needs to be done about the disparity between old school and new school and console games too.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:37 am

Icarus wrote: Can't believe you actually wanted to play Salamander 2.

I didn't, but I was forced to pick something.

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:55 am

I want a recount.

Sword · Post by **Sword** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:08 am

I want people to stop complaining.
Two more months of only posts like 'I hate this', 'worst game evar' and 'do i have to play this' does not sound fun to me.

Yace D · Post by **Yace D** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:35 am

I agree.Stop cursing and just play your way. It's just a tournament.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:45 am

Let's kill all people who voted for TBY!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C4nCy5CITc8

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STGT 2k7- Week #1 Poll (Konami Week)

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