STGT 2k6- Week #6 Guwange

Leeram · Post by **Leeram** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:17 pm

Hi everyone,

Sorry but I cannot play this game, I hate it with a passion, I have tried to play for the last hour but I could not even work out what my score was. In game it was 23 squiggle some numbers I can't remember squiggle.

I tried to read off the high score table but I didn't know if I shoud be reading off the left side or ride side of it and it scrolls that fast there's no way I can write it down.

I give up, if 23 squiggle means anything to anyone please post up my score just so the team can get a point or so. I played the third character along and got to Level 3 if that helps,

Leeram - Underdogs - 23 squiggle something squiggle - third one along - level 3 - mame.

Cheers

Leeram

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:13 pm

Shocky wrote:I guess I was just hoping that in the .avi (your Air Gallet replay) there was a player visible, hand movements also, but it was just a screencapture, which is easier to forge (save states + some frame-by-frame video editing).

I don't have the facilities to do video production of that nature. I would be capturing off the PCB but I have no controller worth using at the moment, plus my capture card does not want to accept supergun signals.

I'm not bored or stupid enough to waste my time using states and video editing to fake a score, it does nothing for my abilities as a player.

Shocky wrote:It's already been seen that even on this forum cheating exists, so I'm sometimes sceptical. And if someone uses the word "verified", then I expect at least an eyewitness report from a known forum member. Credibility can also be obtained by explaining scoring techniques, which you have already done.

Do you want a torrent set up, Mr Skeptic? Just because cheating apparently exists doesn't mean the board is rife with it.

Shocky wrote:Still I get this feeling that some players might use save states to skip the "routine" first couple of stages, and not necessarily even think of it as cheating, because they "would have cleared it anyway with the same or better score, it's just saving time". I hope I'm wrong on this. Anyways, I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone in particular.

Why the heck would I want to do that? States are indeed good for practicing, but every replay is recorded from the moment a virtual coin is inserted to the second I finish inputting my initials.

Are you of the "wow, big score, he must be cheating" crowd?

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:30 pm

Did I just see a camel toe?

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:33 pm

howmuchkeefe wrote:Did I just see a camel toe?

More like a pair of tits. ^_-

Vincere · Post by **Vincere** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:35 pm

GIVE.IT.TO.ME.

NRS · Post by **NRS** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:11 pm

Here I am late as usual...

NRS - Team Loser - 2,368,200 - Stage 6 - Kosame - 1,537 (MAME)

(I think my score is translated right)

As much I as love this game, I think it'll be another lifetime or two before I get the scoring down.

PlasmaBlooD · Post by **PlasmaBlooD** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:18 pm

PlasmaBlooD Team Germany 3'034'227 4 Gensuke 5'937

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:18 pm

Shocky wrote: It's already been seen that even on this forum cheating exists, so I'm sometimes sceptical. And if someone uses the word "verified", then I expect at least an eyewitness report from a known forum member. Credibility can also be obtained by explaining scoring techniques, which you have already done.

Still I get this feeling that some players might use save states to skip the "routine" first couple of stages, and not necessarily even think of it as cheating, because they "would have cleared it anyway with the same or better score, it's just saving time". I hope I'm wrong on this. Anyways, I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone in particular.

With some people I'm skeptical. However I know Icarus is a damned good player. I trust his scores as legit.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:32 pm

Cannibal - Bargiggia Team - 1.833.659 - stage 4 - Shishin - 3903 (MAME)

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:14 pm

*huff* *huff*....My thumb...*huff* *huff* ..needs amputation..

I've had it with seeing stage 1. I'm trying to blank out while playing the stage I've done it so many times...

I have the full auto mapped to 4 buttons and I still can't tell what it's doing.

DJ Incompetent - Drink & Stroll - 3,235,837 - (Edit: 5 "durrr") - Gensuke - 4?028 - MAME - acts of god I didn't die: 5

I bet you were just waiting for this weren't you. You're sitting on a 4 mil score I bet...just plotting to put my work to shame.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:40 pm

Classic. Despite all the bullshit we had before this tournament, we have one person alleging that someone is cheating. It's a fucking videogame people.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:49 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Classic. Despite all the bullshit we had before this tournament, we have one person alleging that someone is cheating. It's a fucking videogame people.

