I have just enough money to buy Radiant Silvergun.

[Specineff]

Specineff likes to buy Radiant Silverguns. How many have you owned?

About seven. And the good thing is that whenever I have re-sold them, it's because I needed the money and never lost a cent in the game, whenever a profit could not be made.

[Ceph]

Somebody offered you one for 150, and no replies were made. I'd buy it if I had the money.

Indeed, for 150 it's a no-brainer. Go buy it from Koa Zo. For the rest, buy Soukyugurentai*, which in the opinion of many is the Saturn's second best.

Case closed.


*There are two versions of Soukyugurentai, the original release and Soukyugrentai Otokuyo. Both are identical, but the original has some garbled text when played in a non-Japanese Saturn. Otokuyo also features a playable demo of Battle Garegga.

[scrilla4rella]

Dude! if you have gotten that far on Gradius V and Shikigami 2 then why not just take it to the next level and get Garegga and Batsugun for SS. If you got the system then definatly buy some games for that.

RS is an amazing game though, but for me nothing beats Tate oriented blasting. I guess it all goes back to your taste. As mentioned before RS is very technical, but my tastes have moved away from that style towards more arcade/ twitch/ bomb sort of games--so I would give Garrega and Batsugun the edge.

[JoshF]

Someday people will discover Soukyuugurentai isn't really a shump, it's a lock 'em up. Shooting games don't punish you for shooting and you don't have to avoid powerups like they're bullets.

I'd say go for Batsugun.

[LSU]

It's good to treat yourself once in a while. If you really think this is the only chance you have to afford it in the next four years, I say go for it. As other folks have said, if you decide it's not for you, you can simply re-sell it for about the same price anyways.

[Mikey]

Save your money and buy nothing. Only buy a game when you feel you really want it, not just because you have money enough.

[Ceph]

Save your money and buy nothing. Only buy a game when you feel you really want it, not just because you have money enough.

What are you, a communist? Ban please!

[Shotgunfacelift]

Don't buy it its overrated.
If your new have some fun and get a dreamcast and perhaps Radirgy.

[Valgar]

Don't buy it its overrated.
If your new have some fun and get a dreamcast and perhaps Radirgy.

ban pls.

[Shotgunfacelift]

Ive got it , well had it now for 3 years. Played it 5 times if that..
very slow game.. Perhaps the arcade version may be the go?
not fun at all..
Feels like math.

[qatmix]

I had it on release and even now its not in my top ten, I can appreciate why peole love it but its never really clicked with me. I gave it to a friend about a year ago who loved it (And promptly lost it.. that tested our friendship)

Although, if this your only chance to buy it in 6 years it might be worth going for.

I personally would get ikaruga, border down, Under defeat, gigawing2(us) as they are all excellent shooters. You will probably have enough cash left over to buy an arcade stick for that authentic shooter experience (Joypads are the devils work)

[cigsthecat]

I suggest you play Gunbird 2 and spend the money on whores.

[Arznei]

Don't buy a game due to hype. If it feels good, do it, but does it?

Let me explain:

Touch Detective - Great game - Mediocre score on IGN - sells poorly due to this and it being an Atlus title.
God Hand - Great game - Mediocre score on IGN - sells poorly due to it being hard and overall difficult.

There's 2 games to think about. Now think about Radiant Silvergun and how many people have boasted it, and how much you'll be disappointed if you don't enjoy it.

FORCING yourself to like something doesn't make sense

[jpj]

And since the print run of Radiant Silvergun was 50,000 copies

proof please. oh? what? you *don't* work for ESP...?

let's keep it simple: do you like ikaruga? if yes, buy it. if no, buy it anyway and start an "RSG is overrated thread".

[stratos]

I think a good suggexstion coul'd be: go to www.super-play.co.uk, database search, Radiant Silvergun, and downolad some supreplays: these videos give you an idea of game design-music and also of how the game shoul'd be played.

[Ceph]

And since the print run of Radiant Silvergun was 50,000 copies

proof please. oh? what? you *don't* work for ESP...?

let's keep it simple: do you like ikaruga? if yes, buy it. if no, buy it anyway and start an "RSG is overrated thread".

The number quoted comes from gamestate.net, which unfortunately does no longer exist, but you can still see it here:
http://www.ownt.com/qtakes/2003/gamesta ... stats.shtm

PS. Ban plz.

[jpj]

www.ireaditontheinternetsoitmustbetrue.com says you're wrong.

[Ceph]

www.ireaditontheinternetsoitmustbetrue.com says you're wrong.

Gamestate was a printed magazine.

