military based shmups?
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military based shmups?
Anyone here have a list of military themed shmups? I mean, games that allows you to control military planes (regardless of period, ie: WW2 planes, or modern jet planes), destroying enemies whose forces consisted of HUEG aircraft bombers, battleships, and the likes?
I could only think of the Strikers 1945 series, Raiden Fighters series, Aero Fighters and the 194x series. Any else that I've missed out?
I could only think of the Strikers 1945 series, Raiden Fighters series, Aero Fighters and the 194x series. Any else that I've missed out?
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Giga Wing series
Sky Shark, Tiger-Heli, Twin Cobra, Twin Eagle (all Taito, NES; Twin Cobra also on MegaDrive)
Captain Skyhawk (better than nothing... i think...?)
Vapor Trail (MegaDrive)
CrossFire (Megadrive; unique blend of air/ground combat, primarily air combat tho)
Sky Shark, Tiger-Heli, Twin Cobra, Twin Eagle (all Taito, NES; Twin Cobra also on MegaDrive)
Captain Skyhawk (better than nothing... i think...?)
Vapor Trail (MegaDrive)
CrossFire (Megadrive; unique blend of air/ground combat, primarily air combat tho)

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Re: military based shmups?
My opinion (only to merged with you guys)
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And yes, Bakraid and 1944 works under Uemura-san, the Hishouzame developer as well
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And yes, Bakraid and 1944 works under Uemura-san, the Hishouzame developer as well
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Beautiful 19 year bump.
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Damn, this thread is old enough to order alcohol at a bar
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Ah, i figured it out, since you mentioned Giga Wing series, i must include Sengeki Strikers too. While Giga Wing (either Mars Matrix) more of a Dodonpachi bullet hell stuff, Sengeki Striker offer a lot more Raiden/Toaplan like gameplay style
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Re: military based shmups?
Ignoring le bump, by the loose standards of the OP it seems everything with planes would be military based. Whether it's the US Air Force or the Gradius Defense Force, any aircraft with the firepower to obliterate hundreds of enemies probably belongs to some military.
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Some games offer the player non-aircraft (e.g. flying people, witches on broomsticks, flying creatures with optional riders) or private aircraft (e.g. a professional pilot on the run in Tyrian or homemade giant robots in Zeroigar), but the opposition could still be a sufficiently military organized armed force.Mortificator wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:38 am Ignoring le bump, by the loose standards of the OP it seems everything with planes would be military based. Whether it's the US Air Force or the Gradius Defense Force, any aircraft with the firepower to obliterate hundreds of enemies probably belongs to some military.
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Trizeal always seemed military-ish to me. One of my favorites.
Strikers 1945 Part II, and the original 1942 are two other favorite tried-and-true military themed classics.
Strikers 1945 Part II, and the original 1942 are two other favorite tried-and-true military themed classics.
Re: military based shmups?
Well that ain't right.
Got Gunsmoke, and Armed Police Batrider, and Cosmo Police Galivan in the Law Enforcement shmup category.
There's the insect shmup category, Centipede etc.
The rogue-robot/motherbrain shmup category.
The fantasy/magic shmup category.
what else?
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Recently, scientists have identified the Three Great Pillars Of Shump. 
Military Shump.
Emphasis on 20th century battlefield. Hishouzame, Task Force Harrier. Deflicted by STEAMPUNK. (Battle Garegga)
Space Shump.
Emphasis on Buck Rogers. Tatsujin, Rayforce. Deflicted by GIGER. (X-Multiply)
Fantasy Shump.
Emphasis on the uncanny. Phelios, Cotton. Deflicted by ANIME. (Gynoug)
You can identify all kinds of shumps with greater or lesser applications of the above!
Raiden = Military Space shump. (Flying Shark vs Asteroids)
Metal Black = Space Fantasy shump. (Flying Submarine vs Space Godfish)
ESPRade = Military Fantasy shump. (Flying Transvestite vs Tank Convoy)
What happens when you recommend your History Channel-loving bro Strikers 1945, and he calls you an asshole, because it gets weird at the end? Buddy should've known what was up with all the crazy transforming shit! But so should you. That there is a MILITARY SPACE FANTASY shump!
Now, DEFLICTION is always a concern. You might recommend Raiden III x Mikado to your Military Space Shump bro, and later that night he phones you up and calls you an asshole, because when he went online to order it, his mom thought it was one of them there crazy hentais and has taken away his shumps.
In these cases, they inevitably deserve it, so don't worry one way or another.
But you should've known better! Knowing Your Shumps is why you signed up. Do better next time, that's the spirit. 

Military Shump.

Space Shump.

Fantasy Shump.

