If you could only have one shmup from Working Designs

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:57 am

My question is what shmup so you consider best from the Working Designs shmups?

(sorry I didn't play enough Spellivator as a child)
RayStorm
RayCrisis
Thunderforce V
Sylpheed

I would have to say that Raystom in the best in my opinion. (I just got them all this week)

It's a shame that there are only four english shmups..( I think)

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:02 am

They sure knew how to pick duds.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:11 am

they had considered bringing over battle garegga and soukyugurentai but then they dropped them when the saturn was tanking

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:02 am

Hey, they brought over Gungriffon Blaze, which was an awesome game even if it wasn't a shmup.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:00 am

TFV is the lesser of all evils.
Raycrisis is a horrible, horrible game. There's no rhyme or reason to that monster.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:12 am

Thunder Force V without a doubt. While the Saturn version is the one I prefer, the PS1 version is still quite good.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:33 am

shinsage wrote:TFV is the lesser of all evils.
Raycrisis is a horrible, horrible game. There's no rhyme or reason to that monster.

To be perfectly honest, I found all the Ray games to really suck.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:22 am

Come on now, not Force too?
If Storm and Crisis kept the 2D sprites, they would've been more bearable, most likely.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:59 pm

I used to not like Raystorm and Raycrisis, but they have since grown on me a lot. Raystorm is one of the best shooters of the 90s imo.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:20 pm

CIT wrote:I used to not like Raystorm and Raycrisis, but they have since grown on me a lot. Raystorm is one of the best shooters of the 90s imo.

Voted the best in '96!* Raycrisis has one basic flaw, it is simply too easy if you don't play it for score, almost pointless.

*There should be a thread by Oxtsu on best gamest (and then arcadia) shmups per year.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:58 pm

Either version of Thunder Force V has equivalent gameplay so hats off to TFV for me.

Twiddle wrote:they had considered bringing over battle garegga and soukyugurentai but then they dropped them when the saturn was tanking

I can say with confidence that although Soukyugurentai was considered, Battle Garegga was not; by the time the latter was released, Working Designs was just trying to finish up Magic Knight Rayearth and get out the closing SS door.

Anyway, the SS shooters that Working Designs planned to release were:

Thunder Force Gold Pack 1 and Hyper Duel collection
Thunder Force Gold Pack 2 and Blast Wind collection
Thunder Force V

Needless to say, even if they were released, they'd probably be going for $100-200.

Lastblade · Post by **Lastblade** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:38 pm

Silpheed shouldn't even be considered.

TFV wins by default.

Elemental Gearbolt is one of my favorite non-RPG WD games.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:39 pm

shinsage wrote:Come on now, not Force too?
If Storm and Crisis kept the 2D sprites, they would've been more bearable, most likely.

Force I found to be fairly annoying. Storm was the only one I can truly stand, but not for very long at all.

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:16 am

I go with Raystorm. I didn't care too much for Series Termination. I find maximum enjoyment with Raystorm. Raycrisis just frustrates me

My second choice would be TFV.

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:24 am

I'm always surprised that Working Designs gets credit for TFV. Unless I'm sadly mistaken, Working Designs didn't have anything to do with the Japanese version of TFV. And all they did with the American version was publish it. Technosoft was the brains behind the game, as they were with the entire TF series.

Coop. You're our resident TF expert. Am I wrong about this?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:39 am

Alpolio wrote:Working Designs ... publish

Yes, this is what they did.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:15 pm

Rob wrote:
Alpolio wrote:Working Designs ... publish
Yes, this is what they did.

WD also gets credit for hyping up a non-existent new stage in the US PS version of TFV.

Zigfried the Trizealot · Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:24 pm

Victor Ireland was once called out about that secret (non-existent) TFV stage/boss on the Working Designs board.

Unfortunately, he "forgot" how to access it. Seriously, that was his excuse.

//Zig