Ketsui for DS?!

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP · Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:06 am

Kiken wrote:Doom's patterns look hella-slow...

hella word

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:45 am

I'm actually more impressed with the GBA Ketsui demo, especially if it's real. It's actually running at a better frame rate than on the DS, has faster patterns than the DS one, and has tate.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:55 am

the DS? GBA? For Ketsui?!=

First, they were nice enough to let out the bag that their port of Ketsui was canceled without anyone knowing a port was even being considered. Now, its "....well at least there is the DS and GBA". These japanese game developers must have a secret stash of that good shit........

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:17 am

Oh, april, right.

This is most likely just a replay video stuck on an R4DS, M3 Simply, M3 Perfect or Supercard Lite and run through it's movie settings.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:11 am

Arznei wrote:Oh, april, right.

This is most likely just a replay video stuck on an R4DS, M3 Simply, M3 Perfect or Supercard Lite and run through it's movie settings.

I was about to say that (but I'm lazy).

But, how the hell the guy got a TATE game on a DS screen without the game looking screched out?

What about that extra shit at the end of the video where it shows the title screen?

I see Akira and some extra shit after Ketsui.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:25 am

Reminds me of the DOOM video posted on superplay.co.uk, or even this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wotZMGkR_0M

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:46 am

Arznei wrote:Oh, april, right..

While Japanese do plenty of things that fall under the category of "annoying bullshit" April Fools is not one of them. That seems to be reserved for us God-fearing, white morons.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:58 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
Arznei wrote:Oh, april, right..
While Japanese do plenty of things that fall under the category of "annoying bullshit" April Fools is not one of them. That seems to be reserved for us God-fearing, white morons.

I actually blend in with shadows, so I wouldn't know about that. I got your point though.

drohne · Post by **drohne** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:49 am

i don't know the first thing about japan, but i know irem has done some great april fools jokes on their website. bydo burger!

as for ketsui ds...uh...i guess i'd play it, but it's a pretty poor substitute for a ps2 version. even an imperfect ps2 version.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:24 am

this thread is 3 pages long already!?

look for the clues in the vid

eretsua · Post by **eretsua** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:43 am

Fighter17 wrote:
Arznei wrote:Oh, april, right.

This is most likely just a replay video stuck on an R4DS, M3 Simply, M3 Perfect or Supercard Lite and run through it's movie settings.
I was about to say that (but I'm lazy).

But, how the hell the guy got a TATE game on a DS screen without the game looking screched out?

What about that extra shit at the end of the video where it shows the title screen?

I see Akira and some extra shit after Ketsui.

well, here in the west there are a lot of people who put a lot of time and effort (and even lot's of money) in their april fool's joke. so if this is a joke on Arika's behalf they might have taken the time to cutout a part of a super-play video and edit some other graphics around it...like i wouldn't be surprised if they still had access to some of the graphics from when they worked on the port. so with (a lot of) effort and intimate knowledge of the game i'm sure they can conjure up a fake video that looks strikingly realistic.

ofcourse i would love to see a home version of ketsui but i doubt the ds is going to give it to us.

eretsua

segasonicfan · Post by **segasonicfan** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:50 am

I don't see why there's so many hard feelings toward a DS or GBA release. The PS2 version didn't get released because even if it did it would have been a horrible port (probably even worse than Mushi which is an awful port imo). So get over the fact that the PS2 version wasn't released and just get the damn PCB. It's not that rare and it's worth every cent.

That said, I love my PCB but I welcome any portable remix to the game. I don't care if it doesn't do justice to the arcade version at all, it's a portable Cave game with great patterns and decent music (and decent graphics) so that's more than enough for me. I'm excited for the possible release(s)

-Segasonicfan

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP · Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:07 pm

i cant believe any1 is taking this "clip" serious. i cant see why the japanese cant have a sense of humor "online". This clip is as bogus as Mongolian Kim Chee.

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:11 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
It'd probably finally convince me to get a DS.
I'll sell you mine. Hardly used!

if you hate handhelds why buy one

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:05 pm

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP wrote:i cant believe any1 is taking this "clip" serious.

Uh... b/c the VP of Arika referenced on his blog and said they're considering releasing it?

if you hate handhelds why buy one

Needed it for a few trips.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:16 pm

A very, very cruel joke. Those guys know my wet dreams (and yeah, I know that the d-pad sucks rear end, but still...).

