New Neo-Geo shmup -- Last Hope [also for DC]

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Mon May 07, 2007 1:09 am

I'm sorry for the poor souls spending money on this sub-doujin quality game. Especially when there are even free shmups which are more fun than this. Oh well. Life goes on.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon May 07, 2007 1:30 am

Specineff wrote:I'm sorry for the poor souls spending money on this sub-doujin quality game. Especially when there are even free shmups which are more fun than this.

Must....resist....flame bait...

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon May 07, 2007 4:20 am

those ebay prices are nuts.... all that money for the soundtrack? the regular version can be easily found at a much lower price.

Then again that's way I hardly buy anything off ebay now. I just use yahoo japan. way more to choose from and the prices are way better.

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Mon May 07, 2007 4:56 am

got my copy a few days ago. I haven't given the game a very good shot.

I find arcade mode to be very frustrating, but dreamcast mode is much better. I also play on very easy mode :p

I have yet to get past stage 2 but I really enjoy the presentation of this game. Many enemies are very cheap and can be very annoying but I actually like that in a sick twisted way. This game is like everyone's nightmare from the late 80's.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:12 am

Strider77 wrote:I just use yahoo japan. way more to choose from and the prices are way better.

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k45270539

WAY better indeed, only USD $250

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon May 07, 2007 11:29 am

I just use yahoo japan. way more to choose from and the prices are way better.

*sigh*... generally speaking all right. I picked up a Daft Punk CD the came packed with 2 Kubricks of them for a B-day gift. I would have had to pay around 160.00 on ebay but on yahoo japan I payed 60.00.

I was looking for the import Otogi 1/2 pack and on ebay it went to 90.00 on ebay but on yahoo I got it for 30.00 ect...

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon May 07, 2007 11:38 am

Strider77 wrote: *sigh*... generally speaking all right.

I know

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Mon May 07, 2007 10:37 pm

Strider77 wrote:
I just use yahoo japan. way more to choose from and the prices are way better.
*sigh*... generally speaking all right. I picked up a Daft Punk CD the came packed with 2 Kubricks of them for a B-day gift. I would have had to pay around 160.00 on ebay but on yahoo japan I payed 60.00.

I was looking for the import Otogi 1/2 pack and on ebay it went to 90.00 on ebay but on yahoo I got it for 30.00 ect...

seems like whenever i find something on there , the seller doesn't want to ship outside japan.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon May 07, 2007 10:45 pm

Returning to Last Hope, for what it's worth I don't think it's as disappointing as Broken Thunder.

Anyway, if this year's Top 25 is any inication, people don't like R-Type as much anymore.

(Very cool cover!)

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon May 07, 2007 11:12 pm

seems like whenever i find something on there , the seller doesn't want to ship outside japan.

nope... that's why you get a buddy in japan or use a middle man service like shopping mall japan ect.

ubersaurus · Post by **ubersaurus** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:02 am

Noooo I thought I didn't have to scroll past that massive R-Type picture anymore.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue May 08, 2007 8:49 am

ubersaurus wrote:Noooo I thought I didn't have to scroll past that massive R-Type picture anymore.

Look on the bright side, at least nobody posted this foul mouthed raped version again.

Btw, wouldn´t mind a Last Hope 2 (Laster Hope ?).
Shame they´re gonna do a vertical one now...

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Tue May 08, 2007 3:46 pm

Super Laydock wrote:

Btw, wouldn´t mind a Last Hope 2 (Laster Hope ?).
Shame they´re gonna do a vertical one now...

oh god NO!!!

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Tue May 08, 2007 4:57 pm

This thread is huge.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:20 pm

shinsage wrote:This thread is huge.

Seriously! And I'd still like to know if this game got a Neo Geo CD release.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:45 pm

dave4shmups wrote:And I'd still like to know if this game got a Neo Geo CD release.

TBA! Read the developers faq here.

Now the question you really should be asking is whether or not they'll include the Dreamcast mode or not in this release. It fixes most of the problems of the arcade version and is what made the DC version worth your money.

