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BIL wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:43 pm Sonic Wings and Strikers are basically [WW2 Stuff] or [WW3 Stuff] plus a stack of mecha/shoujo/gag manga. Those look like brazen ripoffs of. :wink:
So how about Tokio/Scramble Formation and Scramble Spirits
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I've only briefly seen Scramble Spirits, but Tokio's got a really cool style. WW1 Biplane vs futuristic tanks and jets in an 80s Tokyo metropolis. :cool: It's like Hishouzame x Xevious in contemporary Japan.

Its successor Xevious-esque, Master of Weapon, has some interesting connections. Keeps the meticulously-detailed cityscape, and high/low altitude scene transitions; tweaks the vaguely futuristic enemies into outright post-apocalyptic horrors. ("THE LIVING THINGS BEGIN TO CHANGE... AND MAN IS NO EXCEPTION" Image) Accordingly, the player biplane is swapped out for a more germane experimental fighter, or if you prefer, the young protagonist "YUKIWO" on an ROTJ-esque speeder bike.

In hindsight, Tokio feels like a (still intriguing) dress rehearsal, the metro backdrop its lynchpin. I get the feeling someone on the art team really liked their urban planning, haha.
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BIL wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:00 pm I've only briefly seen Scramble Spirits, but Tokio's got a really cool style. WW1 Biplane vs futuristic tanks and jets in an 80s Tokyo metropolis. :cool: It's like Hishouzame x Xevious in contemporary Japan.

Its successor Xevious-esque, Master of Weapon, has some interesting connections. Keeps the meticulously-detailed cityscape, and high/low altitude scene transitions; tweaks the vaguely futuristic enemies into outright post-apocalyptic horrors. ("THE LIVING THINGS BEGIN TO CHANGE... AND MAN IS NO EXCEPTION" Image) Accordingly, the player biplane is swapped out for a more germane experimental fighter, or if you prefer, the young protagonist "YUKIWO" on an ROTJ-esque speeder bike.

In hindsight, Tokio feels like a (still intriguing) dress rehearsal, the metro backdrop its lynchpin. I get the feeling someone on the art team really liked their urban planning, haha.
Just recently discovered some mobile military titles: 1945 Air Force, Sky Force and Sky Force reloaded. I wanna ask you and everyone is it worth trying out if i can't find any good arcade games
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I wouldn't worry about running out of games. For hardass army STGs, I'd just focus on Toaplan (Tiger & Shark duos, Daisenpu), SNK (Ikari, Guevara, Chopper One), Capcom (1941, 19XX, Area 88, Carrier Airwing), Seibu (Raiden Fighters trio), NMK (P-47, USAAF Mustang, Task Force Harrier, Thunder Dragon 2, P-47 Aces), and G-REV (Under Defeat), with related followups in Video System/Psikyo (Sonic Wings & Strikers trios), Raizing (Battle Garegga, Battle Bakraid, 1944), IREM (Kaitei Daisensou, Fire Barrel), Taito (Gun Frontier, Fighting Hawk, Ashura Blaster), Konami (A-JAX, Trigon), and Athena (Strike Gunner STG, Daioh). Lots of heavy metal to grapple with there.

There's bound to be more too, just in that golden 80s through 00s era. Or seek out the obscurities you mention. Either way, just play what you like, and consider posting some nice reviews / strategies / scores. Image
sumdumgoy wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:47 am I know it's stuck on the problematic Capcom Arcade Stadium,
but there's one military-styled shmup that gets me the most:

the criminally overlooked 19XX - The War Against Destiny.
Fuck yeah. Image Sublimely tempered martial style, somewhere between wistful and nails-hard, right down to that unforgettable title. Parachute tanks. <3 The BGM shift during the second boss fly-over is an especially treasured moment.
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BIL wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:06 pm I wouldn't worry about running out of games. For hardass army STGs, I'd just focus on Toaplan (Tigers & Sharks), SNK (Ikari, Guevara, Chopper One), Capcom (194X, Area 88, Carrier Airwing), Seibu (Raiden Fighters), NMK (Task Force Harrier, Thunder Dragon 2), and G-REV (Under Defeat), with related followups in Video System/Psikyo (Sonic Wings & Strikers), Raizing (Battle Garegga, 1941), IREM (Kaitei Daisensou, Fire Barrel), Taito (Gun Frontier, Fighting Hawk, Ashura Blaster), Konami (A-JAX, Trigon), and Athena (Strike Gunner STG, Daioh).

