Anyone else had a hard time getting friends to play shmups

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:26 am

Nope, not me. Two of my best friends here love shmups, one of them owns more than a few of the same titles as me including RS. My brother and several other friends are casual fans and always let me know whenever they find a shmup cab somewhere. I can't wait to take them all on in Senko No Ronde later this year on my brother's 52 inch plasma.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:31 am

On this note, I'm having a "shmup virgin" over for a bit of gaming tomorrow...I'll hafta see how he reacts.

VeganZombie · Post by **VeganZombie** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:45 am

Not at all, all it took was some showing off in DDP and everyone was begging me to let them play.

I think once I get my hands on Mushihime, I'll officially be able to retire from my normal life and retire to a life of game-induced seclusion.

Or a coma, which ever comes first.

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:08 am

BulletMagnet wrote:"shmup virgin"

*explosive laughing*

That phrase made my night thanks.

Circa2113 · Post by **Circa2113** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:49 am

Sadly, I have no shmup loving friends. They are mostly of the "what the fuck, that shit's impossible" or "Just use more credits" varities.

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:34 am

This just in.

Friend: I remember playing this game! I think it was called G-Radius.
Khoa: You mean Gradius?
Friend: Soemthing like that, but it was called G-Radius!
Khoa: You mean G-Darius?
Friend: Yeah, that's it!

Not exactly on-topic, but something I've wanted to mention. :3

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:54 am

SFKhoa wrote:G-Radius.

Haha that's confusing... Yeah and there was one with "Gaiden" after the title... am I just dyslexic or what? haha

Inkvisitor · Post by **Inkvisitor** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:11 am

I consider myself lucky. Last time I took the gamble of poping in DOJ at a friends place, one of them reacted with:

"Why arn't they making games like this any more. Hey! I remember arcades!"

They ARE making games like that. You just forgot about them

Xargon · Post by **Xargon** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:43 am

I just make my friend depressed. I show some Perfect Cherry Blossom to one of my friend and he was like "holy shit sir you are a God." I just guess it would be too hard for him to get even to my level so he won't even try. I did the same thing for one of my female friend and she told me she couldn't do that at all.

Do I sound like I had friends? Well I don't.

Alec · Post by **Alec** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:36 pm

Yup, I don't blame em though, these games are pretty fucking crazy when you think about it. If people just want to lose to my insane fighting game skills instead, then thats their choice and I respect it.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:43 pm

Pixel_Outlaw wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:"shmup virgin"

*explosive laughing*
That phrase made my night thanks.

lol shmups steal your virginity

cuz they fucking rape everyone so badly

Asherdude · Post by **Asherdude** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:27 pm

Most of the guys that I know now couldn't get though the first level of any shmup on the planet even if I held a gun to their head. Their reaction speeds just ain't fast enough -- todays FPS have ruined them. But a lot of my older friends still have the touch.

mrkotfw · Post by **mrkotfw** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:38 pm

Asherdude wrote:Most of the guys that I know now couldn't get though the first level of any shmup on the planet even if I held a gun to their head. Their reaction speeds just ain't fast enough -- todays FPS have ruined them. But a lot of my older friends still have the touch.

Don't FPS games move pretty fast? I remember playing Unreal and barely kept up with the everyone else...

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:43 pm

lol reaction time is only part of it

I mean look at all those people who kickass at DDR or something. I can't do shit in DDR and I'm a pretty decent shmupper.

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:36 am

shoe-sama wrote:lol reaction time is only part of it

I mean look at all those people who kickass at DDR or something. I can't do shit in DDR and I'm a pretty decent shmupper.

Other way around for me.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:01 am

SFKhoa wrote:
shoe-sama wrote:lol reaction time is only part of it

I mean look at all those people who kickass at DDR or something. I can't do shit in DDR and I'm a pretty decent shmupper.
Other way around for me.

I fall short on both accounts.

fl0w · Post by **fl0w** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:23 am

I know a few people who like shmups, to various degrees.

- a friend i've met at the local fighting games association. Apparently he was very happy to meet another shmupper! He buys shmups.
- my boss. I've lent him a few shmups, he said he finished Gunbird 2 with a few credits and that his sons sometimes ask him if they can play. But he's not hardcore enough to do what's needed to play import games. With him and my colleagues, we play Burnout almost every day.
- there ARE people here who like shmups, but they're way more into fighting games. During fighting sessions, I talk to a lot of guys who like (or liked) shmups but... none of them has shown to the sessions I sometimes do at home.

And that's all :-/

Fighting games, racing games of, to a lesser extent, FPS are very social, playing vs the computer sucks. On the opposite, shmupping is better when you are alone. But i'd like to know a few more people with whom i could discuss, share experience etc.

