Your opinions on the lower tier Saturn shooters

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:28 am

Capcom Generation 4 (but do get it for MERCS)

When I bought it I'd thought I'd be playing Mercs the whole time but I was pleasantly surprised at just how awesome Gun.Smoke was. Easily the best game on the pack if you ask me.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:38 am

*nod* I picked up this pack for Gunsmoke alone, and I never even played the arcade version, which is MUUUCH different from the NES version. I'm really loving the arcade version of it ^_^

I was going to comment on So-So TSS too (I actually thought I did?). Twinkle Star Sprites belongs in the Good. And if you added a Great section to shrink the Good one a bit, it'd jump up there. MUST be played multiplayer though, I've never played the single player, but if it's anything like the difference in solo/multi with Phantasmagoria of Flower View (Touhou knockoff of TSS), then solo blows in comparison.

jp · Post by jp » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:34 pm

Eh, I would primarily disagree with Fantasy Zone, Gun Frontier, and the Capcom collections being in the "No" category (maybe even the MSX Collection even though it gives me a headache. But it DOES have Knightmare). Though I also consider Twinkle Star Sprites, Blast Wind, and Metal Black good.

SkylineR32 · Post by **SkylineR32** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:09 pm

[quote=Heya SkylineR32 (man it's weird typing out the whole thing, but there's a "Skyline" running around too I'm pretty sure) ^_^ The big turnoff for me with Dezaemon is that I have no creativity whatsoever. No matter what I do with it, I'm sure I'll churn out something that I don't really care for. =D[/quote]

LOL, Deza is not one of the lower tier IMO, it's just that you hadn't mentioned it and don't own it. What you should know though is that it comes with 5 games already on it! They are more 16bit type things but hey, it's 5 shooters!

As for Twinkle Star Sprites, I know it's all personal tastes and opinions, but how it couldn't be near the top of someone's list is beyond me.

jp · Post by jp » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:17 pm

TSS 2-player is definitely one of the best gaming experiences ever.

And the Saturn version has the nice little graphical upgrades.

Too bad it doesn't eliminate the slow down like the DC version can though. Ah well, still better than the AES/NGCD incarnations.

SkylineR32 · Post by **SkylineR32** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:42 pm

TSS for the DC is the only DC shooter I haven't bought. I got every other single one on the day they were released. I never bothered as I had the Saturn version already. I still think I'll get it one day

jp · Post by jp » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:46 pm

You should. TSS running with absolutely no slow down is pretty cool actually.

Though the Satty version still has the graphical enhancements and the school girl character. So... its probably still the best version available.

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:05 pm

Grant has a great list - except that KK Tiger 2-plus and X-Multiply should be at the very top.

SkylineR32 · Post by **SkylineR32** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:56 am

jp wrote:You should. TSS running with absolutely no slow down is pretty cool actually.

Though the Satty version still has the graphical enhancements and the school girl character. So... its probably still the best version available.

Well, I'd always read that the Saturn version was better than the NeoGeo ones and when the DC one came out, all the reviews said don't bother if you already have the Saturn version, lol.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:14 am

SkylineR32 wrote:
jp wrote:You should. TSS running with absolutely no slow down is pretty cool actually.

Though the Satty version still has the graphical enhancements and the school girl character. So... its probably still the best version available.
Well, I'd always read that the Saturn version was better than the NeoGeo ones and when the DC one came out, all the reviews said don't bother if you already have the Saturn version, lol.

Well, the DC one offers 2 things over the Saturn version:
NO slowdown (whereas the Saturn has a little when you use a bomb if I recall correctly, nothing too bad, but still annoying).
English

So the DC TSS is definitely worth checking out.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:43 am

jp wrote:English

Well, if you use a very liberal definition of the word, maybe.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:20 am

BulletMagnet wrote:
jp wrote:English

Well, if you use a very liberal definition of the word, maybe.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Awesome. Yes yes, engrish! But hell, that makes it even better no?

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:38 am

Just for the record: I wouldn't like Castle Shikigami 2 NEARLY as much if not for the translation. My favorite part was the one line of voice acting that was still in Japanese. Now THAT was random o_O I laughed so hard.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:17 pm

Gun frontier lower tier? Played it today felt very slow... only got 60 seconds on it so no opinion just yet.

SkylineR32 · Post by **SkylineR32** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:31 am

jp wrote:
SkylineR32 wrote:
jp wrote:You should. TSS running with absolutely no slow down is pretty cool actually.

Though the Satty version still has the graphical enhancements and the school girl character. So... its probably still the best version available.
Well, I'd always read that the Saturn version was better than the NeoGeo ones and when the DC one came out, all the reviews said don't bother if you already have the Saturn version, lol.

Well, the DC one offers 2 things over the Saturn version:
NO slowdown (whereas the Saturn has a little when you use a bomb if I recall correctly, nothing too bad, but still annoying).
English

So the DC TSS is definitely worth checking out.

Yeah, definitely slowdown in the Saturn version. Still, not as bad as other games.

Anyway, not only did Last Hope arrive today but so did Kingdom Grandprix. I'm off to check it out now.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:55 am

JoshF wrote:
Capcom Generation 4 (but do get it for MERCS)
When I bought it I'd thought I'd be playing Mercs the whole time but I was pleasantly surprised at just how awesome Gun.Smoke was. Easily the best game on the pack if you ask me.

Agreed, Gun.Smoke in tate format is beautiful to behold. I must play this again soon. Very addictive.

jp · Post by jp » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:07 pm

SkylineR32 wrote:
jp wrote:
SkylineR32 wrote: Well, I'd always read that the Saturn version was better than the NeoGeo ones and when the DC one came out, all the reviews said don't bother if you already have the Saturn version, lol.

Well, the DC one offers 2 things over the Saturn version:
NO slowdown (whereas the Saturn has a little when you use a bomb if I recall correctly, nothing too bad, but still annoying).
English

So the DC TSS is definitely worth checking out.
Yeah, definitely slowdown in the Saturn version. Still, not as bad as other games.

Anyway, not only did Last Hope arrive today but so did Kingdom Grandprix. I'm off to check it out now.

Yeah... Saturn version at least has LESS slowdown than the AES/Neo-Geo CD versions.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:03 pm

Gun Frontier is the shooter I showed some of my younger friends a few years back...they wondered how you can even see what's coming since it seems so fast :lol:

That was arcade, though I bet the Saturn version isn't too different.

I like Metal Black quite a bit. Gameplay isn't incredibly special compared to some games, but it works just fine. The rest of the game comes together to make it a great experience.

I'm not sure what I think of Kyuukyoku Tiger +. It seems competent enough in MAME, especially now that I can play it full-size. But...too easy first stage and then BOSS TIME! You die.

jp · Post by jp » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:00 pm

Kyuukyoku Tiger II|+ moved way to fast IMO. Rather, the bullets move way too fast in proportion to the speed of your helicopter.

But its alright if you have the green homing weapon thingy.

As for Gun Frontier, its a competent enough game. Its really hard to diss the game that inspired Battle Garegga as far as I'm concerned though.

I love Metal Black personally. I think the music is awesome and the gameplay is very cool indeed. I just think the bonus level things are lame since they dictate your score more than anything.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:04 pm

It might also be worth noting that you pretty much NEED to be able to play in tate on KT2+...if memory serves both Yoko modes are "wobbly," and a real pain in the kiester.

jp · Post by jp » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:05 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:It might also be worth noting that you pretty much NEED to be able to play in tate on KT2+...if memory serves both Yoko modes are "wobbly," and a real pain in the kiester.

I dunno if I've ever played KT2+ in TATE. I'll have to give it a shot this evening.