Macross Scrambled Valkyrie on SFC highly underrated IMO

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Macross Scrambled Valkyrie on SFC highly underrated IMO

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Macross Scrambled Valkyrie IMO is probably the best shooter on SFC/SNES with great gameplay, decent difficulty curve and some of the best graphics on the machine.
Just I never hear anyone else mention it so I just thought I'd mention it just in case anyone one was on the look out for a new decent SFC shooter.

Stage 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ntQYJtVzgA

Stage 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ2qAolPx6E

Stage 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fC0ThNRm9EM

Last four Stages
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LYah08qb2C8


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HardcoreOtaku wrote:Macross Scrambled Valkyrie IMO is probably the best shooter on SFC/SNES
Second best.
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The game is great. I still need to get it.
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Nice. Might easily belong to a Snes shmups top ten.
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Rob wrote:
HardcoreOtaku wrote:Macross Scrambled Valkyrie IMO is probably the best shooter on SFC/SNES
Second best.
What game do you thinks the best SFC/SNES Shooter?
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HardcoreOtaku wrote:What game do you thinks the best SFC/SNES Shooter? :D
The moment he replies you'll feel legitimated to consider Macross the absolute first best. :lol:
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HardcoreOtaku wrote:
Rob wrote:
HardcoreOtaku wrote:Macross Scrambled Valkyrie IMO is probably the best shooter on SFC/SNES
Second best.
What game do you thinks the best SFC/SNES Shooter?
:D
Bio Metal, of course. Not to change the subject or anything. Macross is nice.
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Macross is the best one. Second best is probably R-Type III.

And Rob, while Biometal may not be as bad as everyone thinks, it's still flawed (and I don't mean the soundtrack of the US release). We've talked about it before, the main weapon is too weak.
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What part do you think is flawed?
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I edited my post.
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Rob wrote:What part do you think is flawed?
Atrocious slowdown. It makes look Gradius III Snes smooth.
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I think the weak weapon is worse than the slowdown.
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Ceph wrote:I think the weak weapon is worse than the slowdown.
The weak main weapon can be counterattacked by "hey, that was intentional from the godly persons at Athena's, so you'll learn to rely on the GAM".

The atrocious slowdown not. There's no excuse to code a Snes like that.
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Turrican wrote:There's no excuse to code a Snes like that.
Of course there's an excuse: Its CPU is the same speed as NES ;)
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Ceph wrote:Of course there's an excuse: Its CPU is the same speed as NES ;)
Recca :D :wink:
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For an old-school memory-heavy shmup it's pretty good, with its nice graphics and weapon variety. Not a personal favorite, but I'll agree that it's one of the best on the system.
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The GAM shield is basically the main weapon like the shields in Takumi games. You could clear the game just using that. The laser is pretty strong for additional firepower, though it requires a fair amount of precision. It's not supposed to be played just by traditional shooting.
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That said, I vaguely recall seeing replays on YouTube of someone going through the game without using the shield, so apparently it can be done (though I'm not sure why anyone would bother).
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Yeah, I linked that a few times. A better idea in theory, really, since my favorite part of the game is the shield. I think you could play only using it, not using it at all or normally. So both the regular shot and GAM are capable enough alone, together is plenty offense.
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Macross is great. Super Aleste and R-Type III are the best though. :P
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HardcoreOtaku wrote:Macross Scrambled Valkyrie IMO is probably the best shooter on SFC/SNES with great gameplay, decent difficulty curve and some of the best graphics on the machine.
Just I never hear anyone else mention it so I just thought I'd mention it just in case anyone one was on the look out for a new decent SFC shooter.
Nah, you're just a decade late. It was all the rage here back then. I think many folks here are a bit weary of 16-bit era games nowadays, for whatever reason. Scrambled Valkyrie is by far the most fluid Macross shooter, and probably the best anime-based shooter (although Area 88 is like the only real competition).
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Turrican wrote:Nice. Might easily belong to a Snes shmups top ten.
10 good shmups on the SNES? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh........ It might be better to call it the least worst.

Anyway...on my playthroughs I could never determine just what the hell was going to kill me and what would just damage me. ...I should probably figure that out...
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imo the second best shooter on the SFC is KiKi KaiKai but the thing is its not strictly a shoot em up in the classic sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKdYY6dwXhw


then i would go for R-Type 3, Area 88 then Super Aleste


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Damocles wrote:
Turrican wrote:Nice. Might easily belong to a Snes shmups top ten.
10 good shmups on the SNES? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh........ It might be better to call it the least worst.
Super Aleste, Pop'n Twinbee, Axelay, R-Type III, Parodius Da!, Gokujou Parodius, Oshaberi Parodius, Area 88, Macross, Super EDF. See, it wasn't that hard. :)
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Turrican wrote:Super Aleste, Pop'n Twinbee, Axelay, R-Type III, Parodius Da!, Gokujou Parodius, Oshaberi Parodius, Area 88, Macross, Super EDF.
yeh all great games! 8)
apart from SUPER E.D.F. ouch! :shock:
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Super Aleste
yuck.... :?
Damn Tim, you know there are quite a few Americans out there who still lives in tents due to this shitty economy, and you're dropping loads on a single game which only last 20 min. Do you think it's fair? How much did you spend this time?
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Strider77 wrote:
Super Aleste
yuck.... :?
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Damocles wrote:10 good shmups on the SNES? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh........ It might be better to call it the least worst.
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Ganelon wrote:I think many folks here are a bit weary of 16-bit era games nowadays, for whatever reason.
i could never get sick of pc engine.
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HardcoreOtaku wrote:yeh all great games! 8)
apart from SUPER E.D.F. ouch! :shock:
It's the dud of the bunch, no doubt about it... Still I like it better than the most obvious competitors, Biometal and Phalanx.
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I just played super aleste today on a zsnes rom. absolutely blown away, great game.
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