Shooting Game Tournament 2006

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Valgar wrote:Hi, I am of course playing with Team Cowboy.
Who else is in this team besides Plasmo?
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Ok, I divided them into teams, like Rob.

I have to leave now, but I'll be back tonight to get the rules ready. :)
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Rob wrote:
Valgar wrote:Hi, I am of course playing with Team Cowboy.
Who else is in this team besides Plasmo?
I am :oops:
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Aw shucks. I'm sure Edge can fix that up and drop the Canada from the FUSA team.

Now excuse me, I will be reading Raizing strategy guides.
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sven666 wrote:at this rate team "loosers" will have to be split up into west and east coast too.. cmon guys, no need for the uber-defensive attitude, its just for fun.. no-ones gonna pick on you for not being the top shot in the brackets
Actually, I'm planning to pick on people.
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Can I sign up. Probably Looser team in the UK if there is one.
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if its not too late im trying to get a swedish team together 8) 3-4 players atleast :) pretty damn good players too...

theyre just having some trouble registering because of the email ban..
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ill6 wrote:Probably Looser team in the UK if there is one.
Just join me at the bottom of the regular UK team.. :wink:
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Seems Sven666 convinced me (not that hard) to sign up for the swedish team.

So, let´s get it on :)
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Hmmm, sign me up for the swedish team aswell!
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Am I the ONLY one from South America?

I still am not sure if I'll play for the Losers teams or not. And I am bringing another Brazilian to the compo...

How many players each team should have ?
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USA Eastcoast, If you get in a bind for whatever reason, PM me. Doubt you'll need it, but it's there. I'll help what(/where the) limited I can. Dunno if there's a clause for substitutions anyway.

I'll try 'n shoot cameos for hi-score threads in the meantime.

Leeram wrote: I don't think we should have 3 people playing each game from each team. I think all players should play and the top three scores be added together. That way everyone gets to play everything.
Won't that go right back to the "What if everybody on the team doesn't have the game" problem?
Come to think of it, what are the chances 3 people of a small team don't have the proposed game?
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A team should be at least 4 members, but I'd say should have 5-6 players on it. 7 might be too many again...

Ah I forgot, I wanted to reply on this before:
Leeram wrote: I don't think we should have 3 people playing each game from each team. I think all players should play and the top three scores be added together. That way everyone gets to play everything.
Yeah, I see your point there. Still I think it would be better with a "playing formation"(only 3 players of a team play each week), because...

If every member plays each week, the ones with the lower scores in the team 4th, 5th won't count at all. This may be a bit frustrating if you are not among the best players of the team. Because your hard efforts in trying your best won't be recognized if you aren't among the best 3 scores of your team.

On the other hand if we do it with playing formations, there is indeed the possibilty that a team won't let their weaker players participate, i agree. But since we are all nice dudes, I think we will be varying our team formation and won't ONLY think about victory. (I hope at least :P)

And if we let everyone in the team participate you will feel more as an important and intact part of this team. Because you know your score will count and can help the team, even if you are not among the best players.

That's at least the way I see this. :)



Also we could start to nominate certain games for each theme or voting for certain themes. I'll start with my 2 cents, might add some games later:
(please do only vote for games you'd really like to play on this)

Cave Week:
DoDonPachi, Progear

Takumi Week:
Giga Wing, Mars Matrix

Raizing Week:
Armed Police Batrider, Battle Garegga

Retro Week:
Star Force, Exerion, Xevious

Gradius Week:
Gradius 5, Sexy Parodius

Horizontal Week:
Thunderforce 3, R-Type Delta, Einhänder

As much as I'd like to do one of these:
"C64, Amiga or MSX"
I think that not enough could participate, because first these home computers aren't that popular all around the globe and also the emulation of these is pretty difficult. (Not impossible, but people might not like to bother with getting the emulation running)

So we are gathering the potentially interesting games for each theme. and then start a theme-specific voting thread for each week.
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Cave Week:
Mushimesama, Espgaluda

Takumi Week:
Mars Matrix

Raizing Week:
Battle Bakriad

Horizontal Week:
Progear, Blazing Star, Borderdown

Random Factor Week
Cyvern, Shienryu
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Cave Week:
Ibara, Dodonpachi DOJ, Mushi ULTRA

Takumi Week:
Giga Wing, Mars Matrix

Raizing Week:
Soukyugurentai, Battle Garegga

Psikyo Week:
Gunbird 2, Strikers 45 ii

Retro Week:
Star Force, Hector 87

Gradius Week:
Gradius 5, Sexy Parodius

Horizontal Week:
Border Down, Darius Gaiden
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Cave Week:
Dangun Feveron

Takumi Week:
Mars Matrix

Raizing Week:
Dimahoo

Retro Week:
Millipede, Juno First

Gradius Week:
Gradius 5

Horizontal Week:
Thunderforce 3 (lol)

Should just make a few polls or this will be incredibly tedious to sort out.
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Leeram wrote: I don't think we should have 3 people playing each game from each team. I think all players should play and the top three scores be added together. That way everyone gets to play everything.
Yeah, I see your point there. Still I think it would be better with a "playing formation"(only 3 players of a team play each week), because...

If every member plays each week, the ones with the lower scores in the team 4th, 5th won't count at all. This may be a bit frustrating if you are not among the best players of the team. Because your hard efforts in trying your best won't be recognized if you aren't among the best 3 scores of your team.

