Couple of Questions

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:38 pm

I have a US copy of Gigawing and I have some decent scores saved on my memory card. Pretty soon I'll be getting a Japanese copy and selling my US copy to friend to help him out. When I put in the Japanese copy will it pick up those scores from the US copy or will it be saved as a totally different game?

Also what are the differences between the Dreamcast version of Ikaruga and the Gamecube version?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:09 pm

I wouldn't count on your Giga Wing scores being read by the Japanese game. Better take a screenshot just to be sure.

Afaik the difference between DC and GC Ikaruga is better framerate on GC and a more extensive pratice mode. I have a feeling somebody else will give you more specific details tho.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:24 pm

CIT wrote: Afaik the difference between DC and GC Ikaruga is better framerate on GC and a more extensive pratice mode. I have a feeling somebody else will give you more specific details tho.

I have the same feeling, but just to get the show on the road:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=2551

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=817

DC: better and crisper sound and visuals (through VGA), some (little, non distracting) slowdown
GC: practice mode, less slowdown.

Most people seem to think the DC version is the better one.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:25 pm

Thanks, I have two copies of the GC one that I guess I'm gonna sell to friends and one unopened copy of the DC one that I'll open and keep for myself.

Can't you do VGA with the GC version as well though?

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:33 pm

JJG wrote: Can't you do VGA with the GC version as well though?

Not sure about that. DChas native VGA support, Gamecube has only "forced" VGA possibility afaik.
This might result in different image quality, but that's just a guess from my part. Someone else probably know more about this.

edit: some opinions on it in this thread.

Atomic · Post by **Atomic** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:35 pm

JJG wrote:Thanks, I have two copies of the GC one that I guess I'm gonna sell to friends and one unopened copy of the DC one that I'll open and keep for myself.

Can't you do VGA with the GC version as well though?

if youre interested in getting rid of one of your GC copies, i'll take it. i cant find it anywhere here.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:06 am

I've kind of already promised these copies but I've seen a lot on ebay lately, some unopened.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:22 am

Got the GC version. Not sure, but I think some story related stuff was cut from the GC version. What is VGA? Might be able to tell you if it has it. Perfectly functional and good enough for me. A good port if I ever saw one.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:47 am

http://members.cox.net/oxtsu/gcvga_ika1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/oxtsu/gcvga_ika2.jpg

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:09 am

oxtsu how would you say the resolutions compare, have you played both?

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:15 am

There's a homing laser glitch on the first boss in GC Ikaruga, in that they don't target the last form of the boss, just the side pods, making it harder to get a fast kill time. I think it's only native to the PAL version, but maybe someone can confirm that.

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:24 am

Icarus wrote:I think it's only native to the PAL version, but maybe someone can confirm that.

Oh yes, PAL only

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:54 pm

JJG wrote:oxtsu how would you say the resolutions compare, have you played both?

Yes, resolution is identical between them. However, Dreamcast has a little better video output than Gamecube. If you want the perfect image get the DC version. GC is only a few hairs away though.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:15 pm

Thanks, I guess I'll open this DC copy I have.

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:35 pm

oxtsu wrote:Yes, resolution is identical between them. However, Dreamcast has a little better video output than Gamecube. If you want the perfect image get the DC version. GC is only a few hairs away though.

How is it possible that a system released several years earlier has better video output than the GC?

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:56 pm

FRO wrote:
oxtsu wrote:Yes, resolution is identical between them. However, Dreamcast has a little better video output than Gamecube. If you want the perfect image get the DC version. GC is only a few hairs away though.
How is it possible that a system released several years earlier has better video output than the GC?

How is it possible that old "vinyl" records released many years earlier have better sound than CD?

As for the DC > GC issue here, it's all been a matter of choices. Sega chose to include true VGA possibility on DC, Nintendo didn't chose the same for Gamecube. The choice to whether or not include the ability to do native VGA is the deciding factor. If Nintendo had wanted it then GC would have had it.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:51 am

About the Saves:
Even with no experience in the field of foreign game compatability (if you can have experience in such a field) I would guess not.

About the Games: Like I said before. The GC game might be a little thin in some places, it isn't skimpy in the gameplay, which is where it counts, so I keep mine and it is my prize GC shooter (The only other competition is Chaos Field...Heh.)

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:29 pm

I'm kind of thinking of getting rid of my GC these days, I love the system but all of the shooters on it are on DC as well. I think I'm just gonna keep some of the GC games and buy a Wii when it comes out to play them on there.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:03 am

I just put in the JP Giga Wing and it picked up my scores from the US Giga Wing, happily surprised.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:08 am

Huzzah! And they all rejoiced!

On another note: I need to pick up a DC one of these days.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:22 am

DC is the system to own, I have 3.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:30 am

JJG wrote:DC is the system to own, I have 3.

Isn't that a little overkill?

I'll get one eventually. If I only end up getting one next-gen console (large possibility), a DC will probably be the next purchase.