There's bound to be more too, just in that golden 80s through 00s era. Play what you like, consider posting some nice reviews / strategies / scores. Image
sumdumgoy wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:47 am I know it's stuck on the problematic Capcom Arcade Stadium,
but there's one military-styled shmup that gets me the most:

the criminally overlooked 19XX - The War Against Destiny.
Fuck yeah. Superbly-leavened style, somewhere between wistful and nails-hard. Parachute tanks. <3 The BGM hit during the second boss fly-over is an especially treasured moment.
Yeah sometimes I want to change a little bit too, i think mobile game is more of a supply-upgrade stuff rather than trying to get high score, Sky Force PSP version compared to mobile version is a great example
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Recently found Semicom Gaia the choice of earth and wanna ask BIL and everyone is it a true Sonic Wings copycat of a WWII military themed
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Recently found Heavy Weapon deluxe, a one-and-only WWII themed shmups made by Popcap. If BIL and everyone have played it leave a comments on what do you think about that game :D
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I don't think I've ever seen a Popcap game. They did Bejewelled I think? My grandma fiends on that one. She no-missed WW2 irl, too!

Here's a totes hardcore diehard WW2 STG I can get behind: :wink:
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BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:55 pm I don't think I've ever seen a Popcap game. They did Bejewelled I think? My grandma fiends on that one. She no-missed WW2 irl, too!
Gameplay here (by a Vietnamese people)
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Haha, wasn't expecting a ground-based player vehicle! I like those. You might find Tecmo's Silkworm interesting, it lets P2 play as a Jeep. (P1 is Heli) It looks like a straight military STG at first, but as was Tecmo's humorous wont, it gets weird fast. Plays like a Compile body-rammer, with a style almost like Kyuukyoku Tiger vs Mr. Heli.
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BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:40 pm Haha, wasn't expecting a ground-based player vehicle! I like those. You might find Tecmo's Silkworm interesting, it lets P2 play as a Jeep. (P1 is Heli) It looks like a straight military STG at first, but as was Tecmo's humorous wont, it gets weird fast. Plays like a Compile body-rammer, with a style almost like Kyuukyoku Tiger vs Mr. Heli.
Because it release the same year as Under Defeat, and Silkworm is in Toaplan era. Heavy Weapon deluxe add many special aspect such as Robot-Mecha (stage 9/18), a monkey boss (stage 5/14), Aliens (stage 6/15) (a satellite enemy is also aliens as well), and Worm-Mecha (stage 8/17) and a little Daioh head statue (stage 7/16) as well. Thinking about Strikers 1945 series yes?
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Amongst heli STGs, Gyrodine (1984) seems relatively little-mentioned here. Predates Toaplan's Tiger Heli, and even has Under Defeat's tilt mechanic. Has tanks, but they don't seem to behave like Toaplan's iconic one shot / one kill snipers. More like strafing blanket-fire, haha.

Published by Taito, just like Tiger Heli; apparently it was deveoped by Human, famous for Fire Pro. (and my dear personal favourite The Firemen; seriously hardcore topdown seek/destroy, not to be slept on!)

No idea if Gyrodine's any good. Looks alright enough. But just for historical purposes, I'd love to get an ACA port to go with ShotTriggers Tiger Heli.

For even earlier in iconic heli STGs, there's also Scramble's sequel Super Cobra (1982), though it's a very different sort of game. (hardcore terrain-based hori)

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BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:12 pm No idea if Gyrodine's any good. Looks alright enough. But just for historical purposes, I'd love to get an ACA port to go with ShotTriggers Tiger Heli.
Almost forgot, not only it release the same year as Under Defeat but also the same year as the infamous Raiden 3 as well 😉
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BIL if you had a chance try it out, it is the only Popcap shmups!
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Recently found an obscure title called Air Attack 2, a strikers 1945 with Task Force Harrier mechanics and a 3d graphics. I wanna know your opinion about this game BIL and everyone
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BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:55 pm I don't think I've ever seen a Popcap game.
So how about Air Attack 2, gameplay mentioned above
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Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:49 am
BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:55 pm I don't think I've ever seen a Popcap game.
So how about Air Attack 2, gameplay mentioned above
Surprised at the quality of its enemy models. I don't really dig touchscreen movement, and although I've a lot of love for Raystorm-style angled topdown, I'll always prefer unambiguous topdown 2D. But heavy artillery like this is my jam. :cool: Makes me imagine a new Raiden Fighters by MOSS ala Raiden IV and Caladrius.
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BIL wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:46 am
Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:49 am
BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:55 pm I don't think I've ever seen a Popcap game.
So how about Air Attack 2, gameplay mentioned above
Surprised at the quality of its enemy models. I don't really dig touchscreen movement, and although I've a lot of love for Raystorm-style angled topdown, I'll always prefer unambiguous topdown 2D. But heavy artillery like this is my jam. :cool: Makes me imagine a new Raiden Fighters by MOSS ala Raiden IV and Caladrius.
I think this is the reason why it was recommended by Google when it comes to World War theme 8)
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BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:12 pm Amongst heli STGs, Gyrodine (1984) seems relatively little-mentioned here. Predates Toaplan's Tiger Heli, and even has Under Defeat's tilt mechanic. Has tanks, but they don't seem to behave like Toaplan's iconic one shot / one kill snipers. More like strafing blanket-fire, haha.
Just return for a while, and recently found Plus Alpha. I wanna ask BIL and everyone is this the one and only Jaleco shmups uses a military themed
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Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:01 pm
BIL wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:12 pm Amongst heli STGs, Gyrodine (1984) seems relatively little-mentioned here. Predates Toaplan's Tiger Heli, and even has Under Defeat's tilt mechanic. Has tanks, but they don't seem to behave like Toaplan's iconic one shot / one kill snipers. More like strafing blanket-fire, haha.
Just return for a while, and recently found Plus Alpha. I wanna ask BIL and everyone is this the one and only Jaleco shmups uses a military themed
Yeah, AFAIK, all their other STGs are in the realm of hard-edged scifi. Exerion, Formation Z, EDF, Cybattler... those are the ones I can recall offhand. (ignoring their own compilation STG Game Tengoku, and ofc contracted works like NMK's P47/Aces)