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:58 pm

You can now preorder Last Hope for NGCD.

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:04 am

this was posted in the ng forums..

*Release*

Release is early November 2007

*Game*

LH NGCD features now three game modes:

- Action Mode (New NGCD exclusive mode)

o Increased fire power
o Increased ship speed
o Difficulty was toned down
o Debris FX was reduced to increase visibility

- Normal Mode (Former Dreamcast mode)
- Arcade Mode (Original AES mode)

New features

- Bullets are now colored pink to increase bullet visibility
- Sound Test Menu
- Option for reversed satellite rotation
- Level select for training purpose

*DVD*

- This release contains a Super Play DVD
- 1 Life Clear (1LC) played by Plasmo.
- Technique guide
- Strategy guide
- Art gallery
- Omake section (Last Hopes predecessor / prototypes / early versions)

This release is strictly limited to 500 copies.

*Paper works*

- Offset printed tray card
- Offset printed booklet
- Offset printed Spinecard (with printed serial number 1-500)
- 2CD Jewel case (including CD/DVD)

*Pricing*

50 EUR

*AES customers*

Customers of the AES version are having an option to receive their free

copy of Last Hope NGCD LE. AES customers only need to pay shipping
costs. You will receive matching serial numbers. This option is only
granted to the original buyer.

sounds like it's worth checking out. but the pricetag is way too much for me. I also don't own an NGCD, and the neocd emu for dc has some bad input lag anyway.

jp · Post by jp » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:03 pm

I should be getting the LE of this in the mail sometime soon now (I hope).

It looks interesting, and I liked Rayxanber II, so I imagine I'll like this one alright as well.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:14 pm

I don't believe it! Sounds like they actually listened!

Still, I purchased the DC LE. I don't feel like paying another 50 EUR for a bugfix.

How about offering a patch to the people who bought the DC game?
(make an iso of the DC CD, apply the patch, burn to CD-R)

jp · Post by jp » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:52 pm

What is this bug you speak of?

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:29 pm

Humor. I meant the general shortcomings/design flaws of Last Hope DC which seem to have been adressed now. Which is a shame. They should have released the NGCD version first and a fixed DC version later.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:54 pm

Ceph wrote:Humor. I meant the general shortcomings/design flaws of Last Hope DC which seem to have been adressed now. Which is a shame. They should have released the NGCD version first and a fixed DC version later.

I think they shouldn't have released anything at all without the proper playtesting. This whole thing is LOL.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:20 pm

I kinda wanna see that 1LC...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:03 pm

iatneH wrote:
Ceph wrote:Humor. I meant the general shortcomings/design flaws of Last Hope DC which seem to have been adressed now. Which is a shame. They should have released the NGCD version first and a fixed DC version later.
I think they shouldn't have released anything at all without the proper playtesting. This whole thing is LOL.

I agree that they shouldn't have, but it's good to hear that the NGCD port is better.

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:24 pm

My DC copy remains on my shelf, collecting dust. I played it for a few days when I first got it, and that was it. I really have no desire to play it anymore. Weird, isn't it? I don't know. It just didn't appeal to me like I thought it would, judging it by the screenshots I saw before preordering it. I'll probably give it another go pretty soon. It's mighty difficult though. The farthest I've gotten was stage 2. No joke!

On a positive note, I listen to the soundtrack all the time.

ubersaurus · Post by **ubersaurus** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:54 pm

Oh nice, I was wondering what happened to the neo CD version.

I should let my friend with the neo CD know...he's been interested in this game

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:40 am

Actually, selling a hombrew game for 50 EUR (=72 USD) is simply not right and should not be supported as a matter of principle.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:19 pm

Incredible.

Someone paid that much for the special edition DC version? Its like the low end price of the AES cart. I wish I had money to throw around like that at a hobby.

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:57 pm

so owners of the AES get a free copy of the NGCD release since it fixes all the things people complained about....

what about dc owners!

I wouldn't complain so much if it ran perfectly in Neo4all for Dreamcast. but that emu has some rather noticeable input lag