It would have been better if they stretched the playfield over the two screens, though. Or controlling it with the stylus.

HeLGeN-X · Post by **HeLGeN-X** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:51 pm

Do any of you know that there's something for the DS to let you play movies? I mean if you were fooled by that video, you suck. You can clearly see the "game" quality is a different quality than the whole video itself.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:27 pm

HeLGeN-X wrote:Do any of you know that there's something for the DS to let you play movies? I mean if you were fooled by that video, you suck. You can clearly see the "game" quality is a different quality than the whole video itself.

So what you're saying is they coded a special version of the Doom sequence just to capture a movie of it to play on the DS?

Because that's not just a video capture from the arcade version.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:37 am

And for those that have missed it: Tiny Doom on the GC GBA Player.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:14 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Uh... b/c the VP of Arika referenced on his blog and said they're considering releasing it?

The DS video was posted by the VP of Akira, so something must be up.

The GBA video is fake all over it. The sound effects I herd are impossible on the GBA soundchip. Also the GBA can't handle all of those sprites.

So for people who still think the GBA port is something, it's lies.

Icarus wrote:And for those that have missed it: Tiny Doom on the GC GBA Player.

Impossible, the GBA can't handle all of those sprites!

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:55 am

Fighter17 wrote: Impossible, the GBA can't handle all of those sprites!

I'm guessing you've never seen BulletGBA then.

ReKleSS · Post by **ReKleSS** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:58 am

会場でダウンロードするとゲーム開始後、
各ゲーム内毎にカウントダウンが始まります。

What's this "会場" (meeting place?) he's referring to?

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:45 am

Does the GBPlayer even give a full screen resolution like that? I thought it used a smaller window with a wallpaper around it. Again, I call BS.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:04 am

Ok, what's this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuFKNFSbjb0&NR=1

Looks like DDP's (maybe the campaign version?) true end boss - but with DOJ's hyper?

mrkotfw · Post by **mrkotfw** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:19 am

Fighter17 wrote:Impossible, the GBA can't handle all of those sprites!

The GBA can handle up to 128 sprites. Even if the game does go past its limit, there are tricks to display more sprites during horizontal blanking. I think its possible on the DS since (I think) it can handle up to 256 sprites? It should be doable but with some obvious limitations like slow down, etc.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:24 am

landshark wrote:Ok, what's this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuFKNFSbjb0&NR=1

Looks like DDP's (maybe the campaign version?) true end boss - but with DOJ's hyper?

Looks like the mobile phone version, emulated or captured somehow.

iatneH wrote:Does the GBPlayer even give a full screen resolution like that? I thought it used a smaller window with a wallpaper around it. Again, I call BS.

Let me ask you a question. How come this clip of Tiny Doom is different to this clip of Tiny Doom, yet both games appear to have exactly the same screen layout? I've heard quite a few conspiracy theories disproving the existence of these already, however I say it's a beta or concept cartridge similar to Starfox 2 on the SFC, among others.

The plot thickens.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:25 am

iatneH wrote:Does the GBPlayer even give a full screen resolution like that? I thought it used a smaller window with a wallpaper around it. Again, I call BS.

The GBPlayer has a full screen mode. A window is there in the video, but it's hard to see. The high detail and sound does seem fake, but Icarus made a good point. You can see the guy's thumb controlling the game if you look closely in the GBA SP video too.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:24 am

ReKleSS wrote: What's this "会場" (meeting place?) he's referring to?

They meeting where people got to DL Ketsui Death Label onto their DS and try it out.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:32 am

I wouldn't be surprised if the makers of shmups aren't looking for a backdoor since I don't think next gen consoles are really an option right now. Everyone in Japan apparently has a DS, and many still have GBAs and GCs, so despite the non-believers, it at least makes sense on a motivation level. If the GBA is genuinely capable of what we're seeing in that video, then I wouldn't be suprised of some developer taking advantage of it.

nem · Post by **nem** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:57 pm

SFKhoa wrote:
Fighter17 wrote: Impossible, the GBA can't handle all of those sprites!
I'm guessing you've never seen BulletGBA then.

Vulkanon is another great example of what the GBA can do sprite wise.