Italy vs Shmups.com

[Rob]

So choosing specialist titles that someone will Dominate due to countless hours experience, is not a wise idea.

XII Stag?

[Kiken]

I want to play, and I choose Zanac, and warps are forbidden.

Or Aleste 2.

Baah, why no one make competitions on old-school shmups anymore?

Because they take 3 years to play through.

If we're going seriously old-school, keep things limited to Caravan Modes. Afterall, that's why they were designed in the first place.

[landshark]

What games did the Italian team choose?

[Ghegs]

If we're going seriously old-school, keep things limited to Caravan Modes. Afterall, that's why they were designed in the first place.

Heh, if there's Caravan games to be played I want in. But since it seems to be MAME-stuff only that's not gonna happen.

In any case, the competition is a nice idea, I just hope our side can get the ball rolling. There's a severe lack of any organising.

[Randorama]

let's see how childish and chauvinist this can become, knowing my fellow countrymen.

Avanti cosi'.

Trolling on usenet < * , honestly.

[Neverland]

edito per amore del contest ma un giorno verrà affrontato il caso randorama

[freddiebamboo]

What games did the Italian team choose?

They won't say until we tell them ours.

[howmuchkeefe]

I guess what we should do is make a nomination thread, then a poll (if a nominee can't participate, ask the next most popular pick if they're up for it).

For the games, the same: First a nomination thread, then a poll.

[Dave_K.]

Has anybody yet mentioned the fact that 'Choice of games' will land the Competition into certain player's laps.

Del has a point. The team choice is heavily biased on the games picked....which most likely will result in a stalemate if both teams pick their two strongest games/people. Perhaps a choosen pool of 10-15 games, which are then picked at random at the start of the competition would make things more even/fair? Then picking the teams will be more stratigic, to cover as wide a variety of skills as possible? Just a thought.

[MovingTarget]

The shmups team need to get they're act together! Italy already has a day up on them.... plus it would help to get the team members decided pretty sharpish too

[EOJ]

I'd like one of the games to be Border Down.

[Rob]

I'd like one of the games to be Shikigami II - Roger only.

And Fuzzy Shooting.

[zlk]

I think you guys should ask destructor to play. He has made replays finishing both loops of donpachi with all three ship types. He has also made a few replays finishing both loops of cyvern.

[Edge]

I went and started a list of all current nominees. Also wrote everyone of em a pm. To clarify if he'd like to join or not. Please awnser these pms that we know who can be choosen as team members.

Shmups.com Teammembers

If you'd like to participate or I have forgotten to put anyone on the list please tell me so.

I didn't start this thread to become something like a "boss" of organizing the team or something. I just wanted to gather our informations that we have an overview which was already nominated and which players are available to join. I sent everyone a pm in case they haven't read this thread and to confirm if he'd like to play or not. Please help me to get this information as accurate as possible.



So, about the competition:
I think the games choice is pretty important, but I'd like to reccomend to choose the 2 shmups.com games after we have decided for a team of 10. This poll or discussion have to be held in secret, because these are our games we have an advantage at. Like NTSC-J already mentioned, team Italy can already practise their games, so it would only be fair if we choose our games secretly and the whole shmups.com team gets a nice practise time before the real compo starts. Then we can reveal team Italy our games and will get to know what they picked.

@Team Italy:
What if team.shmups and team Italy pick the same game?

And also, are snapshots of digital cameras or video recordings of the "real" games allowed. We have to know that since we can't pick certain members on the shmups.com team without this information.

Thanks.

[EOJ]

And also, are snapshots of digital cameras or video recordings of the "real" games allowed. We have to know that since we can't pick certain members on the shmups.com team without this information.

Right. Not to mention if we can only play in MAME this competition is going to suck big time. Let us use ports or the actual PCBs.

[howmuchkeefe]

Progear and Giga Wing

[Alske]

I think the only shooters I ever play that are available in mame are GigaWing and Mars Matrix. If you guys do another contest at some point for in which you compete in recent-games-available-for-a-home-system-that-I-have I'd be interested. ^_^

[LUNardei]

1 - The random choice for the games is the best, of course. And I'd like more to see this turning into a nation vs. nation challenge, but obviously it's all in your hands

2 - I'm sure the italian team wants mame and .inp only, as final proof of a score. This is wise in many ways, but again, it's all in your hands. Just clarify all this stuff asap, that's my suggestion.

3-

Trolling on usenet < * , honestly.

Dei rapporti tra te e Gemant mi interessa relativamente, ma non puoi approfittare di ogni mezza occasione per dire "Gli italiani questo / gli italiani quello". Non esiste proprio, specie poi considerando il fatto che il being childish in questo topico è iniziato proprio da quel tuo post.

[EOJ]

2 - I'm sure the italian team wants mame and .inp only, as final proof of a score. This is wise in many ways, but again, it's all in your hands. Just clarify all this stuff asap, that's my suggestion.