It was bound to happen eventually.

howmuchkeefe- Heh. Thanks. I really didn't want to try and figure out what would work for "The" and "Coop", so I just chose two symbols that looked like a "T" and "C". For all I know, they mean "Chicken fucker" or something together, but...

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:01 pm

landshark wrote:
Shocky wrote: It's already been seen that even on this forum cheating exists, so I'm sometimes sceptical. And if someone uses the word "verified", then I expect at least an eyewitness report from a known forum member. Credibility can also be obtained by explaining scoring techniques, which you have already done.

Still I get this feeling that some players might use save states to skip the "routine" first couple of stages, and not necessarily even think of it as cheating, because they "would have cleared it anyway with the same or better score, it's just saving time". I hope I'm wrong on this. Anyways, I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone in particular.
With some people I'm skeptical. However I know Icarus is a damned good player. I trust his scores as legit.

From what I see, Icarus has too much motivation and drive to cheat. Most of the people on this forum are the same way. Personally I don't cheat and it wouldn't matter if I did because Everyone would notice. I'm that bad.

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:24 pm

Icarus is your windoze desktop TATE? How'd you do that?

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:50 pm

I'm guessing NVIDIA drivers' NVRotate settings. At least, that's what let me TATE mine.

neocps2 · Post by **neocps2** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:55 pm

stage5
5 290 690 /stage 5/team strangers/ sishin

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:01 pm

Limbrooke Team Canada 251 653 Stage 2 Shinshin 548 Chain

yes, last place

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:13 pm

Not if I was in on this thing.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:34 pm

The Coop wrote: It was bound to happen eventually.

Yeah, like in the first week.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:50 pm

A little better.

Limbrooke Team Canada 508 927 St3 439 Shishin

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:55 pm

Rob wrote:
The Coop wrote: It was bound to happen eventually.
Yeah, like in the first week.

Shit. I forgot to put "again" in-between the last two words. The sad part? I was thinking "It was bound to happen again eventually". Why did my brain think that while my hands typed the quoted sentence above? I blame Guwange... and the rain, since Milli Vanilli told us to.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:21 pm

howmuchkeefe - Team Old Schoolers - 3,348,545 - 5 - Gensuke - 4,435

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4536/guwa0012gl3.jpg

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:22 pm

Leeram wrote:Hi everyone,

Sorry but I cannot play this game, I hate it with a passion, I have tried to play for the last hour but I could not even work out what my score was. In game it was 23 squiggle some numbers I can't remember squiggle.

I tried to read off the high score table but I didn't know if I shoud be reading off the left side or ride side of it and it scrolls that fast there's no way I can write it down.

I give up, if 23 squiggle means anything to anyone please post up my score just so the team can get a point or so. I played the third character along and got to Level 3 if that helps,

Leeram - Underdogs - 23 squiggle something squiggle - third one along - level 3 - mame.

Cheers

Leeram

Really now.

There's at least three posts at the beginning of this thread detailing how to read the HS chart entries. If it scrolls by too fast use the mame pause to stop it so you can actually read it. If you don't want to put even that effort into reading the score, fine; but posting a score entry of '23 squiggle something squiggle' is beyond useless and a bit silly.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:35 am

Sigh, went to turn my computer on this morning only to have it, well, not turn on.

I have a score of 13 million something, but I can't view the screen shot of it so I have no idea what the score is exactly. I doubt I'll have my computer up and running before the week ends, so uh, boo.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:12 am

Ahh sorry, was at work this evening, just got back.

ED-057 wrote:Icarus is your windoze desktop TATE? How'd you do that?

howmuchkeefe wrote:I'm guessing NVIDIA drivers' NVRotate settings. At least, that's what let me TATE mine.