On the other hand if we do it with playing formations, there is indeed the possibilty that a team won't let their weaker players participate, i agree. But since we are all nice dudes, I think we will be varying our team formation and won't ONLY think about victory. (I hope at least :P)

And if we let everyone in the team participate you will feel more as an important and intact part of this team. Because you know your score will count and can help the team, even if you are not among the best players.

That's at least the way I see this. :)
Couldn't you just not give out points? It could be like the shooter olympics. Everyone can play.

Oh and um.

Cave Week:
DoDonPachi DOJ, Mushi ULTRA, Ketsui (not likely :()

Takumi Week:
Giga Wing, Giga Wing 2

Raizing Week:
Armed Police Batrider

Psikyo Week:
Gunbird 2

Alfa System Week (or other company week?)
Shikgami no Shiro 2 with Fumiko only

I can't think of anything else I want to play that I haven't already played to death.
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I think Taito is the most deserving of their own week. Darius, Ray-, etc. Down with the "pity me, I'm a lowly horizontal shooter" week.
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Looks like people are picking their favourite games I see. -_-;;

If anything, game selection should be based on availability - the games up for selection should be emulated decently at least, with ports available, which should increase the number of people able to take part. No Ketsui, for example, since only 2% of the forum own that game. ^_-

Games that have console exclusivity - Einhander, Gradius 5/Gaiden, Raiden 3 - etc should be excluded as well, unless its a console from the 16bit era or earlier, as again it limits the maximum amount of participants able to play.

Finally, arcade emulated games should be selected based on how well they can be emulated. Sadly, games I'd love to compete in such as G-Darius and Brave Blade run too slowly even on my PC, so system-intensive games should be excluded as well.
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So you think I should narrow it down to only games that can be emulated.
Ok, we might do that. I thought people might get upset if they can't play their favorite console shmups... But I guess, you are right, accessibilty of the games will be the primary goal.

If you guys trust me, I could make up a nice selection of games for the polls myself. (Doing one poll thread for each week, like we did on Ramus' Shmeets)

I am planning on doing the first week, a Cave week. So we could still discuss the later weeks later...

I feel you are getting itchy fingers. ;)
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If we are going for nominations I'd suggest aiming for those games people are less familiar with, while obviously there's nothing entirely new here for people to discover it could nontheless help provide a solid grounding where people are equally confused an uninitiated each week. After all, there may well be dozens of garegga experts, ddp experts, but batrider? feveron? by comparison they're very much overlooked. It'll give the comp an element of freshness imo.

so,

Cave Week:
Feveron

Takumi Week:
not much to choose from here is there.. I guess Giga Wing, but didnt they have a hand in that copter shmup?

Raizing Week:
Armed Police Batrider, Dimahoo

Psikyo Week:
Sengoku Blade 2

Retro Week:
Silkworm

Gradius Week:
One of the Twinbees?

Horizontal Week:
I'd vote UN Squadron (SNES) other than you can sit on the trailer stages for ages... maybe instead the red headed step child that is R-Type Leo

For a classic week, perhaps Recca or ChoRenSha

I am at least serious about the Cave and Raizing week. It'll be dull dull dull if we all have to run through garegga and ddp again.
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Cave Week:
Esprade, mostly because I just ordered the PCB from excellentcom.

Takumi Week:
Giga Wing or Mars Matrix

Raizing Week:
Batrider or Bakraid

Retro Week:
Xevious

Gradius Week:
Gradius 5

Horizontal Week:
Darius Gaiden
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So you think I should narrow it down to only games that can be emulated.
If every person taking part has access to a game (e.g. Gradius V) I see no reason to exclude it. Of course it'll mean more work in ensuring such is the case - so perhaps it's best to nip that bud right now.
I am planning on doing the first week, a Cave week. So we could still discuss the later weeks later...
I don't know what order you intend to run the weeks but I'd aim for variety - weighting down the top end with Cave, Psikyo and Raizing for example may kill the enjoyment for those waiting on Horis, Gradius and 'Classic', or vice versa. And going off the assumption that Cave is the #1 shmups.com fan favourite developer right now it may be better to leave their games for the ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN!!! or the half way mark...
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Tychom wrote:but didnt they have a hand in that copter shmup?
Nope, definitely not. They didn't make Night Raid either.

I trust Edge to do the polls. :wink:
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Tychom wrote:And going off the assumption that Cave is the #1 shmups.com fan favourite developer right now it may be better to leave their games for the ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN!!! or the half way mark...
Yeah. I'm not particularly in the mood for Donpachi again.
(But only if I can submit my 14mil smeet score from last time ^_-)

Maybe its a good idea to start with something a little simple and fun that everyone can get into, and then start to mix in the big stuff like Cave, Raizing, Toaplan etc?

Well, at least you can be sure that if this is pulled off smoothly and is well received, and runs to its conclusion, you'll have a good template for future smeets. ^_-
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Nope, definitely not. They didn't make Night Raid either.
So Tiger II it is then :p

TBH in Takumi's case it's hard not to choose GW or MM. It's what people expect, know and more than likely want.
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Cave Week:
DANGUN FEVERON

Takumi Week:
MARS MATRIX

Raizing Week:
DIMAHOO

Psikyo Week:
GUNBIRD 2
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Post by Dennis »

Maybe start a poll?

Cave Week:
Progear

Takumi Week:
Mars Matrix

Raizing Week:
Batrider

Psikyo Week:
Dragon Blaze

Gradius Week:
No
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Regarding the score, maybe you should add the score of every member of a team who played the game that week, and divide by the number of people who played the game in that team - this way you have an "average" score for the team.

Just a suggestion, don't know if it's the best way.
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