Anyone else think Border Down deserves a sequel?

tehkao · Post by **tehkao** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:47 am

This game is really underrated IMHO...in the current sea of me-too shmups that all play the same, Border Down was different and actually brought something new and refreshing to the horiz shmup genre...sure it's not without its faults, but I really wish G-Rev would try to make a better sequel and expand on the ideas of the first game....

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:59 am

I'm happier that they're doing a new game.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:27 am

Compliment a game for being fresh and new and then wish for the same thing again.

This game has a billion hours of gameplay in it, so not really a need for a sequel until you've worn this out. I know some day I'll play it seriously. Some day.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:43 am

Maybe a soundtrack sequel...

8 1/2 · Post by **8 1/2** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:44 am

I think my dream sequel to this game would be a vertical game that used the same gameplay ideas. I really liked the "do or die" idea behind the bordering up and down system, but I'm much more of a vert player so I never put much time into this game. Also, I'd like to see all the weapons get a massive power boost. Something more akin to G. Darius when it comes to firing off a massive laser burst would be nice.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:41 am

I can't believe I am saying this but I hope G.REV arren't attempting a sequel for some years to come.

Border Down in itself is good enough and deep enough to litterally last another few years. Bringing out a sequel soon could only damage the name of the (now not, but if a second part would come out) series.
I cannot see much room for drastic improvements at the moment and besides some possible graphical upgrades, I think the game would be criticized for being "more of the same" and just a continuation of the first game.
That is unless G.REV have some SPECTACULAR new ideas and believe they can come close to matching the soundtrack of part one.

I'm with Neon on this one: I'm glad the are working on a totally different origanal game now!

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:29 pm

I'd like to say that a new Darius game is long overdue

U K Narayan · Post by **U K Narayan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:02 pm

Ganelon wrote:Maybe a soundtrack sequel...

I agree with this.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:22 pm

U K Narayan wrote:
Ganelon wrote:Maybe a soundtrack sequel...
I agree with this.

The Senkou No Ronde soundtrack is awesome! God I love Yack's music.

U K Narayan · Post by **U K Narayan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:27 pm

zinger wrote:
U K Narayan wrote:
Ganelon wrote:Maybe a soundtrack sequel...
I agree with this.
The Senkou No Ronde soundtrack is awesome! God I love Yack's music.

Uh, we were talking about Border Down, but yeah, the image soundtrack for Senkou No Ronde is awesome indeed.

icepick · Post by **icepick** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:25 pm

Hmm. In my opinion, Border Down is great, and its soundtrack (including vol. 2!) is fantastic (I didn't want to say "great" twice, but both are!).

I think that it should stay as-is, since there's really not much of a need for a sequel. Besides, I wouldn't want to have to say that one would be better than the other! I like how they went into a fresh project with Senko no Ronde, so it would be equally-agreeable (and possibly anticipated) that they would dive into something fresh and maybe unexpected. They're stretching their wings and finding new places as far as I'm concerned, and that's great to me.

So, basically:

Rob wrote:Compliment a game for being fresh and new and then wish for the same thing again.

That pretty much sums it up for me.

I wouldn't mind another Border Down at all, and I like G.rev, so I'm certainly keen on more works from them as it is. I'm sure that if they wanted to do a sequel, they'd certainly have some upgraded features which would be must-haves, but Border Down is extremely-impressive as it is. We could just as easily speculate on a sequel to Senko no Ronde in the future, which would be easily-imagined as "new characters, new levels, and game system modification" but you gotta admit, they're able to do things pretty perfectly well the first time around.

It's so easily to be swayed by popular stuff, though. Even I was just thinking, "Hey, so they've done a hori and a vs shooting; How about a TATE vert?" but there are so many already!

Oh, it's exhausting to think about. I look forward to anything that they bring out.

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:56 pm

I loved Border Down, but it's too soon for a sequel. I'm sure they did what they wanted to with it (G.Rev was actually founded in order to create BD, Star Seeker was just a quick way to raise funds). It came out great, lived up to its potential. There's no need for a sequel just yet.

Senko no Ronde looks wildly original and very fun. I'm anxiously looking forward to it, and I have no problem with it no being Border Down. G.Rev knows what they're doing, and I'll look forward to whatever they choose to do next.

alpha5099 · Post by **alpha5099** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:52 pm

I'd really like to see G. Rev come out with more original games. Senko no Ronde looks fantastic, I can't wait to play it. A Border Down sequel wouldn't be bad, but the team is obviously extremely talented and imaginative, I think they could come up with lots more fresh and new ideas.

The Bullet Dodger · Post by **The Bullet Dodger** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:57 pm

Skyline wrote:I'd like to say that a new Darius game is long overdue

Ditto.

I mean, Border Down does have a Darius feel to it, IMO. Everytime I play it, I make a wish for a new Darius game.