PS.
Ban plz

[Bishamon]

I'm not a huge fan of RSG. I (luckily, I suppose) picked it up when it was first released, so I paid a reasonable price for it, but it isn't my favourite shmup on the Saturn. I prefer Battle Garegga, Soukyugurentai, or even Shienryu. I suppose my taste in shmups is more simple.

[Kaede]

Pretty much what jpj said is almost spot on:

let's keep it simple: do you like ikaruga? if yes, buy it. if no, buy it anyway and start an "RSG is overrated thread".

I *HAD* to get RS after playing the hell out of Ikaruga first. If you don't like Ikaruga with it's intense memorisation, RSG isn't for you...

Go get a cheap gamecube with Ika and if you love that then spend the readies on Silvergun.

I think it's an awesome game...

[xghostsniperx]

Well, I think the comparisons to Ikaruga are apt enough. I really can't stand whole polarity/chaining thing and I hate when Ikaruga just gets really slow during the "puzzle" elements of the game.

I'll hold off on buying it for awhile, thanks guys.

[Kaede]

Oh dear...it's safe to say you will HATE Radiant Silvergun!

Hey, at least now you've got the cash to spend on other shmups!

[shinsage]

let's keep it simple: do you like ikaruga? if yes, buy it. if no, buy it anyway and start an "RSG is overrated thread".

I love Ikaruga like a son and hate RSG like a bastard.

[Ceph]

let's keep it simple: do you like ikaruga? if yes, buy it. if no, buy it anyway and start an "RSG is overrated thread".

I love Ikaruga like a son and hate RSG like a bastard.

Hey, I didn't say that. And I enjoy RSG more than Ikaruga.

Well, I think the comparisons to Ikaruga are apt enough. I really can't stand whole polarity/chaining thing and I hate when Ikaruga just gets really slow during the "puzzle" elements of the game.

I'll hold off on buying it for awhile, thanks guys.

You should take into consideration that the Saturn port of RSG includes a "Saturn Mode" which allows you to store your weapon levels; that means you can power up and play it like an ordenary shmup without color-chaining.

[llabnip]

Well, I think the comparisons to Ikaruga are apt enough. I really can't stand whole polarity/chaining thing and I hate when Ikaruga just gets really slow during the "puzzle" elements of the game.

I'll hold off on buying it for awhile, thanks guys.

It's safe to say you won't like Silvergun. Best to hold off.

For me, Radiant Silvergun isn't just the best shooter, it's my all-time favoraite game. Nothing else really comes close. It's a slow-manic-thinking man's shooter with so many multiple "oh shit" moments you woulnd't bellieve it until you see it. But it's not for everyone.

And as far every sane report I've read over the years, there were 50,000 copies of Silvergun printed. It's not rare - the demand is higher than the supply.

[Ceph]

[...] Soukyuugurentai isn't really a shump [...] Shooting games don't punish you for shooting and you don't have to avoid powerups like they're bullets.

Are you sure you weren't really thinking about Garegga instead when you typed this?

[iatneH]

I don't think so. In Souky you should always be using only the lock-on weapon, and never power up your normal shot.

[Icarus]

We can't stop here. This is bat country.

P.S. $200 = three or four games of equal quality. Do the math - one huge investment that you may or may not like, or three or four games which you can be sure will last you ages. You're missing Dodonpachi Daioujou (PS2), Border Down (DC) and Garegga/Soukyu (Saturn) from what I can see on your posted list.

[Ceph]

We can't stop here. This is bat country.

P.S. $200 = three or four games of equal quality. Do the math - one huge investment that you may or may not like, or three or four games which you can be sure will last you ages. You're missing Dodonpachi Daioujou (PS2), Border Down (DC) and Garegga/Soukyu (Saturn) from what I can see on your posted list.

You are right! DDP DOJ is still very affordable, though Border Down has pretty much become the Dreamcast's Radiant Silvergun at this point and even the regular edition is now going for ~$150. Chances are it will become even more expensive in the future since there are only 3,000 Limited Edition copies and 8,000 regular edition copies (5,000 first print, 3,000 second print). That means unlike Radiant Silvergun, Border Down really is somewhat rare.

[Icarus]

You are right! DDP DOJ is still very affordable, though Border Down has pretty much become the Dreamcast's Radiant Silvergun at this point and even the regular edition is now going for ~$150. Chances are it will become even more expensive in the future since there are only 3,000 Limited Edition copies and 8,000 regular edition copies (5,000 first print, 3,000 second print). That means unlike Radiant Silvergun, Border Down really is somewhat rare.

Border Down is of immense quality, however, and well worth the purchase. And you don't necessarily have to go for the LE, the regular one can be had for a good price if you have patience and hunt around. (One on YAJ for about £50 at the moment, *hint hint*. ^_-)