Official Raiden IV thread

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:23 pm

oh no, i bet this will be pap

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:38 pm

ill6 wrote:Type X??

Most likely...

lech · Post by **lech** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:58 pm

I'm suspicious of this announcement as well. III wasn't exactly a masterpiece, and a rush job sequel wouldn't do anybody any favors. I'd actually prefer a III DX with gameplay tweeks and new levels and that sort of stuff.

OT: III got ported to cellphones, and it's 2D, with recycled I + II graphics, WTF?

DoCoMo

Vodafone

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:06 pm

YES! This is going to be the bee's bollocks. However, I'm one of those people who loves Raiden III.

Some of you need to have an Iron Brew and smile. You never know - the ship might move like a buttered greyhound.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:24 pm

Bal-Sagoth wrote:Some of you need to have an Iron Brew and smile. You never know - the ship might move like a buttered greyhound.

Or it might move like a snail stuck in treacle.

I wait to see what they do with this one, if they decide on a system change or opt for more of the same. I'm one of those people who are on the fence about Raiden 3 - neither love nor loathe it - and hopefully they add something that really grabs the attention.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:49 pm

Icarus wrote:Watch the result be totally anticlimactic. ^_-

And I had hoped so much you'd be wrong with this prediction. Well, never mind.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:08 pm

I hope they put in the RF bonuses and game system in at least

I liked Raiden 3, but the scoring mechanics were kind of lacking

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:13 pm

Bal-Sagoth wrote:
Iron Brew

'Bru'

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:22 pm

@Bal-Sagoth:
It's "have a Coke and a smile" but close enough. ^_-

@Herr Schatten:
Were you expecting something else? ^_-
This version of Seibu Kaihatsu seems to have forgotten its roots and what made the past games so great. To think that Raiden Fighters or Viper Phase would appear in an updated form is somewhat wishful thinking.

In any case, lets milk the franchise. Fingers crossed that Raiden 4 will be somewhat more ass-kicking than the somewhat average Raiden 3.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:48 pm

This somewhat makes sense considering that the only people from Seibu that are in Moss now are Go Sato and the producer from Seibu (his name escapes me).

Wonder where the rest went.

lech · Post by **lech** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:06 pm

Twiddle wrote:This somewhat makes sense considering that the only people from Seibu that are in Moss now are Go Sato and the producer from Seibu (his name escapes me).

Wonder where the rest went.

Go Sato is with Moss? How reliable is that information? If true, he certainly didn't have anything to do with the BGM for III*, cause that shit sucked hard. If he does the soundtrack for IV, and it's along the lines of his Raiden Fighters stuff, that would be all I want.

(* I have not confirmed this, since I'm not motivated enough to actually beat III and read the credits. The BGM is however complete crap, and is a big factor in why the game is so weak.)

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:08 pm

Go Sato did the first stage, the final stage, and the insert demo for Raiden 3. (Stanzas from the Viper Phase 1 and Raiden Fighters soundtracks appear in those tracks, though slightly warped.) Those were the good tracks.

Two other composers did the rest, which mostly sucked.

lech · Post by **lech** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:24 pm

Twiddle wrote:Go Sato did the first stage, the final stage, and the insert demo for Raiden 3. (Stanzas from the Viper Phase 1 and Raiden Fighters soundtracks appear in those tracks, though slightly warped.) Those were the good tracks.

Two other composers did the rest, which mostly sucked.

Thanks for that explenation.

What are the chances of him coming up with some original, new stuff for IV? Cause that would make me a happy camper, who knows, I might even buy a PS2 for the home port...maybe.

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:09 pm

MovingTarget wrote:
Bal-Sagoth wrote:
Iron Brew
'Bru'

You tell him son!

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:39 pm

here's hoping it doesn't look like shit, i doubt it though. and what the fuck was that music?
looks like moss is to seibu what playmore is to snk

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:55 pm

I hate it when the board goes through these 'naysaying' phases.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm

Makes sense, Raiden III lasted forever in Arcadia's top 20. It placed 17th just last month.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:34 pm

Kaiser wrote:Yeah i played all original raidens (from 1 to 3 expect fighters) 3 Was too easy for me let's hope 4 will be 1 hour long!

So does Raiden III loop?

I'm excited about this news; let's face it-Type X will never look as good as Naomi, or whatever the earlier Raiden games ran on, but that doesn't mean Raiden III is awful or that this new game will suck. I can't wait to see some videos, hopefully next week!

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:45 am

I know it's "have a Coke"; I was being facetious and deliberately warping the phrase so as not to support that insipid, ersatz rubbish. I used 'Brew' in case Barr's delightful product isn't sold outside the UK, and so nobody would assume I sat on the keyboard.

Or it might move like a snail stuck in treacle.

Again, my comment was quite a deliberate pseudo-riposte to a general sentiment; we've more than covered our Raiden III-ship-whinging quota.

I didn't think I was being that subtle, folks...

I guess the internets are serious business.

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:54 am

Yes. Definitely Serious Business. ^_-

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:43 am

circuitface wrote: I hate it when the board goes through these 'naysaying' phases.

So do I. Once there are some videos (even pictures sometimes fail to do a game justice), then there's a little more room to judge it. I'm waiting for some loketest impressions.

sideshow · Post by **sideshow** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:58 am

I dont know about you peeps but this announcement is great news. Shmups do not come out very often nowadays so this is awesome. I'd be more pissed if it was called Raiden Final. Damn you R-Type series for ending!

MadSteelDarkness · Post by **MadSteelDarkness** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:49 am

I actually had a bit of fun with Raiden III. I mean, it's still vastly inferior to every other game in the series, but still...

*cautious optimism*

Post by **system11** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:47 am

Ditto - I even liked the music too.

Leeloo Minaï · Post by **Leeloo Minaï** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:07 am

sideshow wrote:I dont know about you peeps but this announcement is great news. Shmups do not come out very often nowadays so this is awesome. I'd be more pissed if it was called Raiden Final. Damn you R-Type series for ending!

I agree with you, i prefer to see some fresh news about the "Raiden" license than no more news at all ! There are so many old school series which seem or have been abandoned (Parodius, Salamander, Thunder Force...).

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:14 am

Right on, I was going to HEY tomorrow anyways. I'll let you guys know if it's the greatest game of all time or not. Fingers, uh, crossed.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:26 am

Leeloo Minaï wrote:
I agree with you, i prefer to see some fresh news about the "Raiden" license than no more news at all ! There are so many old school series which seem or have been abandoned (Parodius, Salamander, Thunder Force...).

The Thunderforce thing really makes me sad.

I'm also getting a little edgy about Darius and Rayforce as well...

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:38 am

cigsthecat wrote:Makes sense, Raiden III lasted forever in Arcadia's top 20. It placed 17th just last month.

Uh, really? Let me guess, it placed 11th-20th from its release?

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:16 am

Not good enough for you?

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:26 am

NTSC-J wrote:Right on, I was going to HEY tomorrow anyways. I'll let you guys know if it's the greatest game of all time or not. Fingers, uh, crossed.

Watch when there's noting new with this release.