My old graphics card was a GeForce5 FX that got fried in the last hardware failure. Right now I have an ATI X550 series graphics card, but the principle is the same - just use your graphics card's display properties to TATE the desktop.

If you can't do that, track down a program called Pivot WinPortrait that lets you do the same thing. ^_-

Pirate1019 wrote:From what I see, Icarus has too much motivation and drive to cheat. Most of the people on this forum are the same way. Personally I don't cheat and it wouldn't matter if I did because Everyone would notice. I'm that bad.

I love playing shootemups and enjoy the thrill of a good competition. I put a lot of time and energy playing the games to be best of my ability, and enjoying learning everything there is to offer, and naturally it irks the hell out of me when some people directly or indirectly imply that my records could be faked.

I know Shocky means well. My view on the subject is that there is no point in faking a score for a web forum competition, because there is no big prize (like a major trophy or a world title) at the end of it, at least not for me. Just playing and competing against other skilled, like-minded players is enough for me, and scoreplay also extends the shelf life of the games I like.

If someone is stupid enough to fake a score just to sit at the top of the table, then its a sad, pathetic life they lead.

Anyway, if people still want to see proof of ability, you can either wait until all six STGT score replays are released at the end of the tournament, or you can take a quick look at two stage clips from my Guwange capture archive:

Player: Icarus //
- Kosame, Stage 1, +2641 chain (XVID - 20MB) <-- new personal best
- Kosame, Stage 3, No Miss, +7707 chain (XVID - 39MB)

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:45 am

This game seems to get less fun the more I play. I'll call it the inverse Mars Matrix effect. Losing chains has finally achieved its rage-inducing goal.

Also, random elements in rigid scoring games = no.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:05 am

Ack. No confidence or focus at all tonight, too much on my mind.

Too many small errors - a single hit on the stage2 boss, or one before the food in stage3, or losing my first bar just seconds before the stage4 worm. Only good thing about tonight's practice is I know roughly how to hold the chain at the entrance to the stage5 boss.

Think I'll leave it until tomorrow to attempt the 20mil run.

coffeejoerx · Post by **coffeejoerx** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:20 am

coffeejoerx - Team Old Schoolers - 3,179,285 - 5 - Gensuke - 5,773 - wolfmame0104

I guess the translation it is correct.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:22 am

Rob wrote:This game seems to get less fun the more I play. I'll call it the inverse Mars Matrix effect. Losing chains has finally achieved its rage-inducing goal.

Also, random elements in rigid scoring games = no.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that.

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:44 am

Here is the usual "following teams which haven't enough players on the scoreboard yet".

-California Dudez (2 missing players)
-namakoteam (2 missing players)

-Bargiggia Team (1 missing player)
-Team Cowboy (1 missing player)
-Super Buffet S.T. (1 missing player)
-Team Canada (1 missing player)
-Team Skandinavia (1 missing player)
-Team Sweden (1 missing player)
-Underdogs (1 missing player)

*sigh*

MrMonkeyMan wrote:Sigh, went to turn my computer on this morning only to have it, well, not turn on.

I have a score of 13 million something, but I can't view the screen shot of it so I have no idea what the score is exactly. I doubt I'll have my computer up and running before the week ends, so uh, boo.

If you aren't sure of the exact value, but know you had 3 million something (this has happened to me before lost the notice for example.) you can also type your score like this:

MrMonkeyMan - Team Cowboy - 13'XXX'XXX - ....

Though I hope you might still get the exact value before the deadline.

PS: And damn you, DJI. Now I have to "waste" my whole sunday on Guwange.

EDIT:
Yeah, on the second run after I wrote that post I made a new score and simply couldn't resist to post it here.

Edge - Team Germany - 3'262'862 - 4 - Shishin - 5'953 (MAME)

Leading to...

Code: Select all

16.Edge               Team Germany        3'262'862    4     Shishin      5'953   (MAME)
17.DJ Incompetent     Drink & Fly         3'235'837    5     Gensuke      4'082   (MAME)

But I am expecting you to pull off another score today, so I better return to the game. This is going to be somewhat interesting.