Recca (Famicom) Question.

metallica_tyler · Post by **metallica_tyler** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:40 am

I was reading a gamefaqs review and at the end he said this:

"Of all the indie/homebrew games I've played, Recca is BY FAR the best. Five stars."

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/review/R71940.html

There is the link to the review.

Now I own the Recca Cartridge on the famicom and I thought this game was officially released? Do I own a pirate or...? I'm a little confused.

bVork · Post by **bVork** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:49 am

He's an idiot. Recca did get a normal, commercial, official release.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:04 am

bVork wrote:He's an idiot. Recca did get a normal, commercial, official release.

Erm no! Well apart maybe for the idiot (with good taste though) part then.

Recca was NOT commercially released, but was made specially for a Summer Carnival shooting competition (the one of '92). So it was never officially available in shops and whatever.

By far the best shmup on the NES though. Absolutely stunning!

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:27 am

How would you guys rate Recca next to Crisis Force?

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:37 am

Seven Force wrote:How would you guys rate Recca next to Crisis Force?

Personally never played that game so I can't compare.

Here's a nice review of it though:

http://www.digitpress.com/reviews/crisisforce.htm

Crisis Force is an outstanding shooter, ranking up there with such great overhead NES shooters like Zanac, Gun*Nac, Star Soldier, and the incredible Recca (graphically it puts all of them to shame, but gameplay-wise it's comparable to those four).

So besides recca's graphical superiority, the games seem to be of comparable quality. And that can only mean Crisis Force is really good.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:02 pm

Super Laydock wrote:Recca was NOT commercially released, but was made specially for a Summer Carnival shooting competition (the one of '92). So it was never officially available in shops and whatever.

I'd have to disagree there. I have a complete Recca, with box and manual and all. I doubt the publisher had bothered to create those for a game that would just be used in Summer Carnival where nobody would see those. The few PCE hu-cards that were made for this very purpose (Soldier Blade Special, etc.) are hu-card only.

Also, Recca has a Normal game made that takes about 20 minutes to complete - no sense in having that in a Summer Carnival -game (the Normal game mode was missing from the aforementioned special versions of hu-cards).

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:46 pm

Ghegs wrote: I'd have to disagree there. I have a complete Recca, with box and manual and all.

I never ever read about a complete copy of Recca, and was told only official carts from the tournament existed.
I've read about bootlegged Recca copies with extras though. But then again those are usually easily recognised and I think your argument about the "normal" game is a very good one.

I stand corrected.

metallica_tyler · Post by **metallica_tyler** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:56 pm

Yea well thi game is absolutely amazing. I can't believe what i'm playing when I see this game. It's insane... it's definitely faster than a lot of other shooters that's for sure.

My jaw dropped in the 2nd stage where they use those warpy effects and when the snakes come out. I also loved how you flew forward to the first snake then flew backwards insanely fast back through the level.

I wish the game had continues and i've only gotten through Stage 2. Very amazing game.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:15 pm

Super Laydock wrote:
Seven Force wrote:How would you guys rate Recca next to Crisis Force?
Personally never played that game so I can't compare.

Here's a nice review of it though:

http://www.digitpress.com/reviews/crisisforce.htm

Crisis Force is an outstanding shooter, ranking up there with such great overhead NES shooters like Zanac, Gun*Nac, Star Soldier, and the incredible Recca (graphically it puts all of them to shame, but gameplay-wise it's comparable to those four).
So besides recca's graphical superiority, the games seem to be of comparable quality. And that can only mean Crisis Force is really good.

Thanks for the link! I think the reviewer is saying that Crisis Force has the best graphics tho.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:57 pm

Seven Force wrote:I think the reviewer is saying that Crisis Force has the best graphics tho.

Reading that part again, I admit I could have misread that part.
Hard to believe any other Famicom shmup could put Recca's graphics "to shame" though.

Now I really want to give this one a try...

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:01 pm

Super Laydock wrote:
Seven Force wrote:I think the reviewer is saying that Crisis Force has the best graphics tho.
Reading that part again, I admit I could have misread that part.
Hard to believe any other Famicom shmup could put Recca's graphics "to shame" though.

