RE: The shmups included in the Capcom Classics Collection.

durias · Post by **durias** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:07 am

How do they compare to their initial release on the PS2? Is the quality any lower?

Volume I

1942
1943: The Battle of Midway
1943 Kai

Volume 2

1941: Counter Attack
Varth: Operation Thunderstorm

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:34 am

Don't forget Eco Fighters in Volume 2.
I'm pretty sure none of them include tate.

Milkgoat · Post by **Milkgoat** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:41 am

There is no tate in any of the verticals in either, but the horizontals are fine. And there are a good amount of horizontals throughout the 2. Even if you can't stand shmups without tate, both collections are still worth it.

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:27 am

you forgot side arms and legendary wings. Legendary wings has been butchered IMO. Missing to emulate the slow down that is present in the arcade prevents you from going through some tough spots. The sound gets out of sync sometimes and the tile map is missing one square once in a while.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:43 am

After playing Forgotten Worlds on Vol 1, I realized how much I love the Genesis port.
still, great game.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed May 02, 2007 6:23 pm

shinsage wrote:After playing Forgotten Worlds on Vol 1, I realized how much I love the Genesis port.
still, great game.

The original CPS1 version of Forgotten Worlds had that cool rotatary knob spinner for that bitchin' cool 360 degree shooting action...can't top that! ^_~

I was never that good with Forgotten Worlds arcade game though...hard game with some fantastic visual imagery to boot..... ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Mark III · Post by **Mark III** » Thu May 03, 2007 7:55 pm

Looks like I'm the only one who bought volume 2 for Last Duel. I love that game but don't know why.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:03 pm

I brought vol.2 for Varth lol...

Both collections are awesome though.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:48 pm

Last Duel's great, it certainly has a Toaplan flair to it.
I know someone here said that some members of Toaplan worked on LD, but I'm a little wary until I see some names dropped.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Fri May 04, 2007 9:16 pm

Exed Exes > you.

So what if it's in Yoko? Just use a big TV.

One more plug :

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=10868

Grant Windsor · Post by **Grant Windsor** » Sat May 05, 2007 2:17 am

I bought Vol. 2 for 1941...wanted a proper console version of it besides the SuperGrafx rev I have. Unfortunately, though, I'd rather play the SG version. On a similar note, thank God that Taito finally included Tate mode in the two Taito Memories 2 collections...I really hate playing squished verticals on a normal TV screen. I think I was a little spoiled playing 1941 on the PSP in Tate...even though that was a tad awkward. For those who haven't picked the collections up...and you're a bit torn between the Xbox and PS2 versions...as much as I hate to say it...the Xbox revs are the way to go (I own both volumes for both systems), as they run more smoothly. Digital Eclipse worked better with the Xbox hardware for whatever reason...that was also evident with the Midway Treasures comps (play Smash TV on both systems for clear proof of that).

- Grant

Capcom Classics Collection (PS2/Xbox):

1942
1943
1943 Kai
Exed Exes
Forgotton Worlds
Gun.Smoke
Legendary Wings
Section Z
Vulgus

Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 2 (PS2/Xbox):

1941
Eco Fighters
Last Duel
Side Arms
Three Wonders
Varth

Capcom Classics Remixed (PSP):

1941
Forgotten Worlds
Last Duel
Legendary Wings
Section Z
Side Arms
Three Wonders
Varth

Capcom Classics Reloaded (PSP):

1942
1943
1943 Kai
Eco Fighters
Exed Exes
Gun.Smoke
Vulgus

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Sun May 06, 2007 11:23 pm

Grant Windsor wrote: Digital Eclipse worked better with the Xbox hardware for whatever reason...that was also evident with the Midway Treasures comps (play Smash TV on both systems for clear proof of that).

- Grant

Smash TV on the PS2 version has a shitty frame rate. IIRC, it is 30 FPS or even lower- worse than the PS1 rev found in Arcade Party Pack.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Mon May 07, 2007 1:24 am

gameoverDude wrote:
Grant Windsor wrote: Digital Eclipse worked better with the Xbox hardware for whatever reason...that was also evident with the Midway Treasures comps (play Smash TV on both systems for clear proof of that).

- Grant

Smash TV on the PS2 version has a shitty frame rate. IIRC, it is 30 FPS or even lower- worse than the PS1 rev found in Arcade Party Pack.

The Xbox and GCN versions both have better framerates. The GCN MAT1 has problems with poorly synced sound, though. MAT2 not only has PS2 specific problems, but it has some problems across all versions like an over clocked and unplayable Wizard of Wor. The quality between the Capcom Classics Collections for PS2 and Xbox is much more consistent. The games with imperfect sound have the same problems in both versions and there aren't any games that play with a lower framerate on PS2 like Smash TV in MAT1.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Mon May 07, 2007 5:02 am

SNES Super Smash TV > any other version of Smash TV

JusteZero · Post by **JusteZero** » Mon May 07, 2007 4:00 pm

shinsage wrote:SNES Super Smash TV > any other version of Smash TV

QFT

The music is far and away better on the SNES than in the arcade/any other version.

On topic...... Varth sure is fun, I remember playing it in the old arcade in Oshawa. The music is pretty catchy too dontcha think?

stuminator · Post by **stuminator** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:13 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:The original CPS1 version of Forgotten Worlds had that cool rotatary knob spinner for that bitchin' cool 360 degree shooting action...can't top that! ^_~

I actually prefer the analog stick setup that the PS2 versions of Forgotten Worlds and Eco Fighters use. Just feels so easy and natural to aim.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:10 pm

JusteZero wrote:
shinsage wrote:SNES Super Smash TV > any other version of Smash TV
QFT

The music is far and away better on the SNES than in the arcade/any other version.

On topic...... Varth sure is fun, I remember playing it in the old arcade in Oshawa. The music is pretty catchy too dontcha think?

Yeah I've been trying to 1CC this game heh... no going so well.

A lot of hidden suprises in this game though like a cameo of Ryu of street fighter fame being shootable for hidden bonuses heh.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Tue May 08, 2007 8:00 pm

Danny wrote:
JusteZero wrote:
shinsage wrote:SNES Super Smash TV > any other version of Smash TV
QFT

The music is far and away better on the SNES than in the arcade/any other version.

On topic...... Varth sure is fun, I remember playing it in the old arcade in Oshawa. The music is pretty catchy too dontcha think?
Yeah I've been trying to 1CC this game heh... no going so well.

A lot of hidden suprises in this game though like a cameo of Ryu of street fighter fame being shootable for hidden bonuses heh.

Post in my hi score thread, why dontcha?

Adigun A. Polack · Post by **Adigun A. Polack** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:55 pm

As for the many shmups included on both of the Capcom Classics Collection disks on PS2, 1941, Chariot (from Three Wonders), and Varth: Operation Thunderstorm are DEFINITELY my sure favorites!!

Also, as for certain games like Last Duel and Sidearms, they would totally have been considered so lifelessly unplayable for me on Volume 2 if it were not for the “Rapid-fire” feature, which I am so glad Capcom had successfully included in both of their compilations indeed!!! d=

=b

You know what would really have topped the bill on Volume 2: 19xx: The War Against Destiny (ever thought about that, people?). If Capcom were to include that game, it would have been sheer heaven for us right there, you know that?

(And by the way, I do have Volumes 1 & 2.

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RE: The shmups included in the Capcom Classics Collection.

RE: The shmups included in the Capcom Classics Collection.

Let me tell you what I think about both volumes here.