I guess at a stretch, there's the borderliner Ikari no Yousai trilogy. :wink: (aka Fortified Zone 1 & 2 + Operation Logic Bomb)
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Plus Alpha is an interesting example of a military-style cute 'em up. It's been forever since I last played it, but I seem to recall it had a ton of Toa/Seibu/Raizing-calibre heavy metal. That subgenre usually tends towards fantasy (Kiki Kaikai, Cotton, Magical Chase) or at most science-fiction. (Parodius, Star Parodier, CD Denjin)
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BIL wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:51 pm Plus Alpha is an interesting example of a military-style cute 'em up. It's been forever since I last played it, but I seem to recall it had a ton of Toa/Seibu/Raizing-calibre heavy metal. That subgenre usually tends towards fantasy (Kiki Kaikai, Cotton, Magical Chase) or at most science-fiction. (Parodius, Star Parodier, CD Denjin)
First time came here not to ask to reviewing new game. I just recently found Twin Tiger Shark, a compliation of all Toaplan games using predominant military themed. Since i love that game too much, how can i played it? Android version keeps crashing, PC version required Java for playing it, is there anyway I can played it, BIL and everyone? Or is there anyway I can emulate that game natively
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Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:03 pm
BIL wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:51 pm Plus Alpha is an interesting example of a military-style cute 'em up. It's been forever since I last played it, but I seem to recall it had a ton of Toa/Seibu/Raizing-calibre heavy metal. That subgenre usually tends towards fantasy (Kiki Kaikai, Cotton, Magical Chase) or at most science-fiction. (Parodius, Star Parodier, CD Denjin)
First time came here not to ask to reviewing new game. I just recently found Twin Tiger Shark, a compliation of all Toaplan games using predominant military themed. Since i love that game too much, how can i played it? Android version keeps crashing, PC version required Java for playing it, is there anyway I can played it, BIL and everyone? Or is there anyway I can emulate that game natively
If you bought the Xbox 360 indie game of Twin Tiger Shark back in 2015, it's playable on that particular gaming console. I think it's on the Android powered Ouya gaming console as well and is "free of charge".

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PC Engine Fan X! wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:27 am
Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:03 pm
BIL wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:51 pm Plus Alpha is an interesting example of a military-style cute 'em up. It's been forever since I last played it, but I seem to recall it had a ton of Toa/Seibu/Raizing-calibre heavy metal. That subgenre usually tends towards fantasy (Kiki Kaikai, Cotton, Magical Chase) or at most science-fiction. (Parodius, Star Parodier, CD Denjin)
First time came here not to ask to reviewing new game. I just recently found Twin Tiger Shark, a compliation of all Toaplan games using predominant military themed. Since i love that game too much, how can i played it? Android version keeps crashing, PC version required Java for playing it, is there anyway I can played it, BIL and everyone? Or is there anyway I can emulate that game natively
If you bought the Xbox 360 indie game of Twin Tiger Shark back in 2015, it's playable on that particular gaming console. I think it's on the Android powered Ouya gaming console as well and is "free of charge".

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this is like a present for me during the Vietnamese Reunion in 30/4. 1942 Joint Strike finally playable on Android and will be in my recommendation list for this category

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despite the negative reviews, i'll still recommend this game since is in Popcap era (2008) and the first on the list featuring 3D beside Under Defeat. What about your opinion, BIL and everyone ??
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And hey, Sonic Wings Reunion is coming out next month, and Mikado Game Center in Japan had let their players played it early. This will also be my go-to game on this category as well

P/S: Damn there is a lot of late 2000's good military themed shmups covered in 3D graphics this month i've just discovered. Anything else that i've been missing, BIL and everyone??
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recently return to this thread after a long while enjoying so much the 1942 Joint Strike (now Sonic Wings Reunion), but still wanna ask BIL and everyone a questions: It is Ibara (2005) any military or steampunk of some sort, because i just found that game recently
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