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Re: Raiden II

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Incredible work, good to see you finally finish this.
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Thank you for the compliments! I will keep trying to improve my skills. :)
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Re: Raiden II

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Nice!

Do you use the toothpaste laser a lot or does vulcan + auto work better in most situations?
Hope the replay gets uploaded as a video; I'm having trouble finding the version of MAME you used.
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I plan to upload a video sometime, but you can find mameuifx v0.168 here. Personally, I use the vulcan gun as my main weapon and I use the freeze pop laser or the toothpaste laser as the situation demands. On stage 7 I default to the toothpaste laser due to the thick space debris. I use nuclear missiles for extra power on the first two stages and homing missiles after that.

edit: Video uploaded.
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Arcade Board( normal difficulty, us set 1)
maximo-594,790-1-3-1p-on-mameuifx 0.168

Losing all lives at stage 3 ( and having nothing for the boss) sure is a great way to start this off! This definitely looks like a long term project.......
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Jaimers - 4,676,370 - 2-4 - 1P - Yes - MAME Plus 0.167 inp

Got super lucky since I got a full power item from a death, making it actually possible to recover.
Not sure if I want to keep playing this. Deaths are usually from stupid bullshit and 1-1 and 1-2 get really boring really fast.
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Re: Raiden II

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PC Major
Vinh Loc - 4454740 - 2-4 - 1P - Yes - PC
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I'm the only Vietnamese to 1cc this
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Congrats Lộc on the clear! I posted your intro below. :)
Nguyen Vinh Loc wrote:Thanks to your suggestions, I would introduce myself. I am Lộc from Vietnam, you can call me Loc. I am interested in shmups like Raiden (all series), Hishozame, Fire Shark,... anything like that except Cave games.
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Tks Dave_K, i would have some questions still asking you :
- Which versions of Raiden 2 is better ? Arcade or Playstation?
- Should i go for Colonel ? Or getting to another game? Because i sucked at Colonel and if it's another game, base on my intro, what game will be next
To let you know one more thing, i am only 19 years old
Dave_K. wrote:Congrats Lộc on the clear! I posted your intro below. :)
Nguyen Vinh Loc wrote:Thanks to your suggestions, I would introduce myself. I am Lộc from Vietnam, you can call me Loc. I am interested in shmups like Raiden (all series), Hishozame, Fire Shark,... anything like that except Cave games.
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The arcade and port versions are different games, kinda. The port version is less miserable as a game, but it's still Raiden II and it's still pretty miserable.
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It is a Hi-score of my internet friend.

VERSION -ARC,HARD
大丈夫~萌大奶- 2179590(or 3179590[add bonus]) - all(1-8) - 1P -autofire- no miss ,MAME,

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Arcade ( Regular board, US Set 1) - Normal
maximo - 4,067,150 - 2-4 - 1P - Yes - ARCADE 0.239 Replay

Spent some time earlier this year getting a basic clear, and then came back to this recently and retooled some of my routes for additional score.
This game is a lot of fun when fully powered up, but it can get frustrating to lose a credit via a stage 5-7 death, and then not getting the weapon items/ random P item needed for that section, and get stuck in reset hell on the first few stages.

One neat tidbit ( that trap15 mentioned on a discord server) is that you can apparently play on slightly lower rank if you play out 3 credits & then start a 4th credit ( which apparently also works the same in DX). The recent ACA ports also had a twitter thread where TZW-ART mentioned that in Raiden 1, you can get the lowest starting rank by starting a credit on the 1st stage 7 demo after booting the machine.
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Congrats, updated.

Oh no, we really got attract demo rank nonsense. Well, maybe it'll help. Wonder if it still works in the PS/PC version.
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Even with attract demo rank game still ain't free, I only noticed that in stage 3 bullets are slightly slower and those fast jets in st4 won't fire from behind if you let them pass. Rest are the same.
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Yeah, it sounds more like the devs wanted to put something like 2P side in the first game. I will totally allow it by the way.
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At this point I'm just jealous of the people who have the willpower to handle these fucking games. Congrats!
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Came here after 5 years hiatus during Covid season, i am currently redeemed myself since the old video is lost :(((( Will probably update the score soon

P/s: getting the MAME version to work on the new Mame4droid 2024 was my pride, willing to increase the difficulty and trying to 1cc Mame version
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Everyone, why is always the fact that i'm playing this game really well with savestate and lower difficulty on the PC version but when it comes to the arcade version with MAME4Droid 2024, i always struggle on a full 1CC runs 🤔
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maximo310 wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:39 am Image

Arcade ( Regular board, US Set 1) - Normal
maximo - 4,067,150 - 2-4 - 1P - Yes - ARCADE 0.239 Replay

Spent some time earlier this year getting a basic clear, and then came back to this recently and retooled some of my routes for additional score.
This game is a lot of fun when fully powered up, but it can get frustrating to lose a credit via a stage 5-7 death, and then not getting the weapon items/ random P item needed for that section, and get stuck in reset hell on the first few stages.

One neat tidbit ( that trap15 mentioned on a discord server) is that you can apparently play on slightly lower rank if you play out 3 credits & then start a 4th credit ( which apparently also works the same in DX). The recent ACA ports also had a twitter thread where TZW-ART mentioned that in Raiden 1, you can get the lowest starting rank by starting a credit on the 1st stage 7 demo after booting the machine.
Really? No wonder why bullet are fast, nearly as fast as Fire Shark
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Tbh the advantage gain is not that big in II, except you might feel st3/4 is little easier because the rank are still lower than usual. And I have yet to feel the differences with the credit strat and without in DX, everything felt the same for me.
Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:25 pm Everyone, why is always the fact that i'm playing this game really well with savestate and lower difficulty on the PC version but when it comes to the arcade version with MAME4Droid 2024, i always struggle on a full 1CC runs 🤔
Because the game is that hard tbh. It took me almost 2 months of nearly daily play to get the 1CC and it's probably the hardest shmup I've ever clear yet, with playtime clocking for almost 80 hours. How about try the game on PC version through MAME next time? Unless you're doing really well with touch controls, the game requires some precise movemets from st3 onwards and I'd imagine it may be quite difficult to pull such moves with touch controls especially with emulated touch D-Pad.
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copy-paster wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:07 pm Tbh the advantage gain is not that big in II, except you might feel st3/4 is little easier because the rank are still lower than usual. And I have yet to feel the differences with the credit strat and without in DX, everything felt the same for me.
Nguyen VinhLOC wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:25 pm Everyone, why is always the fact that i'm playing this game really well with savestate and lower difficulty on the PC version but when it comes to the arcade version with MAME4Droid 2024, i always struggle on a full 1CC runs 🤔
Because the game is that hard tbh. It took me almost 2 months of nearly daily play to get the 1CC and it's probably the hardest shmup I've ever clear yet, with playtime clocking for almost 80 hours. How about try the game on PC version through MAME next time? Unless you're doing really well with touch controls, the game requires some precise movemets from st3 onwards and I'd imagine it may be quite difficult to pull such moves with touch controls especially with emulated touch D-Pad.
By the way, what do you think if Dogyuun Magic mashed up with All or Nothing (stage 3 of this game)
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Come back here after nearly half a years, i wanna ask everyone in this thread: I recently re-do the Raiden II major on PC version, but i wanna turn off the music so that i can play the Mikado song (like in video below). I've tried to pull down the BGM bar in the option, but the music didn't seems to turn off. Is there anyway to turn off the in-game music on the pc ver?

Note: This is not me playing, i edited this from torm223300 replays, and due to my Youtube channel is being taken down after three strike, i have to upload on my Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l4i9gT ... NCJV1/view
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