Everyone should be able to play MAME, ports, or PCBs in this. As long as a video or photo of the hi score is used I don't see why there should be any problem. This is just a competition 'for fun' anyway, it's not like there's some glorious prize at stake.

[freddiebamboo]

2 - I'm sure the italian team wants mame and .inp only, as final proof of a score. This is wise in many ways, but again, it's all in your hands. Just clarify all this stuff asap, that's my suggestion.

We have 2 oustanding players (Rastan78 & DEL) that don't use mame, but I would certainly trust their scores. It would be unfair maybe to disqualify players purely because of mame.

Photographic proof should be enough for these members i reckon.

[LUNardei]

Good point twe, but they stated this:

We’ll play with the emulator WOLFMAME PLUS 0.106 because INPUT file is necessary.

Therefore my suggestion of clarify all this stuff asap!

[BulletMagnet]

I'd like one of the games to be Shikigami II - Roger only.

And Fuzzy Shooting.

Howzabout another vote for Divine Sealing?

[fl0w]

The Italian team should secretly pick a random letter. So should the shmup team do. Both teams reveal their secret letter when the compo starts. The players should enter a name formed with those 2 letters to prove their scores have been achieved during the compo.

Well it's just a suggestion!

[Rob]

Howzabout another vote for Divine Sealing?

There's only one way to score in that game and no one wins.

[Neverland]

1°) please choice e game from mameromset
2°) for validate a score use a inp
3°) when all is ok we release a package with all necessary for play and instruction for recording with mame

sorry my english is no friendly but is only i know

[The Coop]

Out of all the posters on this forum, there are maybe 15 to 20 decent and dedicated players

I don't know about that. Perhaps there are just a lot of users like me here, who play their chosen games very extensively but still don't really bother participating in the high score threads?

Of course, there are possibly a good number of players who either don't have the means to play Japanese PS2 games, or that aren't willing/don't know where to download ROMs for MAME. Since both of those scenarios seem to make up a good chunk of the High Score forum, that leaves some of us unable to participate in those threads as well.

[dai jou bu]

Out of all the posters on this forum, there are maybe 15 to 20 decent and dedicated players

I don't know about that. Perhaps there are just a lot of users like me here, who play their chosen games very extensively but still don't really bother participating in the high score threads?

I support this opinion. I... don't seem to have a mental drive to really play for high scores =\.

[Randorama]

3-

Trolling on usenet < * , honestly.

Dei rapporti tra te e Gemant mi interessa relativamente, ma non puoi approfittare di ogni mezza occasione per dire "Gli italiani questo / gli italiani quello". Non esiste proprio, specie poi considerando il fatto che il being childish in questo topico è iniziato proprio da quel tuo post.

This and the Neverland's post: in short, if people go around saying "zomg you post fake scores" and other dumb comments, something's horribly wrong, especially when there are a few replays of mine (there were, done on the old PC and on Final Burn), and especially when it comes from people that spend their (useless) time trolling on usenet (being older than 12 even!). I can't care less about the usual Italian style of "i accuse you of something and since i have my dumb buddies to back me up in my lies, i am right". You may actually disagree with such an attitude, but it would be nice to point it out.

Aside that, the "Italy vs the world" sounds cheesily nationalistic, eh. Oh, and please post in English, so people can understand.

EDIT - If this can be postponed to September, it would be nice. I am deeply entangled in academic and real life problems and time is very limited.

[Twiddle]

Out of all the posters on this forum, there are maybe 15 to 20 decent and dedicated players

I don't know about that. Perhaps there are just a lot of users like me here, who play their chosen games very extensively but still don't really bother participating in the high score threads?

I support this opinion. I... don't seem to have a mental drive to really play for high scores =\.

I post scores even if they're mediocre anyway -- usually as a reminder to work on the game eventually.

[Gemant]

This and the Neverland's post: in short, if people go around saying "zomg you post fake scores" and other dumb comments, something's horribly wrong, especially when there are a few replays of mine (there were, done on the old PC and on Final Burn), and especially when it comes from people that spend their (useless) time trolling on usenet (being older than 12 even!). I can't care less about the usual Italian style of "i accuse you of something and since i have my dumb buddies to back me up in my lies, i am right". You may actually disagree with such an attitude, but it would be nice to point it out.

Aside that, the "Italy vs the world" sounds cheesily nationalistic, eh. Oh, and please post in English, so people can understand.

EDIT - If this can be postponed to September, it would be nice. I am deeply entangled in academic and real life problems and time is very limited.

So you've decided not to participate? Well, as seen that you're a stranger in this kind of context, i still don't understand why you keep on trying to start a flame in this thread. I suggest you not to reply anymore here, unless you don't want to be publicly unmasked in front of you friends who don't know who you really are. And please if you have anything else to clarify against us, do it via pm or somewhere else we can read. This is not the place and the moment for the childish behaviour you're keeping.

It's impossible to do it in september, in that period we organize a memorial tournament for our lost friend Asw1968.