Deceased Shmup companies...

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Deceased Shmup companies...

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Deceased Shmup companies

How many of the old traditional Shmup companies have long turned into stardust?

Some which I can think of:

Compile
TechnoSoft
Toaplan

But were Complile / Toaplan in fact the same company with changed name?
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ST Dragon wrote:But were Complile / Toaplan in fact the same company with changed name?
Compile sorta lives on as Compile Heart. Many Toaplan people split for Cave and some other shmup devs (Takumi is another one) when Toaplan went bankrupt. Compile and Toaplan are in no way related if you were trying to say so...

Seibu Kaihatsu is sorta gone, they've just been licensing Raiden out to this other team Moss for the last few games. I guess they could always develop another shmup someday but they seem done with that, fine with just slapping their name on the box.
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For some reason I always had the vague idea that Compile was in fact the continuation of Toplan but with a different name. So thanks for clearing that out for me.

Compile Heart? Do they still develop shooters?

... And what about IREM, didn't the state that R-Type Final would be their last shooter?
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Just a few:

Bankrupt:

- Psikyo (lives on as X-Nauts)
- Data East
- Gazelle (some staff went to Cave)
- Naxat

Stopped developing Shooters:

- Taito
- Irem
- Namco
- Capcom
- 8ing/Raizing
- Seibu Kaihatsu
- Yumekobo
- Hudson
- Kaneko
- Squaresoft
- Success


Quite sad, really.
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What are you crying about!? Yagawa is still making 'em!
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Icarus wrote:✞R.I.P. Raizing✞
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CIT wrote:What are you crying about!? Yagawa is still making 'em!
IT'S NOT THE SAME THING! ( ; ∆ ; )

Let me know when Cave allow him to do something like Soukyugurentai or Great Mahou.
(Yes, I'm aware they aren't Yagawa games, which is why I miss Raizing. IIRC Raizing wasn't all Yagawa.)
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Dimahoo was done by people who did Mars Matrix, btw

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Twiddle wrote:Dimahoo was done by people who did Mars Matrix, btw
Kind of hard to believe, but interesting I guess. I don't notice any similarities.
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Yeah, most of the usual gang from Raizing didn't show up in the credits there (it's more or less people who had credits in Bloody Roar and Mars Matrix)

Another oddity is that the 1944 team mostly had people who did Brave Blade.
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Twiddle wrote:Dimahoo was done by people who did Mars Matrix, btw
Oh interesting. Just Mars Matrix and not the GigaWings?
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Considering Giga Wing had basically the same staff with Mars Matrix I guess you can include that too
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No Milestone?
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sfried wrote:No Milestone?
What about them?
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Milestone is alive, and it seems it's made by ex-staff from Compile.

Compile is spread between Milestone, Aiky and Compile Heart.

IF Aiky is still alive, as its site seems to be dead.
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Something I've always wondered, does anyone know why 8ing / Raizing sort of has two names separated by that '/', and a separate logo for each? Are Eighting and Raizing two different dev teams or parts of the same company, or is it just a strange use of the '/' and it's really just all one name that should technically never be separated? Thanks!
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I don't get this thread. The answer is, like, nearly all. The Compile/Toaplan thing is particularly baffling.

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szycag wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:But were Complile / Toaplan in fact the same company with changed name?
Compile sorta lives on as Compile Heart.
Huh? Are you sure they are related?

NCS Masaya also went bankrupt.
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Didn't UPL become Sammy?
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CIT wrote:Just a few:

Bankrupt:

- Psikyo (lives on as X-Nauts)
- Data East
- Gazelle (some staff went to Cave)
- Naxat

Stopped developing Shooters:

- Taito
- Irem
- Namco
- Capcom
- 8ing/Raizing
- Seibu Kaihatsu
- Yumekobo
- Hudson
- Kaneko
- Squaresoft
- Success


Quite sad, really.
Yes indeed!

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No Psyvariar 3 sequel I guess, pity! :(

(Seibu Kaihatsu)
At least that Moss Company is still developing on their Raiden franchise.

I’m rather surprised to here that about TAITO though, their RayForce/Strom/Crisis games were one of the best all time trilogies, some of the few to actually have a deep story line.

Same for: Capcom, 8ing/Raizing & Irem. Sad loss!

But as for:

- Namco
- Yumekobo
- Hudson
- Kaneko
- Squaresoft

It’s been ages since they last developed any descent Shooter, last one I can remember for Yumekobo is Blazing Star (1998)! So their choice on abandoning the genre can be considered natural I guess.

But what about Konami, any chance they’ll be making a new Parodius shmup on any of the 3 new consoles? When you complete the Parodius games, it says in the ending sequence: “We Love Shooting Games!” ;)

Didn’t they also announce Gradius 6 for the PS3 ages ago?
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Rob wrote:I don't get this thread. The answer is, like, nearly all. The Compile/Toaplan thing is particularly baffling.

Never change, ST Dragon.

Why bother post then, Rob?
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ST Dragon wrote:But what about Konami, any chance they’ll be making a new Parodius shmup on any of the 3 new consoles? When you complete the Parodius games, it says in the ending sequence: “We Love Shooting Games!” ;)

Didn’t they also announce Gradius 6 for the PS3 ages ago?

They did announce a new Gradius for the PS3, but didn't mention if it was going to be Gradius 6 or something different. On all releases mentioning the game it simply said Gradius - PS3.
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Gradius PS3 has been delayed or cancelled completely AFAIK.

The niche that has become shmups, the shrinking of the amount of developers just means games will get better. The amount of money one company can make is much larger as they have become closer to a monopoly.
This industry has become 2 dimensional as it transcended into a 3D world.
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neorichieb1971 wrote: monopoly.
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ST Dragon wrote:I’m rather surprised to here that about TAITO though, their RayForce/Strom/Crisis games were one of the best all time trilogies, some of the few to actually have a deep story line.
Several of the team from G-Rev are formed from ex-Taito shooting game staff.
ST Dragon wrote: But what about Konami, any chance they’ll be making a new Parodius shmup on any of the 3 new consoles? When you complete the Parodius games, it says in the ending sequence: “We Love Shooting Games!” ;)

Didn’t they also announce Gradius 6 for the PS3 ages ago?
Otomedius.

And New Gradius Game is on indefinite hold.
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ST Dragon wrote:I’m rather surprised to here that about TAITO though, their RayForce/Strom/Crisis games were one of the best all time trilogies, some of the few to actually have a deep story line.

[...]

It’s been ages since they last developed any descent Shooter, last one I can remember for Yumekobo is Blazing Star (1998)! So their choice on abandoning the genre can be considered natural I guess.

Well, Taito made their last shooter, Raycrisis, in 1998 too. So what's the difference? :wink:
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CIT wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:I’m rather surprised to here that about TAITO though, their RayForce/Strom/Crisis games were one of the best all time trilogies, some of the few to actually have a deep story line.

[...]

It’s been ages since they last developed any descent Shooter, last one I can remember for Yumekobo is Blazing Star (1998)! So their choice on abandoning the genre can be considered natural I guess.

Well, Taito made their last shooter, Raycrisis, in 1998 too. So what's the difference? :wink:
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