You can identify all kinds of shumps with greater or lesser applications of the above!
Raiden = Military Space shump. (Flying Shark vs Asteroids)
Metal Black = Space Fantasy shump. (Flying Submarine vs Space Godfish)
ESPRade = Military Fantasy shump. (Flying Transvestite vs Tank Convoy)
What happens when you recommend your History Channel-loving bro Strikers 1945, and he calls you an asshole, because it gets weird at the end? Buddy should've known what was up with all the crazy transforming shit! But so should you. That there is a MILITARY SPACE FANTASY shump!
Now, DEFLICTION is always a concern. You might recommend Raiden III x Mikado to your Military Space Shump bro, and later that night he phones you up and calls you an asshole, because when he went online to order it, his mom thought it was one of them there crazy hentais and has taken away his shumps.
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Re: military based shmups?
And then there is Zunzunkyou no Yabou.You can identify all kinds of shumps with greater or lesser applications of the above!
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That's a hentai defliction. Or so I hear *cough* (■`w´■)

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Let's see, if I understand the reasoning framework correctly...
Hellsinker = Military Space Fantasy shump + Auteur affix. (Flying Squad vs High Concept)
However *raises hand* Professor, what's a defliction? I think my grandma had one of those...
Hellsinker = Military Space Fantasy shump + Auteur affix. (Flying Squad vs High Concept)
However *raises hand* Professor, what's a defliction? I think my grandma had one of those...
Re: military based shmups?
Ketsui is very military
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Not at all! You skilfully identified the Rough Justice Shump subgenre, via Gun.Smoke and Batwider! In fact, the Military Shump can be alternatively called the Martial Shump. Man is born to carnage, and only force of arms can set his world right! Challenging the stars and reckoning the supernatural can wait until the despots and bandits and megacorps are brought to heel!
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Good! That is a clear case of the GIBSON Defliction. Neuromantic Metempsychotic Karma Shooting Game!
Hmm, well, I have seen the mode of cultural exchange observed thus (■`w´■)However *raises hand* Professor, what's a defliction? I think my grandma had one of those...
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Only this can explain the amount of "tentacle/serpentine" elements presents in a lot of their games, or the unquantifiable amount of fury in a couple of moments in GunForce 2.
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For me , military would be a less fantasy based and more grounded - with perhaps some steampunk styling - Strikers 1945, Raiden, Under Defeat and Sonic Wings would be 3 examples. Though even something like Raiden and Strikers starts getting OOT when they go into space. Some of the older Megadrive Toaplan games would fit the bill too. Gun Frontier is another.
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Gun Frontier and Steel Empire sport outstandingly well-woven aesthetics. (the former a cheeky lift of Matsumoto's classic manga; forgivable for its sheer commitment to the bit, imo) Heavy metal tonnage on par with any army STG, fired by wild Dieselpunk and buoyed by space-age Future Past.
Garegga feels like a distillation of Senba's game into hyperreal mode. Keeps things planetside, unleashing wild creations like murdercarnivalier Mad Ball, arachnophobe frightener Junky Monkey, and the bestially vital Glow Squid; a machine whose terminal frenzy might dislocate the very jaws of death, 1CC snatched.
I'd put them on a sliding scale from Raiden Fighters (biblically massive machines that walk the "regenerating spider arms" and "thrashing decapitated cockpits" line), to Garegga (and its Cyberpunk counterpart Batwider)'s metal beast menagerie, to the fantastical Gun Frontier and Steel Empire, full of whimsical-yet-deadly martial Vernesques.
Garegga feels like a distillation of Senba's game into hyperreal mode. Keeps things planetside, unleashing wild creations like murdercarnivalier Mad Ball, arachnophobe frightener Junky Monkey, and the bestially vital Glow Squid; a machine whose terminal frenzy might dislocate the very jaws of death, 1CC snatched.
I'd put them on a sliding scale from Raiden Fighters (biblically massive machines that walk the "regenerating spider arms" and "thrashing decapitated cockpits" line), to Garegga (and its Cyberpunk counterpart Batwider)'s metal beast menagerie, to the fantastical Gun Frontier and Steel Empire, full of whimsical-yet-deadly martial Vernesques.
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BIL wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:00 pm Gun Frontier and Steel Empire sport outstandingly well-woven aesthetics. (the former a cheeky lift of Matsumoto's classic manga; forgivable for its sheer commitment to the bit, imo) Heavy metal tonnage on par with any purebred army STG, driven by wild Dieselpunk aesthetics, buoyed by space age Future Pasts.
The term of "Dieselpunk" sounds it'd be right up the same alley as the sub-genre of "Steampunk," right BIL?
And Raizing/8ing's "Armed Police Batrider" arcade stg would be listed as within the sub-genre of "Cyberpunk" with it's stylized futuristic vibe/setting indeed.
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Indeed PCEFX! A grungy dark echo, or maybe just the inevitable result of man's lust for more horsepower!PC Engine Fan X! wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:11 amThe term of "Dieselpunk" sounds it'd be right up the same alley as the sub-genre of "Steampunk," right BIL?

Most definitely! I'd also suggest Gallop, another futuristic Rough Justicer. And authentic ex-IREM Last Resort, which wears its dystopic Akira influences proudly. Gunnail's not quite as unified as all these, but it's got enough glimpses of bleak technopolis to qualify, imo. Particularly fond of the second High Speed stage's background, an affectingly hard-packed cityscape, that really pops opposite the penultimate night metropolis.And Raizing/8ing's "Armed Police Batrider" arcade stg would be listed as within the sub-genre of "Cyberpunk" with it's stylized futuristic vibe/setting indeed.

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ghost pilots, from the creator of METAL SLUG!!!!