As for a Border Down sequel, I'd love to see one in maybe a year or two. It deserves one.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:52 am

U K Narayan wrote:
zinger wrote:
U K Narayan wrote: I agree with this.
The Senkou No Ronde soundtrack is awesome! God I love Yack's music.
Uh, we were talking about Border Down, but yeah, the image soundtrack for Senkou No Ronde is awesome indeed.

I know, just thought this would be good enough. Same composer, same style , only better. Is it absolutely necessary it's called Border Down 2?

JigsawMan · Post by **JigsawMan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:37 pm

tehkao wrote:This game is really underrated IMHO...in the current sea of me-too shmups that all play the same, Border Down was different and actually brought something new and refreshing to the horiz shmup genre...sure it's not without its faults, but I really wish G-Rev would try to make a better sequel and expand on the ideas of the first game....

I'd rather they made a DDP clone. Forget originality, there is some so alluring about Cave-esque games. Everyone (including me) screams like 9-year old girls when a new cave game is announced so I know I can;t be too wrong. Plus I found border down too hard and it made me mad. So I guess that the real reason I don't want a sequel - although I would probably still buy it thanks to this forum having some powers that make me buy every game mentioned. Stupid Terra Cresta 3D purchase....

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:18 pm

It would be interesting if Taito would commission to G.Rev a Darius game. You would have G.Rev (who all worked on G.Darius) to produce an OFFICIAL Darius sequel after the UNOFFICIAL sequel (i.e. Border Down, in case anyone has doubts...). So they would end up like Treasure, doing sequels for their former employer. Bizarre, some G.Rev members worked on Gradius V, btw...

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:38 pm

At this point I'd probably be more eager to see a lower-priced port of the first BD on another system, so I would have a chance to buy it at a non-ridiculous price.

llabnip · Post by **llabnip** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:10 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:At this point I'd probably be more eager to see a lower-priced port of the first BD on another system, so I would have a chance to buy it at a non-ridiculous price.

Man... I haven't been on the boards for a while but I remember a time when Border Down was squated on by the majority of folks here as being sub-par and even a bit bland (sonically, visually and gameplay-wise). I'm amazed at the turnaround on this title - it seems to be getting cult-like status these days. I always liked it - it was the _other_ high score thread I ran but it didn't have a huge number of participants.

Makes me long even more for Trizeal... general concensus "meh" shmups sometimes turn out to be true long-lasting gems after the initial (and often heated) banter on them dies down.

Oh... and count me amonst those that don't care if a sequel comes out. BD was great, is great and will likely continue to be great. Great games should last a lifetime - there are still some winners from the Atari 2600 days that I still play as feverously now as I did then. Longevity is a good sign in a video game and I think the original BD will ultimately have a long lifespan.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:58 pm

Dude, it's only $60 used w/spine for the regular edition and $70 used for the LE, and that's on Ebay. Not ridiculous at all unless you're looking to buy a sealed LE.

Yeah, I remember when people here considered it a mediocre, forgettable effort. I personally don't thoroughly enjoy the game yet.

uwfan · Post by **uwfan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:11 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

BD on ebay right now, 3 days left only at $0.99 with only 1 bid currently.

tehkao · Post by **tehkao** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:56 pm

I don't see what's so bland about the game compared to other 3D shmups. Sure, maybe the backgrounds aren't as colorful as Ikaruga, but everything about the game looks really polished and detailed....

Plus there's like 3 multiple paths for each stage, giving you like what, 18 stages? That's way more variety than any other shmup can offer.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:21 pm

Ganelon wrote:Dude, it's only $60 used w/spine for the regular edition and $70 used for the LE, and that's on Ebay. Not ridiculous at all unless you're looking to buy a sealed LE.

On my budget that's a good chunk of change...people were flabbergasted at some of the asking prices I have on my "take my money!" thread when I first put it up (and probably still are, they just don't bother razzing me about them anymore). Also, I've played the game before and, while I like it enough to not mind picking it up, I'm not looking to spend as much on it as is the current going price. Not to say that others who think that the game is worth every penny are somehow misguided or something, it's just my personal taste...and financial situation.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:24 am

llabnip wrote:
Man... I haven't been on the boards for a while but I remember a time when Border Down was squated on by the majority of folks here as being sub-par and even a bit bland ...

Yup, isn't it great! I think BD is a sleeper hit--takes a while to warm up to. I also think we do have a bit of a hearding phenomena here from time to time. Sometimes it is just cool not to like a game (or the reverse, cool to acknowledge that a game is top-tier).

No one will ever respect me for being a Gun Frontier fan, but I won't let them keep me down!!!

As far as a BD sequel...man, as soon as I can beat the third level, then hells yeah!

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:25 am

BulletMagnet wrote: On my budget that's a good chunk of change...people were flabbergasted at some of the asking prices I have on my "take my money!" thread when I first put it up

Ahh, my bad. Didn't think of it that way.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:07 pm

I liked BD. some levels reminded me of Aero Blaster from PCE/Genesis & Arcade.

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