Mills · Post by **Mills** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:06 pm

Pixel_Outlaw wrote:I have to pull teeth and endure endless hours of Blackhawk Down to get my friends to even look at a shmup. I know I'm not the only one....

I try to bring over some games and casually slip raiden in there it gets played for about ten minutes. I want to hear your frusterations of trying to convert the unbelivers

Why should you care if your friends choose not to play a shump. thats why we have this forum, to hook up with people who do care. im no fan of say stock car racing, baseball, or american football, but i can watch in appreciation of the skills and dedication involved.

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:09 am

I care because I want to play shmups with people in my area.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:10 am

Because it's also nice to be able to talk with somebody in person about stuff like this. I'm really lucky that one of my best friends is now an addict. Thanks to me.

HeLGeN-X · Post by **HeLGeN-X** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:28 pm

My friends play shmups, but certainly not as much as I do. I think I scared the shit out of my friend after showing him the final boss of Mushi' on Insane.

My other friends are pretty good, we're all good in a lot of games actually, every genre is my favorite because I love video games in general, but a lot of my peeps won't play shmups as religiously as I do.

thenoble1 · Post by **thenoble1** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:16 am

I had no problem taking to the genre, due to Pirate1019 having the balls to show them off. In my experience (which is short lived, since I only got addicted a few scant months ago) as long as you take the time to break a shmup down, explain how it is played, and maybe give a little demo of the "right way" to play it, most people take to them. Its SLOOOOWLY propagating in m town...

SOON WE WILL HAVE THE WORLD. Or maybe just an appreciation for our niche...

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:37 am

As it is, thenoble1 is plotting to find ways into my house to play my shmups while I'm not home.

thenoble1 · Post by **thenoble1** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:45 am

Pirate1019 wrote:As it is, thenoble1 is plotting to find ways into my house to play my shmups while I'm not home.

You gotta drop your keys sometime!

Or change to work out.

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:07 am

To be perfectly honest, it's really hard to find people that are into shmups. Especially in Toronto where all the overhyped games get the true attention.

It's actually rare to see people in my area that are into shmups. *points at Limbrooke*

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:42 pm

Can you say...Halo?

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:02 pm

Anyone else had a hard time getting friends to play shmups?

Not really. All I do is give them the P2 controller and they usually get really into it. But as far as I know, they only play shmups at my house. They're not into them as much as Iam. On occasion, they'll ask me to pop in that "one crazy ass game we played the other day". And it always brings a smile to my face.

Asherdude · Post by **Asherdude** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:12 am

Piratero wrote:
Asherdude wrote:Most of the guys that I know now couldn't get though the first level of any shmup on the planet even if I held a gun to their head. Their reaction speeds just ain't fast enough -- todays FPS have ruined them. But a lot of my older friends still have the touch.
Don't FPS games move pretty fast? I remember playing Unreal and barely kept up with the everyone else...

FPS don't require precision movements. They'll a lot more forgiving than most people realize.

I got in a discussion on another site about Castlevania SOTN on XBLA. We were all having a hard time making it to the first boss without taking a hit. But when the game first launched on the PS1 back in 1997, making it to that first boss was easy. Why was it so difficult today? Did they make the game harder? No - the game is a perfect port with HD only enhancements. Our conclusion was simple: todays 3D games have spoiled us. And once we played C:SOTN for a bit, we breezed though it with no problem what-so-ever.

The same is true for someone who's only played FPS. When they try a shmup, they'll get their butt handed to them every single time. They'll have to pratice for quite a bit to get those precise movements down. And it's hard to find a 360 fanboy who will put that much effort into a good shmup. Usually they'll just declare the game to be "stupid" and/or "shallow".

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:43 am

I agree with Asherdude. FPS require a good reaction time but not necessarily precise fine movements. Why do you think people like Rocket Launchers? Unless that is, it's a 'realistic' FPS. In that case it could swing the other way. The game is slow and methodical, but you need good precision to get it right. Older games or games that resemble older ones (shmups or fighters) rely less on one or the other and require you to have both precision and speed.

Or practice makes perfect. I don't fucking know.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:29 am

On the reaction time/precision thing with FPS, I have seen some people with absolutely insane flick rail skills in Quake 3. It takes a lot of skill and talent to get to a high level in those games, and just like shmups, some of it is physical or inherent, but quite a bit of it is practice and strategy.

On topic, I have friends who play shmups with me occasionally, and this goes back quite a ways with some of them -- ie, dudes I used to play Life Force with back in the day. For some reason though, they don't want to buy and play shmups regularly- they just play newly released, US titles. I think the obscurity and import barriers just hold people back sometimes, not any lack of interest. I lent Gradius V to one of them and he played the shit out of it. Good thing too, because that is one game that is incredibly fun when both players know what they're doing.

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