Now I really want to give this one a try...

Crisis Force does have quite a lot of parallax scrolling... Yakumo reviewed it in volume 9 of RetroCore.

llaoyllakcuf · Post by **llaoyllakcuf** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:42 pm

Super Laydock wrote:I never ever read about a complete copy of Recca

they definitely sell for quite a lot.

check out the latest auction that closed (you can use rinkya if you don't have a Jpn. Yahoo! ID).

http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f37812458

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:06 pm

^^ WOW, that would be about 325 US$ for a complete set!

I wanted one, but maybe not THAT much now (my wallet would REALLY not allow me).

Thanks for the link though...

metallica_tyler · Post by **metallica_tyler** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:21 pm

Who developed Recca anyways?

Isn't Naxat Soft just the publisher?

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:45 pm

i think recca is way better than crisisforce. crisisforce is barren in comparison action-wise, although it does look heavenly. also (lung crushing difficulty aside) recca is more player friendly. whenever i play crisisforce i find myself confused at one point or another about weapon usage and whatnot. but i'm an idiot so...

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:49 pm

I've heard that Recca was developed by some programmers that later went on to form Raizing. Don't know how much truth is in that.

I don't know the name of the development team though.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:01 pm

check this thread

Yagawa is the man.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:17 am

From my experience, which is all emulated, I don't like Crisis Force a whole lot. Either nothing's happening, or there's more slowdown than anything. Recovering from death is painful, and I didn't find the game very engaging. The graphics are really good. It's got nothing like the waving in Recca, but it does nice parallax stuff. There's more detail in the backgrounds, and everything stays on screen long enough that you can actually get a good look at it.

Recca has a bunch of slowdown, at least on emulators, but I find it just tolerable. Having spent possibly 50+ hours playing it, it's not very difficult any more, just relaxing and fun (unless I'm trying to beat hard mode...). I wrote a brief ST on it a while ago.

Considering how long I've played Recca I feel bad about not having a copy, but, well, they're not easy to come by.

bVork · Post by **bVork** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:13 am

Super Laydock wrote:
Ghegs wrote: I'd have to disagree there. I have a complete Recca, with box and manual and all.

I never ever read about a complete copy of Recca, and was told only official carts from the tournament existed.
I've read about bootlegged Recca copies with extras though. But then again those are usually easily recognised and I think your argument about the "normal" game is a very good one.

I stand corrected.

Heh. I was quite sure of its commercial release, as I am the proud owner of a complete one as well.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:17 pm

Thread bump!

What emulator would you recommend playing Recca with? I tried it on Nestopia and Nesticle, and I couldn`t determine if some graphical glitches game from the game or the emulator - all I know is that the game tends to flicker quite much.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:53 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:Thread bump!

What emulator would you recommend playing Recca with? I tried it on Nestopia and Nesticle, and I couldn`t determine if some graphical glitches game from the game or the emulator - all I know is that the game tends to flicker quite much.

you are familiar with the nintendo, no?

flicker is a common limitation of the console (reasons for this someone else can explain). some emulators include options so you can turn off the sprite limitations per line.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:38 am

I always thought flickering is to extend the number of sprites by altering their display. So yeah, I know flickering is normal - I was more asking because of game speed, correct music playback etc.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:47 pm

So, how much does a cart-only of this game usually sell for?

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:34 pm

dave4shmups wrote:So, how much does a cart-only of this game usually sell for?

Usually around $150 or so.

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:32 am

I'm just curious. Is "Recca" the orignal title of the game? Are there any other alternative names for it? I can't seem to find it on my NES emulator.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:16 am

you might look under "summer carnival"

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:05 pm

There it is! Man, this game is nuts.

Thanks captain ahar.

maxlords · Post by **maxlords** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:02 am

Crisis Force is good, but it's either REALLY action heavy, or really slow-paced. It's not as steady as you'd prefer. However, the two-player simultaneous play with a combined ship is AMAZING, and the parallax is unsurpassed on the Famicom IMO. As for Recca...haven't snagged one...yet