Using gamepad/joystick with Raiden 3 (PC)

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Using gamepad/joystick with Raiden 3 (PC)

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All,

My first post!

Just got Raiden 3 for the PC (fantastic game, btw) but am having trouble getting it to work with my gamepad. In the configuration tool, I selected the third item in the dropdown list of controls and was able to set each of the directions and buttons to ones on my gamepad. However, no matter what I do after that, it seems to not save my settings and I'm left using the keyboard in the game anyway.

Any suggestions (preferrably with step-by-step instructions as to what to select since the configuration tool isn't in English)?

Thanks!

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Re: Using gamepad/joystick with Raiden 3 (PC)

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Welcome!
Tabe wrote:Raiden 3 [...] fantastic game
No. :)
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Re: Using gamepad/joystick with Raiden 3 (PC)

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Ceph wrote:Welcome!
Tabe wrote:Raiden 3 [...] fantastic game
No. :)
LOL, ok then :)

Thanks for the welcome. Now, about that gamepad... ;)

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Post by Necronom »

Hi there!

make sure you pushed the middle button at the bottom of the config tool in order to save. Also, if you use a Xbox360 pad Raiden3 won't recognize the dpad and you should try moving the ship with the analog stick...at least that's the case on my system.
If nothing works you can also try this, nihool posted it a while ago:

http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/Jo ... ersion.htm

I think it's quite a nice game...especially the double mode controlling both ships simultanously with the analog sticks, mindbending!
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Post by PooshhMao »

You can play *any* shmup this way in MAME, if you set up the controls like that.

Control both ships with their respective thumbstick, and use L1/L2 to fire/bomb for P1 and R1/R2 for P2.

Let's see a Dodonpachi replay vid done this way.
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Errr...unless I'm missing something here, you shouldn't be playing any shoot 'em up with an analogue stick. 8 way directional stick or joypad are the only ways you should play a shooter. Analogue controls are horrible for this type of game. :x
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Kaede wrote:Errr...unless I'm missing something here, you shouldn't be playing any shoot 'em up with an analogue stick. 8 way directional stick or joypad are the only ways you should play a shooter. Analogue controls are horrible for this type of game. :x
I just love the "hardcore attitude" of so many people here :D
You're right that digital controls are the way to go...BUT, if you're fine with the analogue, then where's the problem?
Kenta Cho's Gunroar is perfectly playable with double analogue and there is even a really good Canadian Ikaruga player whose name I forgot who plays Ika with analogue stick (Cube).
Btw, PS2-Raiden3 double play = analogue sticks.
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Kaede wrote:Errr...unless I'm missing something here, you shouldn't be playing any shoot 'em up with an analogue stick. 8 way directional stick or joypad are the only ways you should play a shooter. Analogue controls are horrible for this type of game. :x
Amen.
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Kaede wrote:Errr...unless I'm missing something here, you shouldn't be playing any shoot 'em up with an analogue stick. 8 way directional stick or joypad are the only ways you should play a shooter. Analogue controls are horrible for this type of game. :x
What if a game fully supports it, say Giga Wing 2 and Gradius V? Being able to have different movement speed without a power up = nice.

The only reason why you wouldn't use analog for Raiden III is that the game doesn't respond to anything but an analog dead zone, in which case analog control is wasted unless it's the only option you have.
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Post by Tabe »

Necronom wrote:Hi there!

make sure you pushed the middle button at the bottom of the config tool in order to save.
This was all it took - even though I would SWEAR I had done this previously. Oh well, it's working fine now - thanks!

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Post by gameoverDude »

If you're using the Dead or Alive 4 controller, the joystick is treated as a Hat Switch (confirmed in MAME). I've been using J2K for Shikigami no Shiro 3 and will do so with Raiden III once my PC version arrives.
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Post by Necronom »

@gameoverdude
With the new drivers from MS or the ones from XBCD Mame does recognize the dpad as Hat switch. For some strange reason Raiden 3 doesn't. Maybe that's because I installed Raiden 3 before I installed the updated drivers but I doubt it. However, I guess J2K is a way to solve problems like this.
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Pixel_Outlaw wrote:
Kaede wrote:Errr...unless I'm missing something here, you shouldn't be playing any shoot 'em up with an analogue stick. 8 way directional stick or joypad are the only ways you should play a shooter. Analogue controls are horrible for this type of game. :x
Amen.
*cough* Gradius V *cough*
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lol yea the gradius 5 direction options were less tiring with the analog lol
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It wasn't just that, if you were to tilt the analog slightly, the Vic Viper would move slow depending on how much you tilt the direction of the analog.
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I just got the PC version today, and IMO it's graphically an improvement (generally crisper graphics, aliasing not as bad, better lighting) over PS2.

For DOA4 Joystick users, Joy2Key is the ONLY way to go. Just map the POV1 controls to the matching arrow keys, button 2 to Z, button 3 to X and you're ready.
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